F100 lens compatability
Gregory Kinney
F100...? What about a Kiron f/2 28mm (that is almost as old)? Thanks
Harvey Hawes
You can use any F-mount Nikon lens with your F100, including the Series
E lenses! It won't autofocus... Assuming that the Kiron 28mm is a nikon
mount, then you should be able to use it too.
The only thing to be careful of is mounting non-AI lenses on some newer
Nikon bodies. You might have to convert the lens first (costs about $30
- $50US). If you don't, you might "squish" the AI coupling on the camera
body (the little tab around the mounting ring that detects aperture info
from the lens). I can mount some non-AI lenses on my F70, if I'm
careful. Other than that, go nuts... it's one of the great things about
Nikon.
Be careful where you get your info from... for the ultimate Nikon info
page, go to www.nikonlinks.com.
HTH,
Harvey
Greg Kinney
>
> The only thing to be careful of is mounting non-AI lenses on some newer
> Nikon bodies. You might have to convert the lens first (costs about $30
> - $50US). If you don't, you might "squish" the AI coupling on the camera
> body (the little tab around the mounting ring that detects aperture info
> from the lens). I can mount some non-AI lenses on my F70, if I'm
> careful. Other than that, go nuts... it's one of the great things about
> Nikon.
This is actually what I was talking about. I figured they would fit, but I
read in the F100 manual, I think, that you shouldn't mount non-AI lenses on
it. And I am assuming that these older lenses are non-AI (?). AI means
computer controlled, doesn't it? I just wanted to make sure. It really is
not a big deal, since I already have a new 50mm, and I am going to get a
24mm or 20mm. For the money, it wouldn't be worth converting the Kiron 28mm.
I might keep them both to use on my FE, which nicely will take all of my new
lenses. Thanks.
gk
Mac Breck
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> >
> >
> > The only thing to be careful of is mounting non-AI lenses on some newer
> > Nikon bodies. You might have to convert the lens first (costs about $30
> > - $50US). If you don't, you might "squish" the AI coupling on the camera
> > body (the little tab around the mounting ring that detects aperture info
> > from the lens). I can mount some non-AI lenses on my F70, if I'm
> > careful. Other than that, go nuts... it's one of the great things about
> > Nikon.
>
> This is actually what I was talking about. I figured they would fit, but I
> read in the F100 manual, I think, that you shouldn't mount non-AI lenses
on
> it. And I am assuming that these older lenses are non-AI (?). AI means
> computer controlled, doesn't it?
N. AI is a way of indexing the meter to the lens maximum (wide open)
aperture. Both AI and AIS should work fine on the F100. Series E are AIS,
so they should work fine on the F100.
> I just wanted to make sure. It really is
> not a big deal, since I already have a new 50mm, and I am going to get a
> 24mm or 20mm. For the money, it wouldn't be worth converting the Kiron
28mm.
No, I'd get a 28 f/3.5 AI or AIS Nikkor. They're nice and can be had cheap.
The 24 f/2.8 AI or AIS is a good lens, as is the 18 f/3.5 AIS. I used to
have a 20 f/3.5 AI before I got the 18. I picked up a 28 f/3.5 AI Nikkor to
use with a lightweight system (FM2, 28 f/3.5 AI, 75-150 f/3.5 Series E).
> I might keep them both to use on my FE, which nicely will take all of my
new
> lenses.
The FM, FE, and all single digit F's (F thru F5 have a flip-up AI tab that
allows the mounting of non-AI lenses for use in stop-down metering, *not*
full aperture metering.
Using non-AI lenses is not convenient on AI bodies, but it *is* possible. I
stick with all AI/AIS lenses (no non-AI, and currently no AF). However, now
that I have an F4s, I ~may~ try an AF.
Mac
Harvey Hawes
Nikon you should be) you should really read up on the obscure Nikon
nomenclature. Have a look at www.nikonlinks.com, and the descriptions found on
B&H's site (www.bhvideo.com) <-- look under the Photo | 35mm | Nikon section for
the article.
Just to re-iterate an earlier post:
AI = Automatic Indexing: A mechanical way of letting the body know what
aperature the lens is set at. Lets you focus and compose at the max aperture,
then the camera stops down to the selected aperture after the shutter release is
pressed.
AIS = Automatic Index (as above) + Lens type signal notch. The signal notch (see
the figs on B&H) lets the body know that the aperture stopdown was linear.
Mainly used by older MF nikon (FA, etc). All autofocus lenses are technically
AIS lenses.
Series E lenses were the "last" of the manual focus Nikkors. They were cheap
versions of AIS lenses (and great lenses at that) that mostly lacked the "ears"
found on "true" AIS manual focus lenses. The ears were used as another method of
auto indexing (see the Nikon F).
non-AI lenses were the first Nikkor lenses. They lacked the coupling ridge found
on the AI, AIS and series E lenses. These are the ones to be wary of when
mounting them on your F100 (or any autofocus Nikon except the F4 and F5). You
should also be careful of you FE as well, it can't take non-AI lenses either. It
doesn't have the little flip-up tab that the F(x) series camera have.
Greg Kinney wrote:
> >
> >
> > The only thing to be careful of is mounting non-AI lenses on some newer
> > Nikon bodies. You might have to convert the lens first (costs about $30
> > - $50US). If you don't, you might "squish" the AI coupling on the camera
> > body (the little tab around the mounting ring that detects aperture info
> > from the lens). I can mount some non-AI lenses on my F70, if I'm
> > careful. Other than that, go nuts... it's one of the great things about
> > Nikon.
>
> This is actually what I was talking about. I figured they would fit, but I
> read in the F100 manual, I think, that you shouldn't mount non-AI lenses on
> it. And I am assuming that these older lenses are non-AI (?). AI means
> computer controlled, doesn't it? I just wanted to make sure. It really is
> not a big deal, since I already have a new 50mm, and I am going to get a
> 24mm or 20mm. For the money, it wouldn't be worth converting the Kiron 28mm.
> I might keep them both to use on my FE, which nicely will take all of my new
> lenses. Thanks.
> gk
Fred Whitlock
camera. The Kiron should be fine too.
--
Fred
Maplewood Photography
Gregory Kinney <gki...@u.washington.edu> wrote in message
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Todd & Sharon Peach
>
<<<<<<snip>>>>>>
> The FM, FE, and all single digit F's (F thru F5 have a flip-up AI tab that
> allows the mounting of non-AI lenses for use in stop-down metering, *not*
> full aperture metering.
The 'stock' F5 doesn't do this. I think it's available as a repair
center modification for $100-150.
-Todd
--
Todd & Sharon Peach
Seattle, Washington
tpe...@gte.net
http://home1.gte.net/tpeach/NoPlaceLikeHome.htm
Mac Breck
not include the $2 flip-up tab, and are charging $100-$150 to retrofit it,
when it should have been included in the first place?? My F4s, F3HP's,
F2AS, and F2A all had this standard.
Mac
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Mark Bergman
lenses that are more than 23 years old I would suggest you pop for the $25
to have them converted to AI.
"Mac Breck" <macb...@timesnet.net> wrote in message
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Mac Breck
"Mark Bergman" <mb5...@navix.net> wrote in message
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> Then don't buy it.
I won't. I'm happy with the F4s. However, that wasn't the point. The
point was that they should be maintaining backward compatibility in the F5
thru F line. Their top body should have this feature standard, from the
factory. I get the feeling that the bean counters overruled the engineers
here.
> And last time I heard it was only $45. If you have
> lenses that are more than 23 years old I would suggest you pop for the $25
> to have them converted to AI.
Yes, if you can find somebody to do it.
Mac