Developing nude photos?
Renegade
Sorry if this question is redundant, I don't usually frequent this group!
I am going to be taking some 35mm nudes of a female friend, and I would
be interested in suggestions concerning the best way to get them developed.
I am (we are) concerned about the pictures being passed around the local
high school by the kid that works at the foto-hut, or getting dirty looks
and eternal bad service from the old lady that owns the drugstore. Does
this stuff happen? Are there labs that get upset about nudes? Thanks in
advance for your advice!
Oleg Volokhonsky
either--unless you pick a _great_ pro lab. Get negs--if color--developed and
print them yourself. Here even libraries have B&W darkrooms. Community colleges
are a good bet, too.
Renegade writes
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8^)-->Sorry if this question is redundant, I don't usually frequent this group!
8^)-->
8^)-->I am going to be taking some 35mm nudes of a female friend, and I would
8^)-->be interested in suggestions concerning the best way to get them
developed.
8^)-->I am (we are) concerned about the pictures being passed around the local
8^)-->high school by the kid that works at the foto-hut, or getting dirty looks
8^)-->and eternal bad service from the old lady that owns the drugstore. Does
8^)-->this stuff happen? Are there labs that get upset about nudes? Thanks in
8^)-->advance for your advice!
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It happens ALL the time. Don't take anything you don't want to share with the
world to any one hour, drug, or discount chain store. Take them to a local
pro store and talk to them first. Tell them what you have and what their policy
is before you let them out of your hands.
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E. Michael Smith
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>In article <CrI4I...@crdnns.crd.ge.com>, 13...@ppsdev1.sch.ge.com (Renegade) writes:
>|> I am going to be taking some 35mm nudes of a female friend, and I would
>|> be interested in suggestions concerning the best way to get them developed.
>|> I am (we are) concerned about the pictures being passed around the local
>|> high school by the kid that works at the foto-hut, or getting dirty looks
>|> and eternal bad service from the old lady that owns the drugstore.
> It happens ALL the time. Don't take anything you don't want to share with the
>world to any one hour, drug, or discount chain store. Take them to a local
>pro store and talk to them first. Tell them what you have and what their policy
>is before you let them out of your hands.
You also have to worry if you take nude pictures of your kids. Unless
they are clearly toddlers in a swimming pool in the yard (i.e. a trite
traditional sterotype ) you may find yourself talking to the local police
about being a "Child Pornographer". I've heard of at least one 'bust'
where the guy had his pictures developed at a 'one hour lab' and either
the operator or another customer called the cops.
From the 'I would think it paranoid if I had not seen it my self'
department: There are many women (and some men too) who have a
Major League political agenda about female nudes in pictures.
You may find that one of them works in the lab you use. (It may
be a religious hot button or it may be a libbers hot button. Doesn't
matter much.) If one of them sees a picture that is:
1) Sexual in nature, 2) That is IN THEIR OPINION offensive, and
that 3) Is unwelcome (again, in their opininon); they can then cause
one hell of a fuss including damages up to about $200,000. This can
include personal liability for the manager (i.e. loss of their home...)
This is a result of Federal (and for California additional State)
sexual harrassement laws. Realize that it is a legal mandate that
EVERYONE have a workplace free of sexual harrasment. Viewing
any nude picture would be an easy case to make... It would easily
fit under the 'generally harrassing environment' part of the law.
How do I know this? I've been a manager for about 9 years and been
to 'Managers and the Law' class about every 3 years... The S.F.
Circuit court just decided that the standard would be broadened
from a 'Reasonable Man' standard to a 'Reasonable Woman' standard
for many cases. (Never mind that 'man' in the law is non-gender,
the SF court had a political point to make and wanted to get in all
the papers...) In practice this means "If someone says they were
offended and it it not patently bogus, then they were offended".
Patently bogus means things like "I'm offended because I can see
her ankle!" is not in keeping with the fact that we see ankles
all day in real life.
BTW, on at least one occasion I had to make just such a call...
A complaint came to me that an employee had 'offensive pictures'
on the wall. Investigation showed some rather extraordinarily
good photography (B&W) of the fellows wife with a loose fitting
sheet like drape, belted at the waist. Yes, one could easily
speculate that she was not wearing a bra under the drape. Yes,
she was good looking and had 'come hither eyes'. But damn it,
these were as close to 'fine art prints' as an amature could ever
hope to make. THERE WAS NO NUDITY. Arms, legs to about mid thigh
or less. Chest from breast top up (i.e no breast showing, just shoulders
and neckline).
