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Apple II GS

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Jun 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/29/00
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If you do a search forages"Field Cameras Wisner v. Zone VI v.
Wista " you should find 36 messages.


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Paul M. Lavelle

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I am about to buy a 4x5 field camera, and am considering the wood cameras by
Wista or Wisner, or a Toyo Field 45AX. Can anyone let me know their
personal experience with any of these. I have rejected the Zone VI based on
various posts here mentioning its inconsistent quality of manufacture.

Thanks,

--
Paul M. Lavelle

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In article <kJT65.10346$W35.3...@news20.bellglobal.com>,

DING!!! DING!!! DING!!!!

All Right, Gentlemen, Marquis of Queensbury Rules, No Eye Gouges, No
Biting, Kicking and no references to brands with which you have NOT
personally used to expose at least 1 box of film.

Personally, I'd advocate USED!


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Before you buy.

Lars Michael

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Paul M. Lavelle <lav...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I am about to buy a 4x5 field camera, and am considering the wood cameras by
> Wista or Wisner, or a Toyo Field 45AX. Can anyone let me know their
> personal experience with any of these.

Check www.camerareview.com for tons of personal reviews.

I own the Toyo 45AX. I'm very happy with it. It is very
rugged, but has limited shift/rise and one has to unmount
the lens before folding up and packing the camera. I know
some pro nature photographers use the Toyo 45A(II/X), so
it can't be all that bad ;-)

The Wista has more front shift and rise, but unfortunately
appears to be more fragile. (I checked the Toyo and the
Wista side-by-side in the store. The Wista was right out of
the box, buyt alreayd had a loose knob.

I suggest you check out the cameras of choice at a local
camera store, and see which one you like best.

Should you decide for the Toyo 45AX, go buy the folding
focussing hood, During transport it works great as a
protective cover for the focussing screen.

The Toyo currently has a great mail-in rebate for a
compendium lens shade - usually a $400 item at B&H.

Lars

Jess4203

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Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
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Paul:

No experience with any of these, but, given recent comments on this list, why
not consider the Ebony, and especially the Canham and Phillips?

Roy

Jess4203

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Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
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Paul:

Almost forgot -- the Lotus, too. You can find a link to the website of a
dealer in UK with lots of info on them through skgrimes,com

HTH,
Roy

George Huczek

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Jun 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/30/00
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Where are the archives kept for doing this search?

SlberFuchs

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By now you are getting the idea that there are many more camera choices for you
to consider than just the original three. Some of the things you should keep
in mind which have not been mentioned are:

1)Bellows draw. The very compact Wista DX and Toyo and Tachihara all have
rather limited bellows draw that will restrict yoru use of longer lenses.

2) Bellows compression and/or ability to use recessed lensboards or
interchangable bellows. With the exception of tje Phillips thin bellows model
most will require a bag bellows for lenses shorter than 90mm. Soem even for
the 90.

3) Weight. should actually be 3 through 103! If you have any intention of
backpacking or moving more than a few feet fromyoru car with your field camera
then this is a consideration. you will find that the various choices range
from around 3.5 lbs to close to 10 lbs.(Phillips, Wista DX, Canham DLC, Wisner
Expidition, Zone VI Light at one end and Gandolfi Variant, Linhof, Wista metal
adn moe at the other).

4) Ease of operation and setup, especially in extreme weather conditions. This
is somewhat subjective but in the dead of winter you will find a few that are
much easier to work with wearing mittens (e.g. the Phillips).

5)Type of back available. Some of teh lighter weigh offerings have very
compact spring loaded backs that will only take a Polaroid back with difficulty
and will not take most rollfilm backs.

6) One of the earlier posters already mentioned movements and if you are
interested in architecural work this is important. The variety of movements
differs greatly among field cameras with only a few offering the 'full range'
of movements available ona monorail.

Having said all that I am going to try and list the cameras that have not been
mentioned to my recollection in the earlier posts that you might want to look
at and suggest that you go to the large format web page to see brief
descriptions of each: Walker, Gandolfi, Silvesteri, Tachihara, Horseman, Linhof
.. and probably a few more I have forgotten. Also keep in mind that new
offerings range in price from a low of 600-700 to over 3000. There is also a
vast range of used offerings that you might want to consider for starters. In
addition to all the above mentioned cameras don;t rule out any of the press
type cameras (Graphic, Busch, etc.) and older B&J cameras among many that may
set you back way under 500.

Finally, when I went on my quest to replace my Wisner 5x7 Classic Convertible
with a lightweight rigid camera with maximum flexability I ended up with a
Phiullips. For me it is the most ergonomically designed, offeres the most
flexability and is rigid with lenses up to 300 mm.

Cheers,

Ted

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Cheers,

Ted

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Frank Filippone

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Buy the Wisner......Tech Field. You will not be disappointed.......I
wasn't.

New, about $1850 from Mid West Photo. Used, about $1400.

Frank

Carlos Herrera

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Don't overlook the fine Lotus cameras from Austria. I can use a 24"
Artar (610mm) with mine. Try that with a Zone VI or a Wisner....!
Midwest Photo has/has a used (9) for $1800 or so. I feel the
craftsmanship of my Lotus surpasses that on the various Wisners and
Zone VI's I have owned. I haven't seen another wooden camera with such
smooth focusing. It is really unreal. Dollar to Euro ratio is
favorable for US buyers right now.

http://www.lotusviewcamera.at/lovica_4x5_e.html

CH


"Paul M. Lavelle" wrote:
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> I am about to buy a 4x5 field camera, and am considering the wood cameras by
> Wista or Wisner, or a Toyo Field 45AX. Can anyone let me know their

> personal experience with any of these. I have rejected the Zone VI based on
> various posts here mentioning its inconsistent quality of manufacture.
>

Carlos Herrera [reposted because of HipClone cancel]

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CH

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