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Barry A. Scott

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Jul 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/21/99
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I have a Canon A-1 and an old Sunpak flash. A sales person in my local
photo store told me I could use the off camera shoe 2 cord with this
combination. Is this correct or will I end up frying something?

RMMM9999

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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Canon's Off Camera Shoe Cord 2 is made for the EOS cameras.

I do not know if this combo will work properly, but if the flash is dedicated
to your A-1, I wouldn't expect it to do any damage. Try it out in the store
before you plunk down any money.

If the flash is not dedicated to your camera, you would be just as well off
with a much cheaper PC type cord.

Since the A-1 doesn't have TTL flash metering anyway, you're not losing much by
using a non-dedicated flash and/or PC cord.

Richard

AE1REPAIR

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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The safest thing to do is to buy a used Canon flash designed for your A-1. You
can damage an IC with a flash which has too much voltage at its contacts.
Further, the Canon A series flash units automatically set the shutter speed to
1/60 (flash speed) regardless of the mode setting. There is a good article on
the subject in Popular Phtography's May 1999 issue.

Coachmcder

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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The shoe cord II is for autofocus flashes only, do not use it with an A1.

Beverly Robinson

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Jul 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM7/22/99
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I have a Canon A-1 and a 199A dedicated flash. I use the off camera cord
with this combo. The only difference is that there are more contacts on the
cord than the A-1 needs/uses, but the ones that count line up perfectly with
the hot shoe on the camera and the contacts on the flash. I have had
absolutely no problems with this. YMMV.
Beverly A.
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EdRegnier

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Aug 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/1/99
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I also have a Canon A-1 and a Canon dedicated flash and an undedicated flash.
The difference is the Canon flash can be used on camera or off camera with a
dedicated cord in the full program (lens and f-stop) mode.
The non-dedicated flash can be used on camera or off camera with either a
dedicated cord or pc cord with the camera in manual f-60 and lens set at flash
recommended setting. It is also a good idea that, if you use the flash with a
metal bracket and a plug in pc cord, that a piece of electrical tape or the
like be placed between the bracket and the flash's hot-shoe contact.
SUMMARY:
Dedicated....no thought required.
NON-dedicated.....thought required

Good shooting
Ed R.

S. Gordon

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Aug 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/7/99
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EdRegnier <edre...@aol.com> wrote:

> I also have a Canon A-1 and a Canon dedicated flash and an undedicated flash.
> The difference is the Canon flash can be used on camera or off camera with a
> dedicated cord in the full program (lens and f-stop) mode.
> The non-dedicated flash can be used on camera or off camera with either a
> dedicated cord or pc cord with the camera in manual f-60 and lens set at flash
> recommended setting. It is also a good idea that, if you use the flash with a
> metal bracket and a plug in pc cord, that a piece of electrical tape or the
> like be placed between the bracket and the flash's hot-shoe contact.

I'm in the market for an old Speedlite for my A-1. I visited B&H Camera
the other day and found both a used Speedlite 199a (the top of the line
flash for dedicated A-1 use) as well as a used Sunpak 600 (which is
something of a Speedlite clone).

The problem is that no one, anywhere, seems to have a duosynch cord
available that would allow me to hold the flash to the side (or put it
on a bracket). It seems that they're not being made any more, and that
either the existing ones are being used/hoarded or did not stand up over
time.

Does anyone know of supplies of a duosynch cord for the Canon A-1?


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Dave Herzstein

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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>The problem is that no one, anywhere, seems to have a duosynch cord
>available that would allow me to hold the flash to the side (or put it
>on a bracket). It seems that they're not being made any more, and that
>either the existing ones are being used/hoarded or did not stand up over
>time.
>
>Does anyone know of supplies of a duosynch cord for the Canon A-1?

