wedding portrait?
Istvano
I would like to learn from analizing pictures (even I will just help a
friend of mine at the wedding as friend) can you recommend me professional
photographers work on the web..... I should take a look, or anything where I
can find good portrait pictures for learning...
Thanks in advance.
ps: I know the copyright things, It's really for learning from experienced
photographer works.
istvano
FotoFile2002
lessons on how to pose people. Many of the articles are written by Monte
Zucker who is one of the top wedding photographers in the USA.
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Bruce MacNeil
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Frank & Sharon Morales Jr.
photographer" to do the job right. And if i were getting married i would
not expect anything less than a pro. But it seems to me (no offense
intended) that when asking the "How to" question, the appropriate answer
is NOT hire a pro. A "how to question, in my opinion, is more about the
mechanics of shooting a wedding. So i guess my question would be, how
does some one get the experience to become a pro? Also, there are
different degrees of a "pro" photographer. Let's face it, not every one
is a "Zuga", but that doesn't mean the the rest of the photographers say
"no, i can't shoot your wedding because my name is not zuga". If that
where the case, Zuga would have the market cornered. Again, this is
written more out of frustration from the typical answer of "hire a pro".
I will be shooting my 3rd wedding today, and so far no complaints. This
also means that this not the first time i have had a camera "attached to
my face", so to speak. I shoot a lot a scenics and parties and
understand the "mechanics of lighting techniques". I would just like to
get some "friendly advice" that does not include HIRE A PRO. Posing,
handling the wedding party to get the photo's before everyone gets
sloshed, how to handle "uncle joe" when he starts to give unsolicited
advice, shooting inside the reception hall, and yes, the dreaded "what
film should i use" question are very legitimate questions for some one
starting out in the wedding field. To date i have not personally met any
one that was born knowing how to shoot weddings, let alone use a camera.
Again, please do not take offense. Just looking for some "real life of
the wedding photographer" advice.
I also understand that using a MF camera is the way to go, even for
scenic shots. But not every one has that kind of money. I would love to
own a 645, but that is very unrealistic for me as i'm sure it is for
other people. I own a Canon Elan IIe, with very typical EOS lenses
(24-105, 70-210, 50mm). I have learned to use my equipment to its
fullest and get very good results at 8X10, and for the consumer, the
11X14 look great. "I" can see the difference in the grain with bigger
enlargements, but the majority of the public does not. That being said,
i would love to hear from the 35mm wedding photographer. Just MHO.
Thanks.
Frank Morales (wannabe wedding photographer)
PS, Practice, practice, practice, is great advice. But if the pro's are
telling people to hire a pro, how can a "budding" wedding photographer
get the practice they need???????????
zeitgeist wrote:
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> try www.zuga.net
>
Bruce MacNeil
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> different degrees of a "pro" photographer. Let's face it, not every one
> is a "Zuga", but that doesn't mean the the rest of the photographers say
Let's face it, not every one
> is a "Zuga",
Thankfully.
RBrac53660
Zuganess.
Bright idea lets have polaroid instantly at a 1/3 1/16 stop off from chrome.
bill jones
<smor...@epix.net> wrote:
I see you have gotten lots of good reply's. A friend of mine is
breaking into wedding photograpgy as well.
What she did was work as the assistant to a good w-p for a while and
then start picking up jobs on her own.
You asked how to get experience, that's the best way I know. You also
can crash a few weddings and observe what the photographer does. Just
don't drink all the champagne.
Creative Digital Imagery
next generation photography
Try it, you might like it!
Big Guy
Professional film, professional lab, correct exposure, and image
presentation of the wedding previews in an album are all critical steps.
The fact is that the artistic side takes time to learn, but the business
side is worse.
You can shoot weddings with 35 mm film and equipment given correct lighting
and exposure. You could even shoot it digitally. Time and bad experience are
the best teachers getting better.
The business side is the challenge. Being paid well for delivering a
professional product to the customer is tough. It costs big money to do
everything the right way. Training, film, equipment, processing,
advertising, studio upkeep and time all cost money. Not charging enough to
do all these things leaves you poor and unable to afford to do the things
the right way. Skimp and you will pay for it. The business will not grow as
it should.
