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Contax G2 or Mamiya 7 ?

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Man Siu

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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Hello,

I own a set of Canon 35mm photo equipment (EOS 1n + several lens). Now I'm
considering to buy an additional set of camera and I'm thinking the Contax
G2 or Mamiya 7. I know that there are actually two different approaches
about these two cameras, except they are both a rangefinder camera. Also, I
know that the decision will be made depended on what I will go to shoot
(e.g. street snapshot, or landscape, etc), but I just want to ask some
comments or recommendation if you were me. Which one you would like to go
for ?


Best regards,
Man
Hong Kong

Jim Bisnett

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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I made that same decision just a few months ago. I chose the G2. Mainly due to
the size. The cost also influenced me, but not as much. I was lugging around
the Canon 630 with the 28-70 L and the 70-200 L. With flash etc it was just too
much some of the time. So I bought the G2 so I could carry around the camera
easily and have a 21, 45 and 90 mm lenses.

I also looked at the new fuji 645 rangefinders. If size matters and you
really want the larger neg that is also a good idea. The lenses are alittle
slow, but people say they perform well. the downfall with the fuji is the wide
angle nature of most of the versions. (no 90mm)

Jim

AIXMighty!

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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man siu,

it's a tough choice! if i were you, i'd pick the M7 though.

here's my views on the G2 and the M7 know that you already have the EOS 1n:

G2:
- one film format to take
- AF
- smaller body
- cheaper

M7:
- big negs/trans
- big body but light
- i have one :->


Orphy! :-)
Dallas, TX

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AACProfTed

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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I really an't understand why you are agonizing over this decision since, as you
already konw, these are two very different systems to do different things.
Myadvice would be to dump the Caonon stuf and get a full Contax G system
21,28,45,90 and an MF rangefinder. Forstarters I would recommedn eitehr the
Fuji GW670 or the GW690.

When I travel I pack all the contax gear noted above plus a flash and a Fuji
GW690 and a 001 series Gitzo Tripod with a small ball head and the ENTIRE setup
takes up less space and weighs less than the Canon gear I used to lug around
... oh yeah,mos important the optics are supurb

Ted
Ted Harris

Godfrey DiGiorgi

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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Actually, one thing I forgot to mention is the item that really pushed
me to buy a Contax G2... the availability of the Zeiss Hologon 16mm
super wideangle lens. :)

Godfrey

S. Gareth Ingram

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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Man Siu wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I own a set of Canon 35mm photo equipment (EOS 1n + several lens). Now I'm
> considering to buy an additional set of camera and I'm thinking the Contax
> G2 or Mamiya 7. I know that there are actually two different approaches
> about these two cameras, except they are both a rangefinder camera. Also, I
> know that the decision will be made depended on what I will go to shoot
> (e.g. street snapshot, or landscape, etc), but I just want to ask some
> comments or recommendation if you were me. Which one you would like to go
> for ?


The Canon gear will do things you can't with the other two systems, so
don't give that up until you find later on that you don't use it much.

I have not direct experience of either the G2 or Mamiya7, but I suspect
the optics are equivalent. It must surely come down to 35mm verses 6x7.

GI

Bill Kenner

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Dec 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/14/98
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I'm thinking the Contax
G2 or Mamiya 7. I know that there are actually two different approaches
about these two cameras, except they are both a rangefinder camera. Also, I
know that the decision will be made depended on what I will go to shoot
(e.g. street snapshot, or landscape, etc), but I just want to ask some
comments or recommendation if you were me. Which one you would like to go
for ?

> Man
> Hong Kong

Man,

I have both Contax G-1 and Mamiya 7. If I had to choose only one, the
Contax would get the nod for size and ease of use. The 90mm viewfinder on
the Contax magnifies and the viewfinder on the 7 stays the same wideangle
with a little box in the middle. I have trouble composing with the long
lens. Lenses for both are equally sharp for their respective sizes.

If you have specific situations, I can give you may opinion on each.

Good luck,
Bill Kenner

Man Siu

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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Thanks all your comments and I got valuable idea from all of you !


Best regards,
Man

Balazs Ujfalussy

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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Bill Kenner wrote:

> I'm thinking the Contax
> G2 or Mamiya 7. I know that there are actually two different approaches
> about these two cameras, except they are both a rangefinder camera. Also, I
> know that the decision will be made depended on what I will go to shoot
> (e.g. street snapshot, or landscape, etc), but I just want to ask some
> comments or recommendation if you were me. Which one you would like to go
> for ?
>
> > Man
> > Hong Kong
>
> Man,
>
> I have both Contax G-1 and Mamiya 7. If I had to choose only one, the
> Contax would get the nod for size and ease of use. The 90mm viewfinder on
> the Contax magnifies and the viewfinder on the 7 stays the same wideangle
> with a little box in the middle. I have trouble composing with the long
> lens. Lenses for both are equally sharp for their respective sizes.
>
>


Factor in the price of a 6X7 projector if you do that kind of thing.

Balazs Ujfalussy
b...@icx.net


Vincent Fennell

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Dec 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/15/98
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The formats are totally different. 35mm vs 6x7. If ultimate image quality is
required, there is only one choice, the Mamiya. If not , then the G2 is
superb as a rangefinder.
Man Siu wrote in message <752mj7$29...@hkpa05.polyu.edu.hk>...
>Hello,

OhShit

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Dec 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/20/98
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Man,

I own many different camera equipment systems (EOS, Leica M, Hassy, Mamiya7
and top-end P&S). I like to shoot street photography and portrait. My
photos mainly are involved with people.