I played 'bet your home equity and the kids college fund' and
decided that there was no offensive material. At that time I
had to decide if I thought I could show SOMEONE ELSE had not
been offended... Not easy to do... If the complaintant
had wanted to press a case, I'd have been forced to fold (either
that or just sign over the house to them on the spot ... since it
is fairly common for companies to find a way to re-org middle managers
out of a job if they do something that puts the company at risk
when it could have been avoided. Principle? WHAT principle?)
The fellow who took the pictures would likely have had to sink a
lot of money into lawyer fees, win or loose. Yes, that is the law.
Lucky for me, no case was pressed. Many (most?) managers will not
do that. There is no percentage in it... for the company or for
the manager. Easier to just roll over and let the poor sap take the
hit. (I THINK this was a bogus complaint, but very few folks will
play 'bet the home' on that kind of belief.)
What does this have to do with your lab? Your lab manager may be
required to not print your pictures, to confiscate them (either as
evidence or as 'protection' for their employees), destroy them (to
protect the company from charges that it was not protecting it's
employees from a 'generally harrassing environment' by showing that
it took immediate and strong action to protect them and discourage
such abuse of employees by the customers), etc.
This is not very likely to happen, but it could happen, and would
be in keeping with a reasonable interpretation of the law.
I'd suggest that you do exactly as the other fellow suggested.
Find a PROFESSIONAL lab that you ADVISE IN ADVANCE that you
have nude images and ask their POLICY. That should keep it
legally clean AND give you some assurance that you will not
get a whacko hitting the roof with your negatives in hand.
One other suggestion: Learn to do you own developing and printing.
It isn't that hard, you get better results, and no one but you
decides what is ok or not ok to make into pictures. I've done
B&W and it is near trivial. I've done E6 and it wasn't very
hard either (get a good constant temperature bath! or accept
minor color variation from batch to batch...). I've not yet
gotten color prints to work out with decent color without a
gazzillion print trials, but I'm just starting on them...)
(BTW, I've not done any nudes of anyone over 3 years old, and all
of them were 'stereotypical' my kids in the plastic pool with
the hose snapshots... I just get burned thinking about the erosion
of the RIGHT to make nudes, should I so desire to make them...
I'm most interested in 'textures' and take lots of close ups of
leaves, bricks, rocks, cloth... )
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William Bell
>From: 13...@ppsdev1.sch.ge.com (Renegade)
>Subject: Developing nude photos?
>Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:56:38 GMT
Look in your Yellow Pages under Photographic Labs, pick one that mentions
custom or hand work, talk to THE OWNER, and inform him/her of the subject
matter. If all is okay, when you drop off the film have the ticket marked "
Mature subject matter - destroy all reprints. May not be copied without
photographers expressed permission" That way you shouldn't have
unauthorized copies floating around and nobody will be surprized by the
subject matter. NEVER take them to a mass market drop point. There have
been many reported instances of unauthorized copies floating around.
Bill
Oleg Volokhonsky
8^)-->Look in your Yellow Pages under Photographic Labs, pick one that mentions
8^)-->custom or hand work, talk to THE OWNER, and inform him/her of the subject
8^)-->matter. If all is okay, when you drop off the film have the ticket
marked "
8^)-->Mature subject matter - destroy all reprints. May not be copied without
8^)-->photographers expressed permission" That way you shouldn't have
8^)-->unauthorized copies floating around and nobody will be surprized by the
8^)-->subject matter. NEVER take them to a mass market drop point. There have
8^)-->been many reported instances of unauthorized copies floating around.
8^)-->
8^)-->Bill
THEN you SUE the pants off the lab owners for copyright infringement:^)
George Waddell
: Sorry if this question is redundant, I don't usually frequent this group!
I would recommend that you find a professional photo lab in the yellow
pages and call and ask them if they have a problem with these type of
pictures. By professional I mean a lab that does all processing
in-house.
I do not recommend taking them to a camera store or to a one-hour
photo shop. I used to work in a camera store. When things get slow
everyone starts going through people's processing. The operators
at the photo labs also have interesting photo albums of stuff that
they have copied over the years. It does happen!!
If you still feel uneasy then send it to a photo lab that specializes
in this genre. There are several in the back of Shutterbug magazine.
