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Lens Size for 4x5 Portraits?

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dcs

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Dec 11, 2001, 8:14:02 PM12/11/01
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Does anyone know what the minimum lens size without distortion is that
i need to use for shooting portraits with my 4x5? The portraits are
slightly closer that mid shot, but not close ups. They are shoulders
and up. The face is distorting slightly with my 150mm. I'm new at
portraits, so any advice from you Portrait Pro's out there would be
helpful. Also wondering how far away from the subject i am going to
end up being if i change my lens.

Thanks in advance for any replies.
feel free to email me too.

Steve/Foto FX Photography

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Dec 11, 2001, 8:55:25 PM12/11/01
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You need 210 or longer..


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zeitgeist

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Dec 12, 2001, 1:07:54 AM12/12/01
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> Does anyone know what the minimum lens size without distortion is that
> i need to use for shooting portraits with my 4x5? The portraits are
> slightly closer that mid shot, but not close ups. They are shoulders
> and up. The face is distorting slightly with my 150mm. I'm new at
> portraits, so any advice from you Portrait Pro's out there would be
> helpful. Also wondering how far away from the subject i am going to
> end up being if i change my lens.
>

210 or so...

Tom Nelson

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Dec 12, 2001, 6:38:37 PM12/12/01
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In article <XEyR7.144939$8n4.11...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>,

Steve/Foto FX Photography <steve_...@fotofx.net> wrote:
> You need 210 or longer..

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> 210 or so...

I second (third?) that. 210mm's a minimum. 300mm is ideal.
Tom Nelson
Tom Nelson Photography

Richard Poole

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Dec 14, 2001, 11:35:11 PM12/14/01
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Having always said, "the best lens is the ones you've got:-)
which is true but with a qualification.
It's not he lens focal length that is the problem it's the subject to camera
distance.
While a 210 or 240mm lens is ideal for what you want to do. With either of
these lenes you would be somewhere between 6 to 8 feet from the subject,
using the 150mm lens on 5x4 at the same distance the perspective of the
subject (even though the subject image on the negative will be smaller)
will be the same but the background area covered will be greater.
So really its a matter of designing your images around this fact.
Have a look at the portraiture of Arnold Newman as an example.
regards,
Richard.
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Paul

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Jan 14, 2002, 10:47:02 PM1/14/02
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The 'rule' is at least twice the normal focal length, so that would be at
least 300mm for 4x5.
Paul.

BlackMax

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Jan 15, 2002, 9:10:57 AM1/15/02
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210mm would be similar to using an 85mm in 35

Martin Trucco

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Jan 15, 2002, 9:49:17 AM1/15/02
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>Does anyone know what the minimum lens size without distortion is that I

need to use for shooting portraits with my 4x5? The portraits are slightly
closer that mid shot, but not close ups. They are shoulders and up. The face
is distorting slightly with my 150mm. I'm new at portraits, so any advice
from you Portrait Pro's out there would be helpful. Also wondering how far
away from the subject i am going to end up being if i change my lens.

The general "rule" is that for a natural look you should be shooting
from a distance between five and ten times the depth of the subject (30 to
40 cm. in a single person, should be a shooting distance between 1.5 and 3.0
m.). The main advantage in 4x5 is that most probably the format is too big,
so if you shoot with a 180 or 210 mm. focal length lens and you find that
at, say, 2m. you are covering a bit more than what you've expected you can
crop later.

Rgds.

Martin, a new 4x5 user (recently acquired a Linhof Technika with a
Symmar 180mm convertible lens. Still haven't used it)
www.martintrucco.com.ar


Bruce MacNeil

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Jan 15, 2002, 7:57:07 PM1/15/02
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Hello -

My web site is

www.brucemacneil.com

360mm lens - 8x10 camera.

4x5 - I suggest a 240 would be great.


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MStew4291

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Jan 16, 2002, 12:39:34 PM1/16/02
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Bruce...my understanding is that to achieve an equivilent focal length for 8 x
10 you would have to double the focal length of your 4 x 5 lens. (i.e. 150 on a
4 x 5 would require a 300 on 8 x 10 for the same perspecitve)

If that's true why would you want a 240mm lens for the 4 x 5 but only a 360mm
on the 8 x 10 instear of a 480mm?

Bruce MacNeil

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Jan 16, 2002, 8:24:25 PM1/16/02
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It is not that you would not want a 480 on your 8x10 - just that it is not
that practical.

A 240 f5.6 is not that expensive and works like a charm for 4x5 portraits.

Of course, you can always use any lens you want or have.

have a look at my website - www.brucemacneil.com - for examples of some LF
portraits.


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zeitgeist

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Jan 17, 2002, 7:01:48 PM1/17/02
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I used a 210mm on my 4x5, but since most images were cropped, the usual
area used was equal to a 3.25x4.25 to a 6x7/9 a 210 on such a camera is
about right for your formula.

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