Is it outsider art? Is it just a bad dream? Estimated to go for -whaaat-?
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/20-Vintage-Crown-Pacemaker-Speed-Graphics-Camera_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106003320QQrdZ1
Or the extremely rare and in high demand 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 Speed Graphic:
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/13-Vintage-Graflex-Pacemaker-Speed-Graphic-Camera_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106003246QQrdZ1
Will the Polaroid 80 reach it's $500 estimate?
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/291-Polaroid-Land-Camera-Highlander-Model-80-Box_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106005003QQrdZ1
Has all contact with reality been lost?
http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/292-Streamlined-Modern-Ray-Gun-Shaped-Pliers-c1930s_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106005010QQrdZ1
Are they worth less in working condition?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Panduit-GS2B-wire-tie-gun-electrical-aviation-tool_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ26436QQihZ004QQitemZ140109012762QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
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Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters
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Richard Knoppow
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Why? Are they hoping for a windfall, like a customer that just HAS to
have that particular item (and assume they'll make up for all the other
listing fees)? Or are they trying to "establish a price" for some
reason? I don't get it.
darkroommike
I saw a Fluoro Ektar the other day, about 111 mm, claiming since the
only xrays negs seller has seen are about11x14 it should cover that.
B.R.A.N. ? (brown ring around neck)
Murray
> Some of the LF lens descriptions on eBay are just despicable right
> now.
And some are actually 35mm or medium format lenses, but the seller knows
nothing about photography and lists them in the improper category.
Rich
That's why the good sellers there are so refreshing. My favorite is
"dagor77", the name stemming from his practice of starting all auctions
at 77 cents. His descriptions of his wares are delightful (and he has
really good stuff to sell).
Strangely enough, eBay shows him currently with no items for sale:
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZdagor77, even though
his feedback shows plenty of current transactions. Dunno what's up with
that.
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Richard Knoppow wrote:
Lust no more; sheet film is still available for the 3x4. Efke
(Adox)film is available through Fotoimpex
<http://www.fotoimpex.de/anglicus/index.html> in Germany. J and C Photo
<http://www.jandcphoto.com/JandC/update.htm> carried it in the US but
right now they are shut down and in the process of moving to Las Vegas.
I have 5 of them, 1 Speed, 2 Crown and 2 SLRs. Use them all the time.
And they are lighter and smaller, well worth the slightly smaller neg.
Cheers,
Bogdan
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> Lust no more; sheet film is still available for the 3x4. Efke
For those who care, J and C Photo also sells Efke/Adox/JandC Classic sheet
film in 2-1/4"x3-1/4", too. I use that with my Crown Graphic and Galvin. And
I bought 5 boxes of HP5+ in that size just before Ilford stopped producing
it. So I've enough sheet and roll film to last a while.
As an aside, there is enough size difference between the English unit
cut sheet film (2-1/4x3-1/4") and the 6x9cm images on a roll of 120 film
that two different size negative holders are required. The roll film is
about 5mm wider than the sheet film, and the latter falls through the
carrier for the former size.
Rich
It's a piece of 'found art' now: the seller is an art & antiques
gallery.
As art it is worth far more than it ever was as "just" a camera.
As a working camera it's a disaster. I'm sure someone loved it --
one can find someone to love anything; The gallery is
sure hoping so.
The original questions was "outsider art" - not "found art":
was it made to be art?
One needs to discriminate found art, found object art,
art to be found, outsider art and bad art.
found art: the seminal Duchamp's urinal (ooooh, _very_ bad pun)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/entertainment/4059997.stm
Photography is a form of found art where the artist
takes a mechanical visual reproduction of the found
object and not the object itself.
found object art: arraigned collections, weldments, collage..
http://arts.ucsc.edu/sesnon/exhibitions/sanditamny/07.ingodwetrust.html
art to be found: only since the 60's, might have been the drugs
http://www.found-art.com/index.php
outsider art: the more decrepit the artist the more valuable the work;
often judged by psychiatrists rather than art critics. Many
variations
http://www.artbrut.com/
bad art: what more can one say...
http://www.museumofbadart.org/
2) J&C: I haven't verified in the last month, but J&C closed due to
"circumstances beyond their control" and relocating to Las Vegas or
elsewhere in Nevada. They estimated they will be open in September.
Meanwhile, I found that Digital Truth is now selling some of the same
sheet film products J&C were (minus the J&C labeled products).
Murray
>It's a piece of 'found art' now: the seller is an art & antiques
>gallery.
My wife didn't count my rosewood Wista 45DX against my "camera quota,"
since it's normally on display as an object d'art. The 4 lenses took
a little more explaining...
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> My wife didn't count my rosewood Wista 45DX against my "camera quota,"
> since it's normally on display as an object d'art. The 4 lenses took
> a little more explaining...
Will Grimes remount an Apo-Sironar in a filigreed brass barrel?
>Will Grimes remount an Apo-Sironar in a filigreed brass barrel?
If they won't, I can recommend someone who will, but it's not that
hard to find a near-antique display lens. It's on my "to do" list,
just behind doing some silver polishing.
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:23:42 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <s...@sig.com>
> wrote:
> >Will Grimes remount an Apo-Sironar in a filigreed brass barrel?
> ... it's not that hard to find a near-antique display lens ...
The objective was to mount a new objective in the mount for an
old brass objective to overcome the objections of the
Current Significant Other by claiming the resulting object
to be an objet d'art for the decoration of the house.
Until the CSO knocks out the Apo glass and converts the barrel
to a flower vase.
> The objective was to mount a new objective in the mount for an
> old brass objective to overcome the objections of the
> Current Significant Other by claiming the resulting object
> to be an objet d'art for the decoration of the house.
So rather than lose the advantage of a modern shutter, have one
lens for display and one (or more) for shooting. It's a _lot_
easier to hide a lens than a 4x5 (or 8x10") camera.
Here's a shot of mine with the 180mm Nikkor mounted on the
wooden lens board:
http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/User_files/438bcf1b48aea209.jpg
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Darkroom Automation: F-Stop Timers, Enlarging Meters
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n o lindan at ix dot netcom dot com
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So, what did they go for? Is human stupidity truly infinite?
Homemade sheetmetal covered Graphic camera of some sort: $600
> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/20-Vintage-Crown-Pacemaker-Speed-Graphics-Camera_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106003320QQrdZ1
Or the extremely rare and in high demand 3 1/4 x 4 1/4 Speed Graphic: $600
> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/13-Vintage-Graflex-Pacemaker-Speed-Graphic-Camera_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106003246QQrdZ1
Will the Polaroid 80 reach it's $500 estimate: Topped out at $50
> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/291-Polaroid-Land-Camera-Highlander-Model-80-Box_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106005003QQrdZ1
Used $10 used nylon cable tie strapping gun, gun is c. 1985 in Dennison
catalog: $200
> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/292-Streamlined-Modern-Ray-Gun-Shaped-Pliers-c1930s_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQihZ015QQitemZ250106005010QQrdZ1
Infinite, truly infinite.