I recommend DCC Photo in Reading, PA 1-800-624-2800. Call and ask
for an information package.
Hope this helps.
z_mcda...@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
i recall reading once in 'news of the weird' about a similar situation at an
eckard christmas party... seems one of the district guys was there and some of
the photo guys were passing around a book full of nudes that they'd
reprinted... the manager found some figure study or nude stuff he had taken of
his wife in the book... the next day, the entire region's photo staff was fired
without notice...
i fully agree that your best bet would be to go to a local, fully independent,
custom lab... i stress here, fully independent of all corporate ties...
there are plenty of labs such as this in every metropolitan area, and they
usually do excellent work... (such as holland photo, holleman photo in the
austin, texas area)
you will not be able to prevent reprints from getting out unless you do it all
yourself or never let the neg.'s out of your sight... if you follow the above
suggestions, you will have recourse should you ever find reprints...
best of luck...
later...
cody
Charles Bremner
: Bill
While Bill's suggestion is very good I'm not sure it is necessary. First
most "mass market" places place your film in the machine and when your
24 prints are done they ccut the roll and these are yours.. In fact if
you do slides there is a very good chance that absolutely no one will see
your slides. The process is so automated that no one even has the
ability to look much less make prints. If anything I would think
that the large lab would be unable to take the time to make copies
because they do not have the time to spend looking over each roll that
enters the lab. Also I think it's the small
custom lab that has the time due to the low volume to make copies and
duplicates. The lab that does thousands of rolls a day doesn't have the
time to copy anything. I've taken rolls of film to various labs and
without exception there have no problems. The worst problem I can see is
that they tell you they don't want your business again. Yes there are
looks but I'm not sure that they aren't my imagination. The lab
absolutely must give you your film back.
Thats about all I can say on the matter..again I've done it plenty
of times and have had not problems.
Chuck
Bruce Ritchie
>be interested in suggestions concerning the best way to get them developed.
>I am (we are) concerned about the pictures being passed around the local
>high school by the kid that works at the foto-hut, or getting dirty looks
>and eternal bad service from the old lady that owns the drugstore. Does
>this stuff happen? Are there labs that get upset about nudes? Thanks in
>advance for your advice!
In addition to all the other good advice you've gotten I can
only add a couple more ideas. First, If you want to use a local 1 hour
lab make sure it is one where you are friendly with the people who run
it, and be upfront and tell them about the content of the pictures.
Second, pay the slight extra for 1 hr service, and be there 45 minutes
later to pick them up, not giving them time to stand around and/or get
reprinted.
brucer
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Mike McDonald
Better yet. Stand there the whole time so they don't have an oppertunity to
make dupes. Wandering around the store while popping by the photo counter every
few minutes should work too.
Drew P. Griffin
Better yet, kill an hour and wait in the lab WITH them and take the
"throw-aways" with you. Most quality printers run a first batch and then
go thorugh and correct those pictures that need it (i.e., density, color
balance, etc.). This assures that NOTHING hits the garbage can. As much
as I hate to say it, it does happen and I've seen it happen. Throw aways
passed around the lab and also, horrifyingly enough, the local bag boy from
next door going through the labs DUMPSTER searching for pictures!
Good luck!
-Drew Griffin
Griffin Photography
Todd Wilkinson
>While Bill's suggestion is very good I'm not sure it is necessary. First
>most "mass market" places place your film in the machine and when your
>24 prints are done they ccut the roll and these are yours.. In fact if
>you do slides there is a very good chance that absolutely no one will see
>your slides. The process is so automated that no one even has the
>ability to look much less make prints. If anything I would think
>that the large lab would be unable to take the time to make copies
>because they do not have the time to spend looking over each roll that
>enters the lab. Also I think it's the small
>custom lab that has the time due to the low volume to make copies and
>duplicates. The lab that does thousands of rolls a day doesn't have the
>time to copy anything. I've taken rolls of film to various labs and
>without exception there have no problems. The worst problem I can see is
>that they tell you they don't want your business again. Yes there are
>looks but I'm not sure that they aren't my imagination. The lab
>absolutely must give you your film back.
>
>Thats about all I can say on the matter..again I've done it plenty
>of times and have had not problems.
>
>Chuck
>
Not quite true. I've only taken explicit photos to a major chain once.
To my knowledge they were not copied, but the were looked at. I know because the lab called to
tell me the had developed the negs but would not make prints until after hours. Somebody does look at them.
