Ricoh R-1 or Rollei Prego Micron
charles k. wilber
The Rollei is a clone of the Ricoh but are there other differences?
Thanks, Chuck
Vasu Ramanujam
>charles k. wilber (charles.k...@nd.edu) wrote:
>: Does anyone know if the lens on the Rollei is greatly superior to the Ricoh.
>
>would strongly suspect that the ROLLEI uses exactly the same lens as it
>is a very unique aspheric design and it would not be worthwhile retooling
>it for the ROLLEI version of the camera.
Not sure this is true. The Rollei Prego Micron, from what I have read,
sports a Schneider AF-Courtagon lens. The lens on the Ricoh R1 says "Ricoh
lens 1:3.5 30mm macro, 24mm wide panorama." (I just looked, I have it on me
all the time :-))
Doesn't seem likely that Rollei would hang a Ricoh lens on its Prego Micron
and call it a Schneider AF-Courtagon. Doesn't seem any more likely that
Ricoh would hang a Schneider AF-Courtagon on its R1 but isn't allowed to say
so. Anything's possible, though.
The street price of the Rollei Prego Micron is slightly over twice the
street price of the Ricoh R1. I must assume it's for the German optics and
the Rollei name plate.
I agree that the Ricoh R1 is a fine performer at 30mm. I think it's pretty
good at 24mm as well, although Mr. Stowell may have used the 24mm setting
more than I have, and so, for the time, will defer to his opinion on that.
The Ricoh R1 is assembled in Taiwan. Where's the Rollei Prego Micron
assembled? Can someone look and tell me? I'm curious.
Vasu Ramanujam
Bob Salomon
<v...@po.cwru.edu> wrote:
To set the record straight Rollei pays a fee to Schneider for every Prego
sold as they use a Schneider lens.
Both cameras are made in the same plant in Taiwan.
Has anyone ever thought of this?
The camera was designed by Rollei and rights to sell and market a
variation were given to Ricoh?
Why must you all automatically assume that Rollei did the borrowing? Do
you think that because Rollei can design and manufacture the 6008 that
they do not have the ability to design a P&S?
I am not saying that Rollei designed this camera, we do not even know if a
Ricoh team designed the Prego or if it is the work of an independant
designer. But there are differences between the 2 other than the lens:
1: Weight - the Rollei weighs more as its front panel is thicker
2: Shape - the front of the Rollei has different contours than the Ricoh
3: Color - pne is black the other is not
Granted none of these are significant, the real difference is the optic
but they simply are not exactly the same camera.
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Thomas Zeggel
>I saw a posting in the medium format section that Rollei was no longer
>making the 3000 series cameras. Does anyone know if this is true? I
>have considerable $$ invested in a 3000 series setup and was wondering.
>
>Dale Marsh
As far as I know this is true. Some lenses are still available, for example a
mail order store here in Germany sells the 1.8/50 Planar for 59DM (approx 45$),
and also a few other lenses.
Thomas
Roger Urban EUC
>I saw a posting in the medium format section that Rollei was no longer
>making the 3000 series cameras. Does anyone know if this is true? I
>have considerable $$ invested in a 3000 series setup and was wondering.
>
>Dale Marsh
Alright, here's my nickle's worth:
Months ago I asked the same thing as I saw some used outfits selling for around
$1,500. Think it may have been Bob S. (Bob...@aol.com) at HP Marketing who
confirmed that it was no longer being produced. Rollei's future is in single
lens medium format. TLR mf has a very enthusiastic following, but the numbers
are much greater for the SLR mf. Too bad, as the TLR is one of the quietest
cameras ever made, easily riviling the Leica M6 and totally crushing it when it
comes to print blow-ups.
Rollei makes a great camera and those Zeiss lenses are no slouches. Perhaps
with the Samsung buyout, they'll have cash for expansion and some other new
products hitting market sooner. I kinda doubt they'll re-introduce the 3000
series again, but would be happy if they did.
Rollei has always lagged behind Hasselblad when it comes to marketing though as
evidenced by Hasselblads for sale in more stores everywhere, and I never could
figure it out. Hasselblad has many more reps and much more market share, and I
think it should be just the opposite. The Rollei cameras are better designed.
The 3000 series for 35mm and the 6000 series for medium format look related,
though I've never touched a 3000. The new 6008 Integral is loaded with
features, fast, has the best filmholders on the market (except they cost too
damn much) and in many ways idiot proof. Perhaps a new 3000 series with
technology borrowed from the 6008 Integral would help...(any comments by Bob S.
are welcome!)
Roger a#ur...@ccmail.ceco.com