Point me to a NG Please?
Ted Battye
enterprise of photography, as opposed to the technical aspect? I'm just
finding the latter.
Thanks
Ted
roland.rashleigh-berry
rec.photo.technique.nature or just plain rec.photo
"Ted Battye" <ted.b...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:3D98DB07...@sympatico.ca...
Andrea
> enterprise of photography, as opposed to the technical aspect? I'm just
> finding the latter.
rec.photo.technique.art
rec.photo.technique.misc
rec.photo.technique.nature
rec.photo.technique.people
see u there!
Andrea
Mike
maintains several forums on technique and style, plus critiques of
photos and such.
Ted Battye
TB
zeitgeist
> Hi, anybody know any newsgroups with discussions on the creative
> enterprise of photography, as opposed to the technical aspect? I'm just
> finding the latter.
>
ask away.
John
Here's a copy of the charters for the rec.photo groups.
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Rec.Photo Charters & FAQ
CONTENTS:
(1) What is this document ?
(2) What are "newsgroups ?
(3) When did all of this start ?
(4) How many groups are there ?
(5) What rec.photo groups currently exist ?
(6) What are the group charters ?
(1) What is this document ?
This is an unofficial revision of the charters as posted by Bob Atkins along with some
information on the USENET and rec.photo groups specifically. Bob's original charters can be
seen in their entirety at http://bobatkins.photo.net/info/charter.htm
(2) What are newsgroups ?
The groups are part of what is called the USENET. Essentially they are a BBS (Bulletin Board
System) service that nearly every ISP (Internet Service Provider) provides but unfortunately they
also don't advertise. You can find just about any topic known to modern man in a USENET
group. If two or more people have a common interest, chances are there is a USENET group for
it !
(3) When did all of this start ?
The USENET is actually the predecessor to the WWW (World Wide Web). It was created
slowly in the late '70's as the Unix User Network. Initially it began a collaborative effort for
research and development by government, educational and large, private corporations such as
Tektronix
For more history of the USENET, I suggest looking at ;
http://www.google.com/googlegroups/archive_announce_20.html
http://www.vrx.net/usenet/history/
(4) How many groups are there ?
I'm not sure that anyone knows exactly how many USENET groups there are but currently my
system shows 32,120 though I'm certain the total number globally is more than 62,000. My ISP
has decided to "thin the heard" a little though I am surprised that they still carry so many as most
are in languages I don't begin to understand.
(5) What rec.photo groups currently exist ?
There are currently 22 groups. They are:
rec.photo
rec.photo.help
rec.photo.moderated (moderated)
rec.photo.darkroom
rec.photo.digital
rec.photo.film+labs
rec.photo.equipment.35mm
rec.photo.equipment.aps
rec.photo.equipment.films+labs
rec.photo.equipment.large-format
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
rec.photo.equipment.misc
rec.photo.technique.art
rec.photo.technique.misc
rec.photo.technique.nature
rec.photo.technique.people
rec.photo.marketplace
rec.photo.marketplace.35mm
rec.photo.marketplace.darkroom
rec.photo.marketplace.digital
rec.photo.marketplace.large-format
rec.photo.marketplace.medium-format
(6) What are the charters for each group ?
CHARTER: rec.photo.digital
Digital cameras, scanners, printers, software, PhotoCD
This group is for the discussion of all aspects of digital photography, including digital cameras,
scanners, image manipulation software, printers, and CD-ROM technology.
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it
is in any way related to photography . Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.technique.nature
Wildlife, landscapes, travel tips etc. This group is for the discussion of the techniques
involved in nature photography and other peripheral issues. It is not intended for discussions of
equipment except where a piece of equipment is directly related to some other technique issue.
Strictly equipment discussions should take place in the relevant equipment group.
Issues appropriate for this group would be ethics of nature photography, questions about
locations for nature photography, questions about how too most effectively *USE* equipment,
questions about projected flash techniques, questions about macro techniques, etc.
Examples of appropriate question involving equipment might be:
* What's the most useful fixed focal length lens for landscapes, 20, 24 or 28mm?
* Is a 300/4 or 400/5.6 lens more useful for wildlife work?
* Is mirror lock up really useful in nature photography?
* Is autofocus really needed for nature photography?