Robert Slugg
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>I've had no problem with kodalux mailers
I have been told that at one time (when Kodak owned the labs) that they
wouldn't mail back *explicit* nudes because (at least in their view) the
distribution of pornography via the U.S. Mail was a felony. I was also told
that they used to punch out the "offending" parts before mailing them back.
I do know that there was a suit between Penthouse and Kodak regarding the
processing of Kodachrome. I don't know all of the details or the outcome,
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E. Michael Smith
>In article <2uvjdv...@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> rsl...@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (Robert Slugg) writes:
>>I've had no problem with kodalux mailers
>
>I have been told that at one time (when Kodak owned the labs) that they
>wouldn't mail back *explicit* nudes because (at least in their view) the
>distribution of pornography via the U.S. Mail was a felony.
At the local Longs Drug photo counter they have a notice posted
that nudes are considered pornographic under California Law and
will not be printed. They will use their discretion to either
print the rest of the roll and send you one of their notices not
to do it again, OR just give you back the unprinted film and a
stern notice...
Guess California never heard of the First Amendment ... nor of the
freedom of speach nor of...
You know, I've never had any desire to do a 'nude study'... until now. ;-)
There is something about being told that certain photographs are
CONTRABAND that just makes me want to run right out and see how
good a job I can do of creating them ...
I think I'll see if the local photo classes have a 'human figures'
session comming up.
Robert Wright
> that nudes are considered pornographic under California Law and
> will not be printed. They will use their discretion to either
> print the rest of the roll and send you one of their notices not
> to do it again, OR just give you back the unprinted film and a
> stern notice...
This is really odd! I'm not sure anyone in the UK would even
THINK about the morals of this question. Maybe if they had time,
they might have a good look though, and even make a few more
copies...
I wonder if this is the puritan ethos in the deep background of
the American past? I even remember once working for a Quaker
company. Two of the directors were reputed to have conducted a
45 minute silent trans Atlantic telephone conversation. Not sure
what was resolved, but maybe they knew.
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MICK
>There is something about being told that certain photographs are
>CONTRABAND that just makes me want to run right out and see how
>good a job I can do of creating them ...
So what does Colorado Law have to say about the commercial developing of
nude photos? Isn't any state law overridden by the First Amendment, and
by laws that prevent invasion of privacy?
--MICK
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Robert Gonzalez
: >There is something about being told that certain photographs are
: >CONTRABAND that just makes me want to run right out and see how
: >good a job I can do of creating them ...
: So what does Colorado Law have to say about the commercial developing of
: nude photos? Isn't any state law overridden by the First Amendment, and
: by laws that prevent invasion of privacy?
: --MICK
The constitution is supposed to take precedence over all STATE laws, but
try telling THEM than.
Robert J. Gonzalez
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Allan W. Ng
may suggest that I have participated in a crime (not necessarily have to
be sex related) do they have the right to turn my shots in to the police
as evidence or alert the authorities? Thanks
Peter Cheung
Well, it is up to the person who did the printing and the store's manager...
A few years back I worked at a very busy PhotoLab. I remember once when some
guy brought in a roll of film containing what looked like pictures from
a murder scene. We were a bit shocked as it look quite real. In the end,
the RCMP were called in and had a talk with the person when he picked up the
film. It turns out that the stuff were just props and things for some
sort of a production or something, and he was just shooting for fun.
It did look real though. I would first let the manager/owner know before hand
if you are going to send it to a lab for processing. At least they have
been warned.
Peter
Barry Sherman
I believe that all citizens (or residents) have a legal obligation
to notify the police if they are aware of a crime being committed.
Barring professionally priviledged relationships, that is.
Barry
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William Tyler
>
>I believe that all citizens (or residents) have a legal obligation
>to notify the police if they are aware of a crime being committed.
>Barring professionally priviledged relationships, that is.
There's no such obligation, legally. However, it is certainly the
right thing to do.
Back to photography ...
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Matthias Weber
That depends on the country, and here mayby on the state.
In Germany, they would *have* to report this to the police
(if they see the prints, which is not very likely).
Take care.
Matthias
Jerry Gardner x323
>I believe that all citizens (or residents) have a legal obligation
>to notify the police if they are aware of a crime being committed.
>Barring professionally priviledged relationships, that is.
