Konica Hexar or Ricoh GR1
yu...@my-dejanews.com
I decided to buy good comapct in addition to my Canon EOS system
What do you think is better buy - Konica Hexar Silver or Ricoh GR1?
Size doesn's matter very much, but flexibility does matter. The external
flash on Hexar is more powerfull than built-in Ricoh GR1, which is very
weak. I also prefer 35mm instead of 28mm. The advantage of GR1 is it's
price which is $110 less than Hexar.
Thanks in advance,
--Yuri.
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Jeff Tse
I had owned Gr1 and Hexar both at the same time but I sold the Hexar
after 3 months because to me SIZE does matter a lot. The Hexar with it's
flash is comparable with a EOS 50 or so and the lens, although great, is
fixed. I would rather take a Canon system compliment by a GR1. It's a
lot more easy on my shoulder and didn't attact that much attention since
the GR1 can be easily hide in the pocket.
Also, I prefer 28mm more than 35mm unless I am shooting
people-environment pictures.
Rgds,
Jeff Tse
Nick
>Hello,
>I decided to buy good comapct in addition to my Canon EOS system
>What do you think is better buy - Konica Hexar Silver or Ricoh GR1?
>Size doesn's matter very much, but flexibility does matter. The external
>flash on Hexar is more powerfull than built-in Ricoh GR1, which is very
>weak. I also prefer 35mm instead of 28mm. The advantage of GR1 is it's
>price which is $110 less than Hexar.
>Thanks in advance,
Seems to me like you've answered all your own questions. Spend the extra $110.
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dani...@netzero.net
The GR1 interface is more user friendly than that on the Hexar. Just try using
exposure compensation on both...for example.
In article <3716047C...@eagle.com.hk>,
Jeff Tse <jeff...@eagle.com.hk> wrote:
> Hi Yuri,
>
> I had owned Gr1 and Hexar both at the same time but I sold the Hexar
> after 3 months because to me SIZE does matter a lot. The Hexar with it's
> flash is comparable with a EOS 50 or so and the lens, although great, is
> fixed. I would rather take a Canon system compliment by a GR1. It's a
> lot more easy on my shoulder and didn't attact that much attention since
> the GR1 can be easily hide in the pocket.
>
> Also, I prefer 28mm more than 35mm unless I am shooting
> people-environment pictures.
>
> Rgds,
>
> Jeff Tse
>
> yu...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > I decided to buy good comapct in addition to my Canon EOS system
> > What do you think is better buy - Konica Hexar Silver or Ricoh GR1?
> > Size doesn's matter very much, but flexibility does matter. The external
> > flash on Hexar is more powerfull than built-in Ricoh GR1, which is very
> > weak. I also prefer 35mm instead of 28mm. The advantage of GR1 is it's
> > price which is $110 less than Hexar.
> > Thanks in advance,
Bill Schaffel
set the compensation I want; sounds pretty simple and user friendly to me.
Bill S.
JPMccormac
button to
>set the compensation I want; sounds pretty >simple and user friendly to me.
On the GR1 there's no select button to press to set exposure compensation -
you just turn the dial in the + or - direction to set it and it's always set
and always visible. This eliminates one step in the operation that's required
on the Hexar.
John P. McCormack
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/9273/gr1.html
Equality57
>I decided to buy good comapct in addition to my Canon EOS system
>What do you think is better buy - Konica Hexar Silver or Ricoh GR1?
>Size doesn's matter very much, but flexibility does matter. The external
>flash on Hexar is more powerfull than built-in Ricoh GR1, which is very
>weak. I also prefer 35mm instead of 28mm. The advantage of GR1 is it's
>price which is $110 less than Hexar.
>Thanks in advance,
>--Yuri.
I've got both. The Hexar is simply more capable and to my eye possessed of a
sharper lens. The GR1 is extremely convienient. Still if I had to pick, my
Hexar would win out.
David Bindle
>
> >On my Hexar I press the select button and >then use the up button or down
> button to
> >set the compensation I want; sounds pretty >simple and user friendly to me.
>
> On the GR1 there's no select button to press to set exposure compensation -
> you just turn the dial in the + or - direction to set it and it's always set
> and always visible. This eliminates one step in the operation that's required
> on the Hexar.
>
> John P. McCormack
Your right... it sounds marginaly easier... but try doing manual
exposure with the GR-1. Actually... in all fairness, I don't know a lot
about the GR-1. I'd probably enjoy the 1/500th more than the 1/250 limit
on the Hexar, but then, with the Hexar's incredibly simple tails out
operation, it's so easy to switch to slower, sharper, more saturated
film.
Can the GR-1 accept filters?
I've made some incredible flash photo's with the little HX-14 flash that
comes with the Hexar, but also with a Nikon SB-24 on an SC-17 cable
(with the Hexar).
AF correction for IR film is a dubious feature to me. I havn't used IR
film in my Hexar yet... but I suppose, some day I will (with a deep red
filter).
The two things I enjoy most about my Hexar is the 35mm f2 lens (I love
shooting at f2 and throwing the background out of focus) and... the
silent mode. I have the older all black model. I took my Hexar into the
camera store the other day and did a side by side comparison of the
Hexar Silver and and my older black Hexar set to silent mode. Big
difference. And with the silent mode... the film doesn't advance until
you lift your finger up off the shutter button. It's a shame that silent
mode had to be left off the newer Hexar. True... the new Hexars are
considered "quiet" but most new Hexar owners don't realize what they are
literally "missing" with the silent mode on the older Hexars.
Because of this feature... I would expect a used Hexar in good condition
(and that has the software update to include IR AF correction,
multi-exp., one touch manual etc.) to sell for as much (perhaps more??)
than the new ones.
(Maybe that's just wishful thinking on my part...)
D.B.
Robert A.
things you should know about the camera:
First, the lens has a wonderful quality to anything that's out-of-focus (so
called bokeh). It's also a full stop faster (f/2.0). The camera accepts
filters (which I doubt the GR1 does). It can also be programed to shoot IR
film, and will make the correct focus compensation. The AF works in total
darkness. You can manually override the exposure index and the exposure
compensation separately. You can rewind the film w/ the leader out if you so
choose. The viewfinder is really good, although it doesn't offer much
exposure information.
All in all, its a great camera.
Rober Ades
In article <7f4a5i$29g$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
yu...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> Hello,
> I decided to buy good comapct in addition to my Canon EOS system
> What do you think is better buy - Konica Hexar Silver or Ricoh GR1?
> Size doesn's matter very much, but flexibility does matter. The external
> flash on Hexar is more powerfull than built-in Ricoh GR1, which is very
> weak. I also prefer 35mm instead of 28mm. The advantage of GR1 is it's
> price which is $110 less than Hexar.
> Thanks in advance,
> --Yuri.
>
to...@my-dejanews.com
Robert A. <az...@lafn.org> wrote:
> The camera accepts
> filters (which I doubt the GR1 does).
GR1 does take filters via an optional filter ring to attach on top
of the lens.
Other potential advantages of Hexar I can't really argue against.
- Nobu Toge (to...@lcdev.kek.jp)