hand painting your own muslins
Glenn de Souza
muslin backgrounds? I'm interested in Old Master styles in different color
palettes. Buying one of each I want would cost more than I can afford, so I
got to thinking about painting my own.
Thanks in Advance
Glenn de Souza
Scottsdale, Arizona
Cliff Hawker
of assistance. I read it several years ago, experimented and came up with
some nice backdrops.
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Glenn de Souza <Uni...@email.msn.com> wrote in message
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zeitgeist
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> Can anyone point me to info on the web (or anywhere) about painting your own
> muslin backgrounds? I'm interested in Old Master styles in different color
> palettes. Buying one of each I want would cost more than I can afford, so I
> got to thinking about painting my own.
>
there was a recent thread on this.
but muslin probably isn't a good medium for an old master style
background. that is traditionally been painted on thicker canvas.
get some canvass and buy some household latex paint and a few sponges
and brushes.
Bruce
backgrounds, I wouldn't bother. muslin is a light material, once you put
paint on it- it will be heavy, thick, and will easily crack. Never mind the
flattening issue. "flat paints" are not flat enough for photographic use.
Plus, there are very few flatting additives that are actually flat enough
for photographic use as well.
PLUS, most muslins are actually dyed, not painted - even harder to get a
blended old masters look.
Why not start off with purchasing a grey old masters and start playing with
coloured gels to give you different coloured backgrounds? You will have to
learn how to control your light (-3 stops minimum of fall off from subject
to background if you want a vivid colour from your gelled background light).
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Bruce A. Hendricks MPA, F.Ph.
Clearbrook Photographic Arts Inc.
http://www.photoart.bc.ca
Glenn de Souza wrote in message ...
>Can anyone point me to info on the web (or anywhere) about painting your
own
>muslin backgrounds? I'm interested in Old Master styles in different color
>palettes. Buying one of each I want would cost more than I can afford, so I
>got to thinking about painting my own.
>
Eric Scott
information??????????????
>
> Not that easy. First off, unless you have extensive experience in painting
> backgrounds, I wouldn't bother. muslin is a light material, once you put
> paint on it- it will be heavy, thick, and will easily crack.
The above sentence is totally bull poop information. We have at least a
dozen painted muslin backgrounds that we have painted at the studio. They
are not heavy. Two of them are 20' X 19' and they are not heavy. They are
not think and they do not crack. They are easily waded and stuffed into a
laundry bag. If you want to use one with a complete smooth look to it hang
it up a few hours before the shoot and mist it with warm water.
Never mind the
> flattening issue. "flat paints" are not flat enough for photographic use.
And your experience here on this subject is a total ignorant post. We use
flat paints daily at our commercial studio. Do you just make up this garbage
or do you really believe it?
> Plus, there are very few flatting additives that are actually flat enough
> for photographic use as well.
Never needed them. What we do to paint our muslin cloth is first size it. To
size it we take (depending on size of cloth) about 5 gallons of water to one
gallon of flat white paint and paint the cloth. After that has dried we
crumple the cloth several times. then the colors are added with rollers and
the ratio is mixed anywhere from 1 to 6 gallons of water to gallon of flat
paint.
>
> PLUS, most muslins are actually dyed, not painted - even harder to get a
> blended old masters look.
Again not totally factual information.
>
> Why not start off with purchasing a grey old masters and start playing with
> coloured gels to give you different coloured backgrounds?
Why not do both?
You will have to
> learn how to control your light (-3 stops minimum of fall off from subject
> to background if you want a vivid colour from your gelled background light).
Again the above statement is not 100% accurate and factual.
Eric Scott
Eric Scott
> From: zeitgeist <blkhat...@yahoo.com>
> Organization: Esquire Photography
> Newsgroups: rec.photo.technique.people
> Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 21:41:35 -0700
> To: Glenn de Souza <Uni...@email.msn.com>
> Subject: Re: hand painting your own muslins
>
> Glenn de Souza wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone point me to info on the web (or anywhere) about painting your own
>> muslin backgrounds? I'm interested in Old Master styles in different color
>> palettes. Buying one of each I want would cost more than I can afford, so I
>> got to thinking about painting my own.
>>
>
> there was a recent thread on this.
>
> but muslin probably isn't a good medium for an old master style
> background. that is traditionally been painted on thicker canvas.
Maybe in the old days but as usual Z with your head in the mud you are not
open to change. We do not use any old heavy canvas backgrounds. Mostly we
use our cove but then we move into old master style hand painted muslin.
