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Mike Bouffard

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Jun 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/24/98
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I am building a portrait studio (13' x 16' with 9 foot ceilings), and
now I am at the painting stage. I thought flat black would be good to
avoid any light spill. I thought about white to fill in shadows.

Anyone have experience with this? Post or email to bouf...@silcom.com

Mike


Louie Powell

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Jun 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/24/98
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I've been dreaming about a studio, but - - -

Most studio's I seen are black or other dark color. The reason is that you
want to control the light, and if the walls/ceilings are dark, you will get
random reflections.

Mike Bouffard wrote:

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Nathan Shafer

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Jun 24, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/24/98
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Mike Bouffard wrote:
>
> I am building a portrait studio (13' x 16' with 9 foot ceilings), and
> now I am at the painting stage. I thought flat black would be good to
> avoid any light spill. I thought about white to fill in shadows.
>
> Anyone have experience with this?

Both of these statements are correct. So ask yourself: am I more
likely to want to get good, balanced 3:1 portrait lighting as easily
as possible, or am I more likely to want to take the extra effort,
and be able to get some really dramatic lighting?

We have one wall in our studio that is painted a fairly bright, slightly
warm white. This wall does well on two counts: 1. It gives us a
great high-key wall (although the floor is blond hardwood, so it doesn't
feature a sweep), and one occasion we will put our subject on the
adjacent wall, and bounce our main and fill off the white wall, giving
us a nice, 13'x20' softbox at a perfect angle to the subject! :-)

- Nathan

Frederic Goudal

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Jun 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/25/98
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Nathan Shafer <sha...@earthlink.net> writes:
> Mike Bouffard wrote:
> > I am building a portrait studio (13' x 16' with 9 foot ceilings), and
> > now I am at the painting stage. I thought flat black would be good to
> > avoid any light spill. I thought about white to fill in shadows.
> >
> > Anyone have experience with this?
>

> We have one wall in our studio that is painted a fairly bright, slightly


> warm white. This wall does well on two counts: 1. It gives us a
> great high-key wall (although the floor is blond hardwood, so it doesn't
> feature a sweep), and one occasion we will put our subject on the
> adjacent wall, and bounce our main and fill off the white wall, giving
> us a nice, 13'x20' softbox at a perfect angle to the subject! :-)

I have been told that it is very difficult to have a neutral white
with a painted wall/ and that in color photography a special care
should be taken considering the real color of the reflected light.

f.g.

P.S. Not tested as I don't care in b&w.

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Bruce Caines

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Jun 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/25/98
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Following this thread has been interesting. Is painting studios black
something typically done in wedding/portrait photography studios?
Since I don't frequent them I don't know.

In commercial studios, I have never come across this at all. Most
studios I have ever worked in, visited or rented have been white. Pure
white. Walls and ceilings, and often light colored wood floors. Some
have exposed brick, and some "specialty" studios even have textured
walls of varying color, but never in my experience, black. Even in a
still-life studio shooting table top work, the studios are white.

Several of the photographers I personally know (including myself)
shoot advertising and editorial portrait work. A black studio would
seem...surreal. :) In film and video, that's a different story.
Walls of sound stages seem to be universally painted black or dark
grey.


In a previous post, Frederic Goudal <gou...@info.enserb.u-bordeaux.fr>
arranged some electrons so they looked like this :

>Nathan Shafer <sha...@earthlink.net> writes:
>> Mike Bouffard wrote:
>> > I am building a portrait studio (13' x 16' with 9 foot ceilings), and
>> > now I am at the painting stage. I thought flat black would be good to
>> > avoid any light spill. I thought about white to fill in shadows.
>> >
>> > Anyone have experience with this?
>>
>
>> We have one wall in our studio that is painted a fairly bright, slightly
>> warm white. This wall does well on two counts: 1. It gives us a
>> great high-key wall (although the floor is blond hardwood, so it doesn't
>> feature a sweep), and one occasion we will put our subject on the
>> adjacent wall, and bounce our main and fill off the white wall, giving
>> us a nice, 13'x20' softbox at a perfect angle to the subject! :-)
>
>I have been told that it is very difficult to have a neutral white
>with a painted wall/ and that in color photography a special care
>should be taken considering the real color of the reflected light.
>
>f.g.
>
>P.S. Not tested as I don't care in b&w.

Bruce Caines

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ronald...@mci.com

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Jun 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/25/98
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I would do white. Keep in mind this is a place you want your clients to feel
comfortable. A "black" area is kinda creepy, and feels smaller. Your studio
is not large to begin with. Unless your planning on using the walls directly
for bouncing light, the white just needs to be nuteral since it should not
effect the main light temp that hits the subject and background.