Know any lawyers or shrinks that run a minilab on the side? :-)
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Doug S. Caprette
>
>>If let's say a roll of film that I hand in contains certain stuff which
>>may suggest that I have participated in a crime (not necessarily have to
>>be sex related) do they have the right to turn my shots in to the police
>>as evidence or alert the authorities? Thanks
>
>I believe that all citizens (or residents) have a legal obligation
>to notify the police if they are aware of a crime being committed.
>Barring professionally priviledged relationships, that is.
>
This is a popular misconception. Only those who have a professional
obligation to report a crime are legally oblidged to do so in the US.
This includes, but is not limited to: police, teachers, doctors, and nuclear
industry administrators. Moreover, in many cases the obligation varies by
state.
However, I suppose a good argument can be made that a film processor who
knowingly processes kiddie-porn is an accomplice unless they notify the
police immediately upon discovery.
I'm not an attorney, but I encourage you to consult one before disputing this.
I have spoken (hypothetically, you understand) with an attorney on this sub-
ject.
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> This is a popular misconception. Only those who have a professional
> obligation to report a crime are legally oblidged to do so in the US.
>
> This includes, but is not limited to: police, teachers, doctors, and nuclear
> industry administrators. Moreover, in many cases the obligation varies by
> state.
>
> However, I suppose a good argument can be made that a film processor who
> knowingly processes kiddie-porn is an accomplice unless they notify the
> police immediately upon discovery.
Check out the Jock Sturges case. In his case a lab employee called the FBI
about some nudes of children and all hell broke loose.
There is a lot of controversy about this subject and lawyers are going to make
a fortune litigating. I'm not saying that lawyers are bad or wrong, but this
is a highly controversial subject area and the laws are unclear, vague, and
poorly written. It will take years, if ever, for the area of porn and kiddie
porn are ever cleared up.
In the meantime, I would not take anything that could be miscontrued!! Period!
If you want to do nudes, make sure your subject is OVER-AGE and signs a model
release!!!!!
Process the film yourself if you want control. Remember, many, if not most
labs, have drawers full of nudes that come in. Only if you do it yourself, can
you have control over the photos!!!
Thomas Busey
>In the meantime, I would not take anything that could be miscontrued!! Period!
>If you want to do nudes, make sure your subject is OVER-AGE and signs a model
>release!!!!!
Man would I second this. I'm a psychologist working as an expert witness for
a guy down in Florida. He took some ill-advised pictures of some kids mooning
the camera while on a nature walk with him. He ended up with life + 99 yrs
after some other rather innocent activities were reinterpreted to be sinister.
-Tom
bu...@u.washington.edu
Doug S. Caprette
>
>
>> This is a popular misconception. Only those who have a professional
>> obligation to report a crime are legally oblidged to do so in the US.
>>
>>
>> However, I suppose a good argument can be made that a film processor who
>> knowingly processes kiddie-porn is an accomplice unless they notify the
>> police immediately upon discovery.
>
>Check out the Jock Sturges case. In his case a lab employee called the FBI
>about some nudes of children and all hell broke loose.
Indeed, almost anyone is permitted to report evidence of a crime, and most are
encouraged to do so.
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Armand Tsai
: There's no such obligation, legally. However, it is certainly the
: right thing to do.
Does any photolab guarantee confidentiality?! Not that I know of...
Armand
Rafael Santos
That reminds me, in Japan, pubic hair is (still) forbidden in public
(hehehe). Only books with young models sold as "art" are available.
Unrelated with soft pornography, but suppose I want to take some "art"
photos and develop them. Impossible to have a lab at home, even a small
one, considering the sizes of Japanese apartments. Of course I don't trust
the labs... even if they did not blur the images (as it *happened* with
a friend's photos), I am not sure that they will keep copies to them...
An idea I got is to take the photos and go to another town to have them
developed - the risks are the same, except the chance of the lab guys meeting
the model on the streets :-) Any suggestion ? I'd specially like to hear
from people who lives/lived in Japan, but any idea will be nice.
Rafael.
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In article <1994Jul22.1...@ccc.amdahl.com> b...@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Sherman) writes:
When I was in high school, a guy I knew asked me to develop and
print some nude pictures that he'd taken of his girlfriend. By the standards
of todays magazines they were pretty tame, but in 1967 they seemed
wild to me. Apparently I left an extra copy floating around the print washer
by accident because a few days later it appeared taped to the wall in the
main hall of the school.