The Director
Eric Scott wrote:
> Where in the heck do you come up with this bull dong
> information??????????????
Stick your ass in the air, Eric, and wait to the breeze to
wipe it clean. Your opinions stink, so go back to your
pornography and stop giving your advice... If you want
someone to talk to, you have Cliff. The abuse you have
subjected women to in your fake modeling scams should
have you sitting in a prison.
The Director
Eric Scott wrote:
>
> Maybe in the old days but as usual Z with your head in the mud you are not
> open to change. We do not use any old heavy canvas backgrounds. Mostly we
> use our cove but then we move into old master style hand painted muslin.
Who is "we"? (see above)
You are a pornographer and the only "we" would be you
and Cliff and some prostitutes from a recent shoot... right?
You know what you can do with your hack opinions, right
Eric Scott???
Let's do lunch!
Cliff Hawker
e-mail that Hotmail closed for abuse.
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your fake e-mail that Hotmail closed for abuse.
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Cliff Hawker wrote:
> Leave me out of your libelous posts. Your posts begin with a lie, your fake
> e-mail that Hotmail closed for abuse.
>
> --
> Cliff Hawker
> Medina, Oh
>
> The Director <wearethe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
The Director
Cliff Hawker wrote:
> Leave me out of your malicious libelous posts. Your posts begin with a lie,
> your fake e-mail that Hotmail closed for abuse.
>
> --
> Cliff Hawker
> Medina, Oh
>
> The Director <wearethe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Cliff Hawker
post of yours with the fake e-mail address that Hotmail closed for abuse (as
they did with your others). That simple. Even more simple: stop your
libelous posts.
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Cliff Hawker
Medina, Oh
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> Shut up, pornographer assistant to Eric.
>
>
>
> Cliff Hawker wrote:
>
> > Leave me out of your libelous posts. Your posts begin with a lie, your
fake
> > e-mail that Hotmail closed for abuse.
> >
> > --
> > Cliff Hawker
> > Medina, Oh
> >
> > The Director <wearethe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
The Director
Why do you so desire to argue? Why is it that when looking at the other
places on the net that you post, all your posts are those involved in
other flame wars (those which don't even involve us)? Is it that
everybody hates you so much, or do you just pick fights because it
is fun? Is this all done to entertain your clients, whom you claim sit
around your webtv unit with you, giggling and posting flames? We
believe you to be a scam... much like all the "scam?" postings that you
and Mr. Eric post in alt.models every day in your attempt to try to
protect everybody from everything when in reality, it's to make YOU
look legit so you can spin your own yarns. We told you: Forever
Clifford.
Cliff Hawker
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Medina, Oh
The Director <wearethe...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Mr. Puppet,
> Why do you so desire to argue? Why is it that when looking at the other
> places on the net that you post, all your posts are those involved in
> other flame wars (those which don't even involve us)? Is it that
Where else is there a fight? You are the only one that posts the malicious
lies you do.
> everybody hates you so much, or do you just pick fights because it
> is fun? Is this all done to entertain your clients, whom you claim sit
> around your webtv unit with you, giggling and posting flames? We
> believe you to be a scam... much like all the "scam?" postings that you
I don't care what you believe, lady. You will stop your libelous posts.
> and Mr. Eric post in alt.models every day in your attempt to try to
I don't post "scam". However, you have posted many in just the past week.
The Director
Cliff Hawker wrote:
> I don't care what you believe, lady. You will stop your libelous posts.
When?
> I don't post "scam". However, you have posted many in just the past week.
alt.models, where you and Eric pretend to be "I make
shadows"
THAT SIMPLE!!! :-)
Cliff Hawker
>
>
> Cliff Hawker wrote:
>
> > I don't care what you believe, lady. You will stop your libelous posts.
>
> When?
Surprise!
> > I don't post "scam". However, you have posted many in just the past
week.
>
> alt.models, where you and Eric pretend to be "I make
> shadows"
I am not "I make shadows" and you can not point to a single post where I
post "scam". That's your game, lady. Stop your libelous posts. That
Simple.
> THAT SIMPLE!!! :-)
The Director
Cliff Hawker wrote:
> > When?
>
> Surprise!
Yeah yeah... Well hurry up already, I'm growing a beard
here waiting! LOL
Cliff Hawker
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The Director
The Bearded Lady and the Pornographer that
says "that simple"!