You could buy an "Off Camera Shoe Cord 2", currently available
for EOS cameras. It will work just fine with your A1 and speedlite
AND work with the EOS camera that you will one day buy. ;-)
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Dave Herzstein
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S. Gordon

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Aug 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/9/99
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Dave Herzstein <dave.he...@juno.com> wrote:

> >The problem is that no one, anywhere, seems to have a duosynch cord
> >available that would allow me to hold the flash to the side (or put it
> >on a bracket). It seems that they're not being made any more, and that
> >either the existing ones are being used/hoarded or did not stand up over
> >time.
> >
> >Does anyone know of supplies of a duosynch cord for the Canon A-1?

> You could buy an "Off Camera Shoe Cord 2", currently available
> for EOS cameras. It will work just fine with your A1 and speedlite
> AND work with the EOS camera that you will one day buy. ;-)

That's great news if it's correct. Are you sure that all features of,
the Speedlite 199a for example, will work with this cord?

Dave Herzstein

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Aug 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/11/99
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>> You could buy an "Off Camera Shoe Cord 2", currently available
>> for EOS cameras. It will work just fine with your A1 and speedlite
>> AND work with the EOS camera that you will one day buy. ;-)
>
>That's great news if it's correct. Are you sure that all features of,
>the Speedlite 199a for example, will work with this cord?

I just tried a 199A, OCSC2 and AE-1; it works.

EdRegnier

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Aug 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/11/99
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>Are you sure that all features of,
>>the Speedlite 199a for example, will work with this cord?
>
>I just tried a 199A, OCSC2 and AE-1; it works.
>--

Yup, this cord works. It's more than you need but it's all that's available.
I guess my old cord is worth more than I thought.
Good Shooting
ED R.

S. Gordon

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Aug 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/11/99
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EdRegnier <edre...@aol.com> wrote:

> >Are you sure that all features of,
> >>the Speedlite 199a for example, will work with this cord?
> >
> >I just tried a 199A, OCSC2 and AE-1; it works.

>

> Yup, this cord works. It's more than you need but it's all that's available.
> I guess my old cord is worth more than I thought.

Thanks to all who replied. I guess this is the way to go. (Henry @ B&H
sent me email recommending that I contact the good people at Paramount
Cords, but they emailed me saying that they don't have a cord for the
A-1.)

So, how much is this mutha' gonna' run me?

Dave Herzstein

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Aug 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/12/99
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>>>I just tried a 199A, OCSC2 and AE-1; it works.
>>
>> Yup, this cord works...

>
>So, how much is this mutha' gonna' run me?

$48 at B&H

Bruce M. Binder

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Aug 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM8/19/99
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Barry:

> I have a Canon A-1 and an old Sunpak flash. A sales person
> in my local photo store told me I could use the off camera
> shoe 2 cord with this combination. Is this correct or will I
> end up frying something?

As other posters have stated, you should be able to use this
cord with your Canon A-1 and Sunpak flash and maintain the
flash dedication. However, this dedication will be limited to
firing the flash and having the flash automatically set the
camera's aperture and shutter speed. If you wish to maintain
the autoexposure control, you have a further problem. I don't
believe the A-1 supports TTL flash exposure so exposure is
controlled by a sensor in the flash. Once you remove the flash
from the hot shoe, the flash meter is pointing at a different
scene than the lens. If you don't care about that, a simple PC
cord will provide almost the same functionality as the Canon
Off Camera Shoe Cord. It won't allow the flash to set the
camera's shutter speed and aperture, but it will be cheaper and
easier to find.

If you want to preserve correct autoexposure, and your Sunpak
flash has a detachable dedicated module, you can get a
dedicated sync cord from Sunpak. This allows you to leave the
autoexposure sensor in the camera's hot shoe, pointing at the
scene to be photographed, while moving the flash tube anywhere
you want. See http://www.tocad.com/ for information on Sunpak
flash accessories. (I have no connection to Sunpak, but I did
use a Canon A-1 and Sunpak 422D for many years.)

Good luck,

(Change green to blue in my address to send me e-mail)
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