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Thorsten Mann

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Aug 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/17/97
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Does anybody have an idea how to keep TYFLAS and ather such "orginations
from using my pictures? ( http://www.tyflas.org/misc.html )

Thanks for any hint

Thorsten Mann

goober

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Aug 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/17/97
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Hey Thorsten, glad to see you are getting your site up and going again.
I believe that if you e-mail tyflas they will honor your request. As
for others, if they have web sites, you should be able to e-mail them.
If they are posting to newsgroups, that's another story. They probably
don't give a flip what your wishes are. I personally have a few of your
pictures, but have never posted them anywhere, and don't intend to. I
am a regular poster to several newsgroups and I personally follow the
wishes of the originators of all pics that I download. One time I
posted some of Little Rascals pics to abpep-t and he request via a
newsgroup post that I stop. I have not posted any of his pics since
then.

Let me know via this newsgroup if tyflas will not comply. I am a member
there and I will see what I can do. As for the philosophy (misspelled?)
of tyflas. I can tell you that they constantly police their content and
are truely just what they say they are, admirers of young girl's feet.
At one time they had a problem with some chat group content that was
questionable, and have since put stricter controls on their site. I
have some original scans that have made it into the members only
archive, for which I feel honored. This is different than your case,
though, because of your relationship with the subjects.

Good luck, and I hope to see your site grow. Thanks for the wonderful
work you have done so far.

goober.

"When you wish upon a star..." J. Cricket :-)

jack_gurner

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Aug 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/19/97
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In article <01bcab5d$f70465a0$b1f540c2@clyde>, "Thorsten says...

>
>Does anybody have an idea how to keep TYFLAS and ather such "orginations
>from using my pictures? ( http://www.tyflas.org/misc.html )
>
>Thanks for any hint
>
>Thorsten Mann

Take a moment to go to the site listed above and read their material. It
makes even some of the 'pornographers' who have posted here seem normal.

Since this site is apparently in the UK, it would make it more difficult
for Mann to do anything legally.

Jack Gurner
jgu...@watervalley.net

camera

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Aug 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/19/97
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Many of the offending sites use proxeys which are outside the USA but
they live right here. Thats how they can get away with it

eric

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Aug 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/19/97
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wrong you do not have to quit......just do what i do......all my images
are watermarked with an invisible copyright.....you can get this feature
by paying extra money for a registration fee with a company working in
conjunction with Adobe Photoshop.......check it out it may be worth it
to you to spend the money.....

eric
http://rampages.onramp.net/~erics

CAMERA MAN wrote:
>
> On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:27:24 GMT, bro...@the-centre.org (Broots)
> wrote:
>
> >On 17 Aug 1997 21:42:48 GMT, "Thorsten Mann"


> ><t_m...@bielefeld.netsurf.de> wrote:
> >
> >>Does anybody have an idea how to keep TYFLAS and ather such "orginations
> >>from using my pictures? ( http://www.tyflas.org/misc.html )
> >

> >When you say "using", what exactly do you mean?
> >
> >Do they simply distribute them for free?
> >Do they sell them?
> >Do they imprint their logo and/ or web URL on them?
> >
> >Depending on the nature of the use, different actions may be
> >appropriate.
> >
> >But first, have you emailed them? Have you asked them to remove your
> >scans from their pages?
> >
> >One thing you can do is imprint the pictures with your signature or
> >other identifying mark. Somewhere on the picture, put "T.Mann scan".
> >Don't obscure the subject of the image, but do put your imprint far
> >enough away from the edge so that people won't simply crop it off.
> >
> >If people really want to use your pic, they can retouch it, but it
> >takes a lot of work -- especially to keep the pic from turning to crap
> >in the process.
> >
> >Broots.
> If he posts, other people are going to use his pics, if he doesn't
> want that ot happen then he needs to quit posting

Broots

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Aug 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/19/97
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camera

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Aug 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/19/97
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On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:27:24 GMT, bro...@the-centre.org (Broots)
wrote:

>On 17 Aug 1997 21:42:48 GMT, "Thorsten Mann"

camera

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Aug 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/20/97
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On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 16:47:41 -0700, eric <er...@onramp.net> wrote:

>wrong you do not have to quit......just do what i do......all my images
>are watermarked with an invisible copyright.....you can get this feature
>by paying extra money for a registration fee with a company working in
>conjunction with Adobe Photoshop.......check it out it may be worth it
>to you to spend the money.....
>
>eric
>http://rampages.onramp.net/~erics
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>CAMERA MAN wrote:
>>

True, but it still gets used.