Mike
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"Frank & Sharon Morales Jr." wrote:
>
> Ok guys & gals, I appreciate the advice of hiring a "pro wedding
> photographer" to do the job right. And if i were getting married i would
> not expect anything less than a pro. But it seems to me (no offense
> intended) that when asking the "How to" question, the appropriate answer
> is NOT hire a pro. A "how to question, in my opinion, is more about the
> mechanics of shooting a wedding. So i guess my question would be, how
> does some one get the experience to become a pro? Also, there are
> different degrees of a "pro" photographer.
> zeitgeist wrote:
> >
> > try www.zuga.net
> >
I have often posted that shooting isn't brain surgery and have offered
advise freely and much of it can be found in the archives of the
z-prophoto mailing list at yahoogroups.com the suggestion of going to
zuga net is valid, as one who has photographed a couple weddings already
you are probably ready for some of the advanced concepts, and even
serious journalists do need to set up a few poses and light portraits
and the techniques are great for location shoots whether the subjects
wear white dresses or khaki uniforms.
as for choice of film, If I told you I use portra or NHG, would it be
relevant if another has not done an exposure test to see what their
working ISO is with their lens/bod/lab/meter system. what works for me
may not work for another. heck, do you know what kind of paper your
lab runs? without systematic consistency the choice of film is nearly
irrelevant.
The facts are, the average wedding is not a grand affair but a dozen
family in someone's backyard, a couple dozen in a community center,
even a handful in a courthouse or at Elvis' drive in marriage window.
anyone having a large social and decides to save a few bucks by having a
friend shoot the pictures deserves what they get.
jaktracy
get what you want. Go to all of the wedding coordinators at every church
within 25 miles of where you live and offer to shoot weddings at cost!!!
and I mean cost!!! if you shoot 10 rolls of nps160 and take the film to
costco and have them print it charge em $200.00 bucks!!! Be honest and let
them know your agenda. Find out if you really have what it takes. Develop
your own style. Shoot till you no longer need your list of must have 50
shots in your shirt pocket. When you are happy... with your product not
when your customers are happy charge what you think you are worth and add
50%. You cannot buy your way into this craft!!!! You will see soon enough
of the junk put out by a great photographers trying to shoot the last of
three weddings on a Saturday. P.S. If you have lots of Bucks... enroll at
Brooks... Or try getting your education at the University Of The Streets...
Good Luck
Jack
> >
Frank & Sharon Morales Jr.
I want to thank one and all for the GREAT advice, private & posted. I
also went to B&N, had a cup of java, and read for about an hour. Now i'm
deciding which book to add to my collection. Thanks again.
Frank Morales
Brigitte's mama
I am a maternity photographer. My entrance into the world of photographing
childbirth came after years of attending births as the labour support. When
I began photographing childbirth professionally, I had to chase pregnant
women down and then ask them if I could attend their birth with my camera.
It was a long haul, and a lot of time spent learning how to photograph a
woman in heavy labour while not acting like a paparazzi. I did a lot of work
for free, armed with model release forms, and hope that I was doing a good
job without being invasive.
After attending births, I had a pretty good idea of how to be unobtrusive.
I also had a good idea of what to expect in the labour and delivery room.
If I had read some books, which let me assure you are few and far between
when it comes to photographing childbirth, and then paid a lot of money for
a course at the local U, I would have learned some valuable tools for a
hefty fee.
HOWEVER, there are a lot of things that a book or a course can't teach you,
like how to stand on a chair at the midwife's shoulder without falling off,
while snapping shots that are considered tasteful. For that, I had to
actually attend births.
I imagine attending a wedding is much the same thing. There is one way to
get good, and that is to learn the interior of each church/synagogue/hall in
the area, then learn how to be malleable in each living room. In fact, I'd
guess that shooting a wedding would be easier in some ways. At the very
least, you have a model who doesn't strike a pose, then change it every
fifteen seconds.
I'd say that you should consider the time you spend shooting for free to be
the equal to paying for a course. Yes, it will cost you time and energy,
but until you have done a lot of work, you can't determine your worth.
Charlotte
--
We haven't come a long way and don't call me baby.
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> The best way to get experience is shooting lots of weddings. Try giving
to
> get what you want. Go to all of the wedding coordinators at every church
> within 25 miles of where you live and offer to shoot weddings at cost!!!
> and I mean cost!!! if you shoot 10 rolls of nps160 and take the film to
> costco and have them print it charge em $200.00 bucks!!! Be honest and let
> them know your agenda. Find out if you really have what it takes.
Develop
> your own style. Shoot till you no longer need your list of must have 50
> shots in your shirt pocket. When you are happy... with your product not
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