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Mamiya universal 35mm panoramic adapter

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Steve O

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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Does anyone know if there is a 35mm film panoramic adapter that will
fit inside a 6X9 roll film back for the Mamiya Universal Press camera?
Can I use the mamiya 6 adapter for this?


Dirk J. Bakker

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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I only know of a custom (not made by Mamiya) long roll back which uses
non-perforated 35mm film. But it is not panoramic.

Steve Dempsey

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Feb 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/4/00
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I was thinking about this myself, but for a different camera - wondering
if 35mm adapter is worth it ($300+, new?). I concluded it was not.
You're using the same lens but capturing only part of the scene. If you
just shoot 120/220 film, compose as if you only had 35mm (tape/mark your
focusing screen if you can't mentally compensate), and crop the print or
transparency, you will achieve the same result. That's how APS does its
panoramics, why not do the same with MF? Unless you want film that comes
only in 35mm or you do a lot of panoramics, or have money to burn and want

to carry yet another gadget, the adapter is unnecessary. Along the way
you might discover interesting stuff on the "extra" film exposed,
something
you'll never get back had you used the adapter.

-Steve

Steve O wrote:

> Does anyone know if there is a 35mm film panoramic adapter that will
> fit inside a 6X9 roll film back for the Mamiya Universal Press camera?

> Can I use the mamiya 6 adapter for this?


Mark Robertson

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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I was looking into this a while back, and found no commercial product Mamiya
or otherwise for this; however, I did think that the 35mm adaptor for a
Yashica 635 might be used along with a custom cut mask in the RFH. This
however leaves the problem of rewinding the film into the 35mm cartridge! (I
think a dark bag/room and unending patience could be the only answer here!).
Mark
Dirk J. Bakker wrote in message <389B9127...@mindspring.com>...

>I only know of a custom (not made by Mamiya) long roll back which uses
>non-perforated 35mm film. But it is not panoramic.
>

Either Dave or Janet

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2000 00:24:16 -0000, "Mark Robertson"
<mark.ro...@virgin.net> wrote:

> This
> however leaves the problem of rewinding the film into the 35mm cartridge! (I
> think a dark bag/room and unending patience could be the only answer here!).

I've made up a panoramic adaptor for my RB67 out of a bit of
cardboard (holds the film flat and masks it) and some bits of plastic
to hold the 35mm cannister in place, and some more bits of plastic
superglued to a 120 spool as a guided takeup spool. It worked
reasonably well but I got sick of it as I only have one back (thus
preventing me taking 6x7 until I finish the 35mm), and it's just as
easy to just crop a 6x7 exposure anyway. 24x68mm transparencies look
really cool but they're not worth the bother as far as I'm concerned.

Anyway, rewinding the 35mm film wasn't too difficult. I hacked a
dead plastic pen up so it would stick into the 35mm cannister to make
rewinding easier. I used a dark bag to do this, and never had any
problems.


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maxel

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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Hello,

> You're using the same lens but capturing only part of the scene. If you
> just shoot 120/220 film, compose as if you only had 35mm (tape/mark your
> focusing screen if you can't mentally compensate), and crop the print or

Although not real familiar with the Universals... if the roll-film back has a
dark slide, you may be able to cut a spare slide in half on the long
dimension. This way, insert the slide, expose bottom half, insert slide
upside down, expose top half. This way you could get two "3x9" exposures on a
"6x9" frame. Not perfect since neither exposure is centered, but may work.

cheers,


Tomoko Yamamoto

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Feb 9, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/9/00
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Steve Dempsey wrote:
>
> I was thinking about this myself, but for a different camera - wondering
> if 35mm
> adapter is worth it ($300+, new?). I concluded it was not. You're using

> the same
> lens but capturing only part of the scene. If you just shoot 120/220
> film, compose
> as if you only had 35mm (tape/mark your screen if you can't mentally
> compensate),
> and crop the print or transparency, you will achieve the same result.

> That's how
> APS does its panoramics, why not do the same with MF? Unless you want
> film
> that comes only in 35mm or you do a lot of panoramics, or have money to
> burn
> and want to carry yet another gadget, the adapter is unnecessary. Along
> the way
> you might discover interesting stuff on the "extra" film exposed,
> something you'll
> never get back had you used the adapter.
>
> -Steve
>
> Steve O wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know if there is a 35mm film panoramic adapter that will
> > fit inside a 6X9 roll film back for the Mamiya Universal Press camera?
> > Can I use the mamiya 6 adapter for this?
Last fall, I used my regular Mamiya 6 with 120/220 film to try the
equivalent of the 35mm panorama size. It is doable, but I decided to get
a 35mm film panoramic adapter.

It was because my printer complained about having to crop to the custom
size on each of five or six reprints I had done. The 35mm film will be
cheaper than the 120/220 in the long run, and at the printing stage, it
is less time-consuming for the printer to get a print for you.

Last fall I bought one used adapter set with instruction sheet, but the
unit was defective. So I copied the instruction sheet and got another
(LN in a case in a box) unit in exchange. Then I found another one in
Japan at a much lower price. So I have an extra one available for
sale. I can also provide pictures of the unit and instructions free of
charge to anyone interested in learning about the 35mm panorama adapter
for the Mamiya 6 or 7. (Except for the mask size, I am pretty certain,
the Mamiya 7 panorama adapter is the same as the one for the 6MF).

--
Tomoko Yamamoto
mailto:tom...@charm.net
http://www.charm.net/~tomokoy/

Redmond Young

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Feb 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/10/00
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>Last fall, I used my regular Mamiya 6 with 120/220 film to try the
>quivalent of the 35mm panorama size. It is doable, but I decided to get
>a 35mm film panoramic adapter.


Are you saying that the Mamiya 35mm panoramic adapter will fit and work
properly inside the original Mamiya 6 ? (without the framelines in the
viewfinder of course). I have the Mamiya 6, not the 6MF. If this is
true, I might get one just for fun!


---

Regards,
Redmond


Tomoko Yamamoto

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Feb 10, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/10/00
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No, I did not say anything about the fit of the 35mm panorama adapter
inside the New Mamiya 6 (proper model name in Japanese to distinguish
from the old Mamiya 6). I was told at a couple of places that this
would work, but when I got my first unit of the 35mm panorama adapter, I
found that there are two parts at least needed to fit everything
correctly. A local repairman with the manuals of both of the 6s told me
that in his view this is too involved.

As far as I can tell, you need to replace the two bottom film spool
bearings (I don't know the proper English name for this) for the ones in
the MF. One has a groove like the battery cap and the other has a rewind
button. The film pressure plate should be set to 220.

In my case, I did not make a modification to my (New) Mamiya 6, but
bought a 6MF in Japan since I wanted to have a second body anyway.

You are welcome to try an extra set of the 35mm panorama adapter that I
have as long as you pay for it. If you don't like it, you can return
the unit to me for a full refund minus shipping.

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