Kim Rollins

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Aug 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/22/97
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In article <01bcab5d$f70465a0$b1f540c2@clyde> "Thorsten Mann"
<t_m...@bielefeld.netsurf.de> writes:
|Does anybody have an idea how to keep TYFLAS and ather such "orginations
|from using my pictures? ( http://www.tyflas.org/misc.html )
|

Kim Rollins

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Aug 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/22/97
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Sorry for the blank post earlier (like I haven't already made every other
mistake it's possible to make online. . .)

Start by sending them a cease and desist letter. I have sent one via email
before, and it was quite effective.

Here's an example:

Dear [name]:

It has come to my attention that you have made an unauthorized use of my
copyrighted work entitled [name of work] (the "Work") in the preparation of a
work derived therefrom. I have reserved all rights in the Work, first
published in [date], [and have registered copyright therein]. Your work
entitled [name of infringing work] is essentially identical to the Work and
clearly used the Work as its basis. [Give a few examples that illustrate
direct copying.]

As you neither asked for nor received permission to use the Work as the basis
for [name of infringing work] nor to make or distribute copies of same, I
believe you have willfully infringed my rights under 17 U.S.C. Section 101 et
seq. and could be liable for statutory damages as high as $100,000 as set
forth in Section 504(c)(2) therein.

I demand that you immediately cease the use and distribution of all
infringing works derived from the Work, and all copies of same, that you
deliver to me all unused, undistributed copies of same, or destroy such
copies immediately and that you desist from this or any other infringement of
my rights in the future. If I have not received an affirmative response from
you by [date give them about 2 weeks] indicating that you have fully complied
with these requirements, I shall take further action against you.

Very truly yours,

----

Of course, it helps to be prepared to follow through on the threat of legal
action, and it helps even more to have this letter written in the third
person, by your lawyer, and sent on legal letterhead.

Best of luck. For some reason people on the 'net seem to think that artists
give up their copyright by promoting their work electronically. I guess it
falls to us to dissuade them from this idea one at a time.

--KR
http://www.omnigroup.com/People/cirocco/gallery/

camera

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Aug 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/24/97
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On Sat, 23 Aug 1997 19:52:47 -0400, Richard Callwood III
<rca...@uvi.edu> wrote:

>Dave wrote:
>> Did you copyright the images? Do you have a disclaimer on
>> them? I don't quite recall seeing your posts, but if you posted them
>> on the newsgroup, I THINK (I'm not sure) they become public domain.
>
>Pictures do not become public domain unless the copyright holder
>*explicitly* relinquishes his rights. Posting to Usenet does not void a
>copyright. (I think i read this in new.answers.)
Untill you give up all rights to your photos they belong to you
exclusively.

Steve Sosensky

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Aug 28, 1997, 3:00:00 AM8/28/97
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On Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:58:40 -0500, 124c41 <124...@isd.net> wrote:

>1. Put them on notice: write or call them and let them know that the
>images are your property, and may not be used without your permission.
>2. If they don't desist, have a lawyer friend write and make a demand
>that they cease and desist.
>3. Hire a lawyer to enforce your property rights.

I'd take this one step farther. I'd send them an invoice for usage of the
images. Make the price high. Be polite. Acknowledge their "oversight" of
failing to pay you for the use of the images. Give them 10 days to pay. If
you don't hear from them in that time, send another letter saying that
failure to pay will result in the invoice being turned over to your
attorney for prosecution under the US Copyright Act of 1976.


Steve Sosensky, photographer http://www.loop.com/~steves
10834 Blix Street #213 818-508-4946
Toluca Lake, CA 91602 34*09'02" N, 118*22'47" W
Audubon in So. California http://www.audubon.org/chapter/ca/socal
San Fernando Valley AS http://www.audubon.org/chapter/ca/sfvas

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