Techinque for blue skin and tint in fashion ads?

[Jeffrey Dunn]

What are the more common techniques used to make people blue in fashion ads
(except red lips and black)? Is it cross process or tungsten in daylight.
Please detail the techniques.
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[NESOP1]

Your guess about cross-processing is correct. Using tungsten film
under daylight / strobe would yield an image with an entirely
blue cast with no correct colors.

Although I'm not personally well experienced in the process,
several of my colleagues have worked with it. As the name would
suggest, you process the film you use in the wrong process.

You can run E-6 (slide) film through C-41 and get a negative.
Alternatively, you can process C-41 (color neg) film through E-6
process and get a transparency. Either way, you'll get a strange
color shift that seems to be a recent popular trend.

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[Lewisvisn]

In article <19990125225041...@ng-cb1.aol.com>, nes...@aol.commo
wrote:

>You can run E-6 (slide) film through C-41 and get a negative.
>Alternatively, you can process C-41 (color neg) film through E-6
>process and get a transparency. Either way, you'll get a strange
>color shift that seems to be a recent popular trend.

Not so recent... I saw a lot (actually too much of it) mindlessly
cross-processed fashion shots (just for the sake of mindlessly using
another/different technique) back in the very early 90's (roughly 90/91).
Experimentation is fine. Cross-processing can be an effective fashion/people
technique if you use it w/ sensitivity: if you have the right/appropriate
vision and the right/appropriate subject matter (Jose Picayo seems to do well
w/ the technique). But like other "gimmicky techniques" - or techniques that
get turned into gimmicks -(lightpainting, infrared, blacklight photography,
grainy photo-impressionism, Polaroid transfer, etc.) many photographers
(fashion, people, still life, otherwise) tend to abuse it w/ great success (in
misusing this technique without thought) rather than use it w/ great success.

That's my take on it... But then again the only blue faces that I've ever liked
were in Leibovitz's 1979 photo of the Blues Brothers - but that wasn't crossed
processed. Just color me (abbey (road)) normal :-).
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[SPECTRUM]

Why don't you simply use a blue filter ? I think most of what
you're seeing are duo tones shot on a B&W film like T400CN and
converted to duo tone in Photoshop.
Of course the old fashioned way of doing this was to use an
iron toner on the image. It wasn't particularly stable though,
especially when compared to other toned images such as sulfide or
selenium.

Regards,

John S. Douglas http://www.spectrumphoto.com
Darkroom formulas and facts. F.A.Q.'s Photo & computer links.
Professional portrait, bridal, stock and commercial photography.
WORLD FIELD PHOTOGRAPHERS ASSOCIATION

[SWIRAL]

All you have to do is shoot black and white film and get a c print with blue
filtration.

[SPECTRUM]

I completely forgot about that ! And the funny thing I have a
sample of one sitting right in front of me here on my desk ! Its' a
blue tone from a T400CN negative. Courtesy of Burrell color labs.
They also offer sepia ( a little to orange for me) and a
magenta tone as well as the usual B&W.

Regards,

John S. Douglas http://www.spectrumphoto.com
Darkroom formulas and facts. F.A.Q.'s Photo & computer links.
Professional portrait, bridal, stock and commercial photography.
WORLD FIELD PHOTOGRAPHERS ASSOCIATION

[zeitgeist]

Jeffrey Dunn wrote:
>
> What are the more common techniques used to make people blue in fashion ads
> (except red lips and black)? Is it cross process or tungsten in daylight.
> Please detail the techniques.

color infared?

[Jan Sandvik]

In article <78jbps$dnl$1...@holly.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, jeff...@earthlink.net says...

>
>What are the more common techniques used to make people blue in fashion ads
>(except red lips and black)? Is it cross process or tungsten in daylight.
>Please detail the techniques.

Try Agfa HDC100, exposed between EI32 and EI80.
Process in E-6 pushed 2 steps.
Nice blues and skintones...:)

-Jan

[Pete Dixon]

Tell your models that they're "trading out" for prints.

[Jerry Hammond]

In article <W3Or2.2359$md2....@newse2.tampabay.rr.com>,
ajac...@tampabay.rr.com says...

>
> >>What are the more common techniques used to make people blue in fashion
> ads

> >>(except red lips and black)? Is it cross process or tungsten in daylight.
> >>Please detail the techniques.
> >
>

> A suitable strangle hold held for five minutes will produce nice blue
> tones.......
>
>
>
Alan,
You're on a roll tonight, eh? LOL!!!
Jerry

[Alan]

[Peter Madeley]

If you want to see cross processing done properly IMHO, check out
Nick Knight's colour work.

FYI
For people in UK, Practical Photography did a review of the effect of
cross processing on studio portraits in July 98 p72-77. Kodak Elite
II rated at 50 and processed normally was the recommendation (for
back issues practical....@ecm.emap.com). When I tried Elite
II the results came back with a green cast on skin tones. I'll try
with FLD correction next time.
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