If you want a system used for street photography, Leica M is the best for
this purpose. I tried my friend's G2 and it is not practical. It looks
fancy and expensive. For street photography, you want to carry a camera
that does not track attention.

I am a RF kind of photographer. I rarely use EOS and Hassy except I shoot
wedding for friends and relatives. Mamiya7 is just like a bigger size of
Leica M6 with more user friendly functions. If I were you, I would choose
Mamiya7 than G2. To me, G2 is an expensive toy rather than a practical
tool.

If you consider something less expensive, buy an older version of black
Hexar. It's one of my favorite camera.

Tony Chang
Taipei Taiwan

Man Siu 撰寫於文章 <752mj7$29...@hkpa05.polyu.edu.hk>...


>Hello,
>
>I own a set of Canon 35mm photo equipment (EOS 1n + several lens). Now I'm

>considering to buy an additional set of camera and I'm thinking the Contax


>G2 or Mamiya 7. I know that there are actually two different approaches
>about these two cameras, except they are both a rangefinder camera. Also, I
>know that the decision will be made depended on what I will go to shoot
>(e.g. street snapshot, or landscape, etc), but I just want to ask some
>comments or recommendation if you were me. Which one you would like to go
>for ?
>
>

DKFletcher

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Dec 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/20/98
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<<Man,

I own many different camera equipment systems (EOS, Leica M, Hassy, Mamiya7
and top-end P&S). I like to shoot street photography and portrait. My
photos mainly are involved with people.

If you want a system used for street photography, Leica M is the best for
this purpose. I tried my friend's G2 and it is not practical. It looks
fancy and expensive. For street photography, you want to carry a camera
that does not track attention.

I am a RF kind of photographer. I rarely use EOS and Hassy except I shoot
wedding for friends and relatives. Mamiya7 is just like a bigger size of
Leica M6 with more user friendly functions. If I were you, I would choose
Mamiya7 than G2. To me, G2 is an expensive toy rather than a practical
tool.

If you consider something less expensive, buy an older version of black
Hexar. It's one of my favorite camera.

Tony Chang
Taipei Taiwan>>

I'm not sure I agree. I own a ton of M Leica gear and have just bought a G2 to
play with. After using it for a short time (about a week) I'm thinking about
selling off some M gear to buy the full set Zeiss lenses. The Contax, with its
programability can be MUCH faster to use on the street than the M Leica. I
have not shot with the Mamiya but sure think the speed of the Contax is going
to be tough to beat. As far as its looks, if you really think it looks like an
expensive toy you can get the black kit for $2800.00 I think you you will look
less like a pro and go unknoiticed with the titianum body. It is a very nice
looking, and great feeling body with execelent optics.

DKFle...@aol.com


lemonade

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Dec 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/21/98
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In article <19981220004309...@ng31.aol.com>, dkfle...@aol.com
(DKFletcher) wrote:

> If you want a system used for street photography, Leica M is the best for
> this purpose. I tried my friend's G2 and it is not practical. It looks
> fancy and expensive. For street photography, you want to carry a camera
> that does not track attention.

> I'm not sure I agree. I own a ton of M Leica gear and have just bought a


G2 to
> play with. After using it for a short time (about a week) I'm thinking about
> selling off some M gear to buy the full set Zeiss lenses. The Contax,
with its
> programability can be MUCH faster to use on the street than the M Leica. I


Hmmm. I would think any kind of really expensive camera would attract
attention... as well as any other kind of camera that you are pointing at
someone.

As for speed, there are at least two elements: time needed to set up for
the shot, and time needed to take the shot once you have composed. I would
think in general, except for the former in constantly changing lighting
conditions, which are not the rule, the Leica would beat the Contax every
time. Take a meter reading once, set to hyperfocal, and have the shutter go
off exactly when you press the button.

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Godfrey DiGiorgi

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Dec 21, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/21/98
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> Hmmm. I would think any kind of really expensive camera would attract
> attention... as well as any other kind of camera that you are pointing at
> someone.

Depends upon how you comport yourself while carrying it. Most people
never notice what I have in my hands when I take their picture. I do
want them to notice me because I like to engage my subject, but whether
I use a Leica, a Rolleiflex*, a Contax or a Minox doesn't matter.

> As for speed, there are at least two elements: time needed to set up for
> the shot, and time needed to take the shot once you have composed. I would
> think in general, except for the former in constantly changing lighting
> conditions, which are not the rule, the Leica would beat the Contax every
> time. Take a meter reading once, set to hyperfocal, and have the shutter go
> off exactly when you press the button.

Having owned a couple of Leica Ms and now a Contax G2, there is no
significant difference in operational speed. If you're referring to the
fact that the Contax G2 has to drive the lens to the focus point,
there's a little more shutter lag but it's just about unnoticeable,
particularly if you've set the focus manually and locked a manual
exposure setting in. The built in motor transport is a bigger
differentiator: the Contax wins hands down over Leica M manually wound
or even with the relatively slow winder.

I like both cameras but prefer the Contax G.

Godfrey

* note medium format content... ;)

steve painter

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Dec 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/22/98
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I like to use my Mamyia 7 with the 43mm lens for street photography. The
lens is wide enough to get just about anything you point it towards, and you
can carry the camera off the shoulder with your finger on the shutter
release, and it's q-u-i-e-t! No one ever notices that their photo is taken.

S. Gareth Ingram

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Dec 22, 1998, 3:00:00 AM12/22/98
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And it uses up big pieces of film - what kind of 'hit' rate do you get
with this technique ?

GI

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