Barry thanks for yet another awesome story. Here's mine...
When I was a nose-picking MIT undergrad (Class of '82), I took a photo
course and we had to do a weekend project. I was all set to do
architecture, but it rained (Boston "spring"). So I took nudes of the
women in my dormitory.
We proto-photo-nerds all worked in a 12-enlarger communal darkroom.
When my first proofs, of a dark-haired woman, landed in the final
wash, a couple guys snickered "Is that your girlfriend?" I responded
"No, just someone from my hall" and they went back to work.
Eventually another set came out but they were of a blonde. Someone
asked again "Is THAT your girlfriend?" I responded "No, just another
girl in East Campus."
Someone working alone at his enlarger moaned "I always had trouble
getting women to take off their clothes."
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Tom Wu
>
> When my first proofs, of a dark-haired woman, landed in the final
> wash, a couple guys snickered "Is that your girlfriend?" I responded
> "No, just someone from my hall" and they went back to work.
> Eventually another set came out but they were of a blonde. Someone
> asked again "Is THAT your girlfriend?" I responded "No, just another
> girl in East Campus."
Oh, East Campus... I was trying, and failing, to form a mental picture
of this happening in MacGregor (where I used to live) or Next.
> Someone working alone at his enlarger moaned "I always had trouble
> getting women to take off their clothes."
Oh great, there goes MIT's reputation. :-)
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ACHRIST
Waddell) writes:
I own a home darkroom and do all film development and printing myself.
Home darkrooms are more plentiful than you might think: ask friends if
they have or know anyone with access to a darkroom who might be willing to
develop your nude photos. I have developed nude photos for friends myself.
Good luck; your film has probably melted at this point.
gra...@delphi.com
>In article <2u88oq$f...@great-miami.iac.net>, gwad...@iac.net (George
>Waddell) writes:
>
>I own a home darkroom and do all film development and printing myself.
>Home darkrooms are more plentiful than you might think: ask friends if
>they have or know anyone with access to a darkroom who might be willing to
>develop your nude photos. I have developed nude photos for friends myself.
friend with one, and don't want the16-yrold clerks at the local camera store or
drugstore to see their "personal" photos, I offer this type of service for
photos with "consenting adults"-only models. for info,
drop me a note at: gra...@delphi.com
Richard Tanner
are both photog's and we often shoot nudes of ALL types, we also
develope for friends and many others that send sensitive-subject-matter
film to us.
And YES, we know of MANY stories about the kids in the stores making
private copies of your personal-private prints.
You can drop us a line, we will get back to you with details about
how we can help you with your film.
rich in Santa Clara.
Greg Mathews
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Ro> In article <CwCoD...@arraycomm.com>, ri...@array.arraycomm.com
Ro> (Richard Tanner) writes:
>>Count us in, My wife & I do this type of devlopment all the time, we
>>are both photog's and we often shoot nudes of ALL types, we also
>>develope for friends and many others that send
>>sensitive-subject-matter
>>film to us.
Ro> Yeah, but do you have any pictures of YOUR wife? If you're gonna see
Ro> mine, I wanna see yours...
Ro> (lest there be ANY confusion please note that while typing this, my
Ro> tongue is quite formly in my cheek.)
I'm not too sure where you are but as I operate a pro-studio lab you could
trust this lab and send to me here by mail or courier.
... Algebra: What The Little Mermaid wears.
Oleg Volk, US citizen
Or get some ciba paper and contact print your partner onto it :)
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ri...@array.arraycomm.com "Richard Tanner" writes:
> are both photog's and we often shoot nudes of ALL types, we also
> develope for friends and many others that send sensitive-subject-matter
> film to us.
> And YES, we know of MANY stories about the kids in the stores making
> private copies of your personal-private prints.
A friend I used to work with came in one day and asked me to print
these negs (I'm a color printer). They were from a friend of he's
who had new neighbours move in. Shortly after moving in, he started
gutting the place out to redecorate. On prising an old cupboard off
the wall, a set of negs droped out that they'd hidden and forgotten.
On inspection, he thought "where am I going to get these done".
So when he mentioned it to my friend, he couldn't wait to see them
himself because they were ex-neighbours and he still *see's them*.
He said he's never mentioned it to them, but on meeting's, brings
a smile to his face.
So all you nude'y photog's out there.*Be careful where you hide
your naughty ones* :-)
BTW> Is that what electric toothbrushes are for.:-)
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