Also, you can always use backdrops and other means to absorb light where
necessary. I have seen hundreds of studios in magizines like "American
Photography" and "Studio" and they are usually nuteral white (Herb Ritz, Monte
Zuckers, for example).

Now if it was a dark room, that's a horse of a different color!

Ron


In article <uxogviv...@spendius.info>,


Frederic Goudal <gou...@info.enserb.u-bordeaux.fr> wrote:
>
> Nathan Shafer <sha...@earthlink.net> writes:
> > Mike Bouffard wrote:
> > > I am building a portrait studio (13' x 16' with 9 foot ceilings), and
> > > now I am at the painting stage. I thought flat black would be good to
> > > avoid any light spill. I thought about white to fill in shadows.
> > >
> > > Anyone have experience with this?
> >
>
> > We have one wall in our studio that is painted a fairly bright, slightly
> > warm white. This wall does well on two counts: 1. It gives us a
> > great high-key wall (although the floor is blond hardwood, so it doesn't
> > feature a sweep), and one occasion we will put our subject on the
> > adjacent wall, and bounce our main and fill off the white wall, giving
> > us a nice, 13'x20' softbox at a perfect angle to the subject! :-)
>
> I have been told that it is very difficult to have a neutral white
> with a painted wall/ and that in color photography a special care
> should be taken considering the real color of the reflected light.
>
> f.g.
>
> P.S. Not tested as I don't care in b&w.
>

> --
> Filh photography. A taste of freedom in a conventional world.
> New web site address http://www.i-france.com/filh
> e-mail gou...@enserb.u-bordeaux.fr
> FAQ frp : http://www.enserb.u-bordeaux.fr/~goudal/frp/faq.html
>


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Jon Cohen

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Jun 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/25/98
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Bruce Caines wrote in message <359244e1....@news.mindspring.com>...


>Following this thread has been interesting. Is painting studios black
>something typically done in wedding/portrait photography studios?
>Since I don't frequent them I don't know.
>
>In commercial studios, I have never come across this at all. Most
>studios I have ever worked in, visited or rented have been white. Pure
>white. Walls and ceilings, and often light colored wood floors. Some
>have exposed brick, and some "specialty" studios even have textured
>walls of varying color, but never in my experience, black. Even in a
>still-life studio shooting table top work, the studios are white.
>
>Several of the photographers I personally know (including myself)
>shoot advertising and editorial portrait work. A black studio would
>seem...surreal. :) In film and video, that's a different story.
>Walls of sound stages seem to be universally painted black or dark
>grey.
>

I'm the guy that has a dark green studio. While some people advocate
black, let me make a statement to cover the "dark colored to black"
side of the discussion (if I may be so presumptious).

I chose a dark color because my studio was small, meaning that at
any given time, 2 walls were going to be close to my subjects. I wanted
to control all the light in the photograph, so I didn't want stray light
bouncing off of a light colored wall and filling in an area I wanted in
shadow.

Now granted, there is a certain romantic feel with high key pictures,
but I always figured that it was easier for me to add in light than to
block it out. Again, a lot of this thinking on my part had to do with
having a cramped, small studio -- I may reconsider if/when I move
into a larger studio.

Michael Quack

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Jun 27, 1998, 3:00:00 AM6/27/98
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Bruce Caines <zp...@brucecaines.com> schrieb im Beitrag

<359244e1....@news.mindspring.com>...
> Following this thread has been interesting. Is painting studios black
> something typically done in wedding/portrait photography studios?
> Since I don't frequent them I don't know.
Don't know. I do both commercial work and portraits, and now
with the third studio (gotten bigger, better everytime) it is
three white ones that I had. One can easily control light
with curtains and large flags. Of course my studio can
be totally shielded against daylight.


> In commercial studios, I have never come across this at all.
Some stillifers are jet black. I'd rather use black curtains,
but that is personal preference.

> Most studios I have ever worked in, visited or rented have
> been white. Pure white. Walls and ceilings, and often light
> colored wood floors. Some have exposed brick, and some
> "specialty" studios even have textured walls of varying color,
> but never in my experience, black. Even in a
> still-life studio shooting table top work, the studios are white.

Right. One can make use of flags, grids, barndoors and
produce very sharp and brilliant lighting without the need
for a black room.

> Several of the photographers I personally know (including myself)
> shoot advertising and editorial portrait work.

Mee, too.

> A black studio would seem...surreal. :)

Right.

> In film and video, that's a different story.
> Walls of sound stages seem to be universally
> painted black or dark grey.

Mostly in order to control unexpected reflections that might
arise when moving the camera.

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