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Rogue Vorlon

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Sep 11, 2002, 8:20:45 PM9/11/02
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Is there a camera that provides both digital images as well as film?

I think a few years ago Kodak has some attachment that was big and heavy but
not sure if this did both or not.

Thanks in advance!

RV


Al Denelsbeck

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Sep 11, 2002, 9:04:32 PM9/11/02
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Never, to the best of my knowledge, but a vaporware company advertised a
digital insert that could go where 35mm film and cartridge were. Never
appeared.

There were/are some digital backs for both some high-end 35mm cameras
and for medium format. The 35mm backs were not easily interchangeable. Canon
and Nikon both opted to just package the whole thing as one, and I think
Kodak joined Nikon, marketed under either name for the same camera.

However, any film camera, and any film scanner, will accomplish the same
thing. Not as quickly as you might like, but cheaper and with far greater
resolution.

- Al.

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Mxsmanic

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Sep 12, 2002, 2:42:50 AM9/12/02
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Medium- and large-format cameras often have interchangeable backs, allowing
you to shoot either film or digitally. I don't know of any 35mm-style
equipment that allows this, however.

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Ralf C. Kohlrausch

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Sep 12, 2002, 4:15:35 AM9/12/02
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> Medium- and large-format cameras often have interchangeable backs,
allowing
> you to shoot either film or digitally. I don't know of any
35mm-style
> equipment that allows this, however.
>
>

Well, there was a digital back for the Nikon F3. Or rather, there were
two: one for color and one for b&w. Both were just attached were the
normal filmdoor sits. But you had to carry a vcr-sized storage unit
around. And I mean a 1980's vcr. This handy combination provided you
with 1 or 1.3 megapixels. I don't know about shooting sequences,
prices, number of units manufactored, "film"speed etc.

hth

Greetings
Ralf C.

P.S.
Hey, guys, you forgot the German newsgroups de.rec.fotografie and
de.alt.rec.digitalfotografie ;-)


Steve Marshall

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Sep 12, 2002, 6:42:26 AM9/12/02
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> Is there a camera that provides both digital images as well as film?

Some large-format cameras can take digital backs, but these are *very*
expensive gadgets - up to tens of thousands of dollars. Only used by
the pros. I don't think there is any such thing for 35mm (yet).

T.P.

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Sep 12, 2002, 6:59:21 AM9/12/02
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"Rogue Vorlon" <Rogue_Vorl...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

>Is there a camera that provides both digital images as well as film?
>
>I think a few years ago Kodak has some attachment that was big and heavy but
>not sure if this did both or not.


There are strong rumours that (at least) one of the
major manufacturers is working on exactly this for
the next gestation of one of their top-end SLRs.


T.P.

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Sep 12, 2002, 11:01:44 AM9/12/02
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ste...@dialix.com.au (Steve Marshall) wrote:


You can buy a Horseman camera which accepts digital backs that are
designed for medium format cameras. It has a Nikon AI lens mount.

However, it is the case that most of these digital backs still have to
be used tethered to a PC, so the Horseman is first and foremost a
studio camera. You get about 10 megapixels from a 16 megapixel pack.


Optiker

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Sep 12, 2002, 11:26:13 AM9/12/02
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Here's the link... http://www.siliconfilm.com/, but the last update was 14
Feb 02, so it could well be dead by now. As also mentioned, res is not
really competitive at 1.3 MP, and can store 24 pictures. It's a CMOS device
and initially ISO 100, and for a limited group of cameras. I'd say they
missed their window of opportunity - probably vaporware.

Optiker

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Mike Lipphardt

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Sep 12, 2002, 11:50:23 AM9/12/02
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That was dead years ago.

Mike

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Mxsmanic

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Sep 12, 2002, 1:41:38 PM9/12/02
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> There are strong rumours that (at least) one of the
> major manufacturers is working on exactly this for
> the next gestation of one of their top-end SLRs.

I long ago started directing rumors to the bit bucket. Today I believe on
what is on the shelf at the store with a price tag on it.


Ron Andrews

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Sep 12, 2002, 5:34:57 PM9/12/02
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Kodak has a preview ADVANTiX camera that has a LCD screen to view the
image you just exposed on APS film. There is no way to get the digital image
out of this camera.

http://www.kodak.com/cgi-bin/webCatalog.pl?section=&cc=US&lc=en&product=KODA
K+ADVANTIX+Preview+Camera

Kodak announced and then retracted a film + digital camera combination.
Apparently they couldn't get a design with costs low enough to be feasible.


Boogy Boogy

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Sep 12, 2002, 7:59:05 PM9/12/02
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> "Rogue Vorlon" <Rogue_Vorl...@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message
> news:x5Rf9.9912$TX5.3...@news1.east.cox.net...
>> Is there a camera that provides both digital images as well as film?
>>
>> I think a few years ago Kodak has some attachment that was big and
>> heavy
> but
>> not sure if this did both or not.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> RV

http://www.siliconfilm.com/

As far as I can tell, they went out of business. I watched these guys
years ago when they first started as ImageK, but for whatever reason, they
gave up.

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