Inappropriate equipment related questions would be:
* Is the Canon 24/2.8 better than the Sigma 24/2.8?
* Is the Canon 300/4L better than the Sigma 400/5.6 APO?
* What's the best 100-300mm zoom lens?
* Does anyone have test reports on the Nikon 80-200/2.8?
All questions about specific items of equipment belong in the equipment groups. Tagging
on a nature comment such as "is lens A better than lens B - FOR NATURE WORK", does
*NOT* make them appropriate for the technique group!
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it
is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.technique.people
Portraits, figure studies, weddings etc. This group is for postings related to the
photography of people This includes portraits, figure studies, abstracts, nudes etc. It is not
intended for the discussion of equipment except as related to other issues of technique. Suitable
topics for posting would include lighting, posing, models, releases, wedding photography etc.
Examples of appropriate question involving equipment might be:
* What's the best focal length for portrait photography?
* Do I really need to move to medium format for weddings?
* Are soft focus lenses/filters really useful?
Inappropriate equipment related questions would be:
* What's the best 85mm f1.8 lens?
* Should I buy a Canon or Nikon system?
* Are Sigma lenses just as good as Zeiss lenses?
These latter three questions all belong in the relevant equipment subgroup. All postings made to
this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see news.announce.newusers for
guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of commercial advertisements or
other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related to photography. Binary
postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.technique.art
rec.photo.technique.art Issues of fine art, framing, display
This group is for postings related to art issues in photography. These would include what "art"
really is, discussions of particular photographs and what makes them art, mounting and displaying
pictures as art, fine art photography etc.
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related
to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.technique.misc
rec.photo.technique.misc - misc non-equipment posts about technique
This group is for the discussion of issues of technique which are not covered by any other
technique group. Such subjects might include sports photography, aerial photography,
architectural photography, scientific photography, photomicroscopy, copy work etc.
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related
to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.equipment.large-format
rec.photo.equipment.large-format - Large format cameras and lenses
This group is for the discussion of any issues related to large format equipment. Large format
cameras are normally taken to be those which record their images on individual plates, rather than
on roll film, and in which the image size is 4" x 5" or larger. Such cameras are often referred to as
"view cameras" and focusing is normally achieved by observing the image on a ground glass
screen, which is replaced by the photographic plate prior to exposure. "Plate" in this case refers to
either glass plates, or individual sheets of photographic film. The 4" x 5" specification above is not
intended to exclude cameras using smaller film size, should they possess the other characteristics
of "large_format" or "view" cameras.
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it
is in any way related to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.equipment.medium-format
rec.photo.equipment.medium-format - Medium format cameras and lenses
This group would be for the discussion of issues related to medium format equipment. Medium
format cameras are normally taken to be cameras in which 120 or 620 size roll film is used,
producing images in the range of 6cm x 4.5cm to 6cm x 9cm. The cameras used are typically
either single lens reflex, twin lens reflex or scale (or rangefinder) focusing. The discussion of
panoramic cameras using 120 film size would also be appropriate for this group.
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related
to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.equipment.35mm
rec.photo.equipment.35mm - 35mm cameras and lenses
This group is for the discussion of all aspects of 35mm camera equipment. This includes 35mm
SLR camera bodies and lenses, 35mm point-and-shoot cameras, 35mm rangefinder cameras,
35mm scale focus cameras and 35mm half-frame cameras.
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related
to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.equipment.misc
rec.photo.equipment.misc Other formats, tripods, projectors, bags etc.
This group is for the discussion of equipment not covered by any other equipment group. This
would include tripods, projectors and screens, camera bags, lighting equipment, batteries, flash
equipment, light meters, filters. Equipment related to digital photography or home darkroom use
should be posted to either rec.photo.digital or rec.photo.darkroom respectively, rather than in this
group. Postings about cameras not covered by the other equipments groups (e.g. subminiature)
may be made in this group. Postings about movie cameras using film (but not video cameras,
which are covered in the rec.video groups) would also be appropriate.
