Kodak Portra film: refrigerate?
Carey L. Huff
famed Kodak Portra 160 vc. Here is my question- @ the store it was in
cold storage. When I got it home I dropped it in the refrigerator.
Is this the right thing to do or am I foolish?
Thanks (again) for the help you all provide.
MK
Mike
Koen Beets
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Koen
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RB
> famed Kodak Portra 160 vc. Here is my question- @ the store it was in
> cold storage. When I got it home I dropped it in the refrigerator.
> Is this the right thing to do or am I foolish?
I do it, but remember to take the films out some hours before using it, to
make performance right, and of course to prevent condensation.
Rune
Steve
20 minutes in your pocket in the cannister in the box works just fine.
Steve
Alan Browne
(but do leave it in a cool dry place...)
Remove from fridge half an hour before loading into the camera.
(On the other hand, I've gone from fridge to camera immediately and never
suffered any ill effects).
Alan
Roro75
it in it's canister while it's warming up, do not take it out of the canister.
Koen Beets
800 which she just got from the refrigerator. For no apparent reason she
opened and closed the canister a couple of times. I kindly refused to
purchase that particular roll.
Koen
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THOMAS V DELROSARIO
that make a difference?
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Steve
>Koen
Taking it out of the canister will not ruin it - but you will have to wait
until the condensation dries off the canister and leader. What's inside is
sealed from the moisture and won't be ruined.
Steve
scott
film 'fresh' and will be fine for use at least until the indicated shelf
life marked on the box. Any film that is designed as a professional film
should certainly be stored in the fridge, as this film is intended for use
within a short time of purchase. General consumer film though, will have a
longer shelf life and will get away with not being stored in the fridge.
But it can't hurt either.
Ray Bowers
>Yes. remove it from the frig 1/2 hour before using it and make sure you LEAVE
>it in it's canister while it's warming up, do not take it out of the canister.
>
Why do you recommend leaving the film in the cannister while it warms
up?
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Rui Alberto
I'm just a beginner and i've seen several times that we can't take the film
out of the canister befor it warms up. But what will happen if we do??
Thaks in advance
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is sealed in the container, but will it is left open.
Steve
>hi there
>I'm just a beginner and i've seen several times that we can't take the film
>out of the canister befor it warms up. But what will happen if we do??
>Thaks in advance
The film will develop a green ooze. If left in your pocket, it will creep to
your skin and enter in through your pours. After this point, its all over. 5
years down the road you'll have an urge to buy and EOS1V an post pictures of
dog poop and testicles on the internet.
Steve
Really, what happens is that it develops condensation which takes a long time
to dry. If you leave it in the cannister to warm up, it won't get
condensation while its warming. You'll be able to use it sooner.
Rui Alberto
the camera??thats mey question, and by the way, can we or can't we open the
cannister BEFORE putting it into the fridge?
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Stephen M. Dunn
$On 03 Apr 2001 11:43:36 GMT, ror...@aol.com (Roro75) wrote:
$
$>Yes. remove it from the frig 1/2 hour before using it and make sure you LEAVE
$>it in it's canister while it's warming up, do not take it out of the canister.
$
$Why do you recommend leaving the film in the cannister while it warms
$up?
To prevent condensation. If you take something out of the fridge,
condensation usually forms on it. If the film is in the sealed
canister, the condensation forms on the outside of the canister, where
it's harmless. If the film is not in the sealed canister, some
of the condensation may form on the film itself, and you don't
want it there.
The air in the canister is of low humidity and should not
cause condensation problems. If you plan on freezing or refrigerating
your film, you should keep the canister sealed if at all possible
until after the film has been removed from the fridge/freezer and
allowed to warm up to ambient temperature.
For more info on the proper storage of film, go to Kodak's
Web site and look for document E-30. This document contains
Kodak's recommendations for storage and handling of film and
papers, both before and after processing.
BTW, with regard to the original question about Portra, here is a
direct quote from the datasheet, also available from Kodak's
Web site:
> Store unexposed film at 70F (21C) or lower in the original sealed
> package. For extended periods, store film at 55F (13C) to preserve
> consistency.
> To avoid moisture condensation on film that has been refrigerated,
> allow the film to warm up to room temperature before opening the
> package.
(The datasheet also includes a table giving typical warm-up times.)
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Steve
>right, tere will be a condensations, but will it ruin the film??will it ruin
>the camera??thats mey question, and by the way, can we or can't we open the
>cannister BEFORE putting it into the fridge?
>thanks
Always leave it in the cannister until you're ready to use it. Why would you
want to put it in the fridge without the cannister? Condensation will not
ruin the film as it only affects the leader and the casing. However, you
don't want to put that in your camera, so you would have to wait for it to
dry - wiping it won't help.. This waiting is longer than the alternative -
leave it in the cannister to warm up.
Steve
Steve
>In article <3ac9e143...@news.erols.com> r...@bowers.com writes:
>$On 03 Apr 2001 11:43:36 GMT, ror...@aol.com (Roro75) wrote:
>$>Yes. remove it from the frig 1/2 hour before using it and make sure you
> LEAVE
>$>it in it's canister while it's warming up, do not take it out of the
> canister.
>$Why do you recommend leaving the film in the cannister while it warms
>$up?
> To prevent condensation. If you take something out of the fridge,
>condensation usually forms on it. If the film is in the sealed
>canister, the condensation forms on the outside of the canister, where
>it's harmless. If the film is not in the sealed canister, some
>of the condensation may form on the film itself, and you don't
>want it there.
The condensation will only form on the leader and the casing - neither of
which is harmful. But if you start using it in this condition, you'll have
lots of moisture on your film and in your camera - bad. Letting it warm up
after it has formed condensation isn't a nice alternative either - it takes a
long time for that condensation to dry. So keeping it in the can until it
warms up is the ticket. I usually put it in my pocket for a while.
Steve
Jerry Coffin
says...
> right, tere will be a condensations, but will it ruin the film??
Yes and no -- condensation normally forms as small droplets of water,
which will act like lenses when/if allowed to do so (I.e. light hits
them). IOW, if you take pictures while there's condensation, the
droplets will refract the light, and mess up your pictures. Other
than that, it's generally not a major problem.
> will it ruin the camera??
Most cameras don't like water very much, so it's clearly best to
avoid it if possible. At the same time, even cameras that get
severely dunked can usually get repaired afterwards. At least
condensation is normally quite _clean_ water, so it doesn't cause
major problems with corrosion and such, but (for example) if it gets
into electronics, it can cause fairly serious problems.
> thats mey question, and by the way, can we or can't we open the
> cannister BEFORE putting it into the fridge?
Yes, and it's actually a rather good idea to do so, but as you're
pulling the film out, you want to put the cap back on until the film
is back up to room temperature.
The reasoning here is fairly simple: unless you live in a dessert,
the humidity inside the refrigerator will normally be a lot lower
than outside of it. Opening the film cannister, and then closing it
just before pulling it out traps air inside that's low in humidity,
so no moisture can condense out of IT when you pull it out.
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MarkZ1000
To prevent moisture condensation on the film.
Mark Zimmerman, Chicago
Mrboffo08
Portra 400. Tell me about it. Thanks. RUSS. tHEY REFRIGERATE THE NEW
PROFEESIONALL FILMS TO PREVENT THEM FROM AGING.