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related
to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
CHARTER: rec.photo.equipment.film+labs
rec.photo.equipment.film+labs Film and commercial photofinishing
This group is for the discussion of photographic film of any format and type. It is anticipated that
the discussions will concern the imaging characteristics of the film and conditions under which
each film type of film will give optimum results. This group is also for the discussion of
*COMMERCIAL* photofinishing services, i.e. recommendations for and comments on
photo labs, It is *NOT* for advertising by such labs. Postings about film development related to
home darkroom use should be posted to rec.photo.darkroom, not rec.photo.film+labs.
All postings made to this group should conform to existing Usenet guidelines (see
news.announce.newusers for guideline documents). This group explicitly prohibits the posting of
commercial advertisements or other promotional material, whether or not it is in any way related
to photography. Binary postings (i.e. non text postings) are prohibited.
rec.photo.marketplace Trading of personal photographic equipment
rec.photo.marketplace will contain all "for sale" and "wanted" postings. These posting will be
restricted to the private sale of personally owned and used equipment. This newsgroup specifically
does *not* permit commercial advertising, postings by dealers selling or soliciting equipment, or
postings by amateurs regularly dealing in used equipment principally or incidentally for purposes
of financial gain. It is intended a forum in which photographers can sell, trade or request
equipment in connection with their individual photographic interests. Postings which receive no
replies should *NOT* be reposted for at least one week after the initial posting and should not be
repeatedly reposted without material change. Replies (other than factual corrections) should be
sent *only* by email and *never* posted in rec.photo.marketplace. Advertisers should include a
telephone number if possible in case there are problems with email connections (and email
problems are not unusual!).
rec.photo.darkroom Developing, printing and other darkroom issues
This newsgroup will contain postings related to all aspects of photographic darkroom use. As
such it will cover subjects such as the developing of slide and negative film, photographic printing
from negatives and slides, photographic toning processes and alternative chemistry. This
newsgroup specifically does *NOT* permit the posting of commercial advertisements for
products or services, even if they are related to photography.
rec.photo.misc General issues related to photography
This newsgroup will deal with postings on all subjects not specifically covered by the other
rec.photo newsgroups. Any and all postings concerning the recreational use of photography will
be appropriate for inclusion in this newsgroup. Such postings might include (but are not limited
to) announcements of photographic shows, requests for travel related photographic information,
book reviews, discussions of ethical issues, general discussions about the "death of photography",
discussion of the work of famous photographers, philosophy etc. This newsgroup specifically
does *NOT* permit the posting of commercial advertisements for products or services, even if
they are related to photography.
CHARTER for rec.photo.moderated
Rec.photo.moderated is a moderated Usenet newsgroup for the discussion of topics related to the
art and science of photography and that are of interest to the serious amateur recreational
photographer.
MODERATION CRITERIA
Articles must be relevant to the art or science of photography and of interest to serious amateur
recreational photographers, must be in reasonably good taste, and must conform to Usenet
guidelines. Suitable topics include: the technical aspects of photographic equipment, technique,
optics, film, photographic philosophy, ethics and conduct, photography as fine art, and
brief reviews of new products and announcements of events. Other topics may be accepted at the
moderators' discretion, with the main criterion being interest to serious amateur recreation
photographers.
Articles about topics usually associated with commercial/professional photography may be
accepted on a limited basis as long as they are relevant to serious amateur recreational
photographers. Thus, for example, postings regarding wedding photography may be accepted if
they meet the relevancy test, but articles regarding the business aspects of wedding photography
are not acceptable. Advertising is prohibited, except that brief notices of events, shows,
workshops, and the like will be considered if they relate to the art or science of photography
and are of interest to serious amateur recreational photographers.
Postings must bear the submitter's real name and contain a valid reply address. Authors that are
affiliated with or have other financial interest in manufacturers, distributors, or service
providers must disclose this fact in postings mentioning those products or services.
Picture (binary) postings are not accepted.
The moderators reserve the right to cut off the discussion of a topic when its "signal to noise
ratio" has dropped too low and reject postings on recently discussed topics. They will also
normally reject postings comparing or seeking comparisons of equipment, "what xxx should I
buy?" and "me too" postings, and postings asking questions the author could have answered for
himself/herself with a minimal amount of work. Flames will be rejected. Postings may be rejected
because of inappropriate crossposting, and postings to multiple moderated groups will normally
be rejected. (Approved FAQ's, RAD's, and CFV's are a special case.)
Regards,
John S. Douglas
http://www.darkroompro.com