fm2 vs fm2n
Carlos Carbajal
After much research I've decided to buy a used Nikon FM2(N?). I'm
confused about the difference between an FM2 and FM2N though. Is there
much difference. Should I go with an FM2 or should I focus on finding
an FM2N?
thanks in advance for the help
carlos
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Before you buy.
Jerry L.
body. If the FM2 you've been shopping has a trouble-free shutter,
it is a Nikon and should work. A bit newer model, the FM2N will also
work.
Your money, your choice...
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JBSDADDY
the fm2n's shutter speed dial has 250 marked for flash sync. a small
differance.
Mac Breck
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> The 'honey-comb' material in the shutter was improved in the FM2N
> body.
The titanium honey-comb shutter in the FM2 was replaces with an aluminum
alloy bladed shutter in the FM2n. I've never had trouble with the titanium
shutters in *any* of my FM2 bodies. The meter in one body, yes (twice), the
shutters, never.
Mac
Jim MacKenzie
"Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote in message
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> alloy bladed shutter in the FM2n. I've never had trouble with the
titanium
> shutters in *any* of my FM2 bodies. The meter in one body, yes (twice),
the
> shutters, never.
True of newer FM2ns, but not of all. My FM2n has the titanium shutter. The
change occurred in about 1989, but the FM2n was released in about 1983-84.
Jim
Mac Breck
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> "Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote in message
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> > "Jerry L." <ski2_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> > alloy bladed shutter in the FM2n. I've never had trouble with the
> titanium
> > shutters in *any* of my FM2 bodies. The meter in one body, yes (twice),
> the
> > shutters, never.
>
> True of newer FM2ns, but not of all. My FM2n has the titanium shutter.
The
> change occurred in about 1989, but the FM2n was released in about 1983-84.
FM2, Titanium Honeycomb Shutter blades, 1/200th sec. flash sync., 1982-1989
FM2n, Aluminum Alloy Shutter blades, 1/250th sec. flash sync., 1989-Present
I bought both my original FM2 bodies in 1982 (honeycomb, of course). I just
bought a new FM2n about a week ago (not honeycomb)..
Mac
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> "Jerry L." <ski2_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> > body.
>
> alloy bladed shutter in the FM2n.
Nope! Sorry. The aluminium shutter arrived in 1989. The first FM2n
cameras had the titanium one too. You're actually very unlikely to find a
FM2 (non n) actually.
The best clue is the serial No. All FM2n bodies have a serial No.
starting with "N"
David.
Only me...
> FM2, Titanium Honeycomb Shutter blades, 1/200th sec. flash sync.,
1982-1989
> FM2n, Aluminum Alloy Shutter blades, 1/250th sec. flash sync.,
1989-Present
Sorry Mac, but that's not correct. The 1/200th sync was dropped in '83.
All FM2s from 83 onwards are 1/250th, and are the FM2n, regarldess of the
shutter, which was replaced in 89. This titanium/aluminium shutter issue is
nothing to do with whether it's a FM2 or a FM2n.
David.
Mac Breck
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> "Mac Breck" <macb...@access995.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > FM2, Titanium Honeycomb Shutter blades, 1/200th sec. flash sync.,
> 1982-1989
> > FM2n, Aluminum Alloy Shutter blades, 1/250th sec. flash sync.,
> 1989-Present
>
>
>
> Sorry Mac, but that's not correct. The 1/200th sync was dropped in
'83.
> All FM2s from 83 onwards are 1/250th, and are the FM2n, regarldess of the
> shutter, which was replaced in 89.
"All FM2s from 83 onwards are 1/250th, and are the FM2n"
Are you saying that FM2n's started being produced in 1983 (i.e. that N######
serial numbers started in 1983?)?
Maybe the titanium-honeycomb shutter problems started happening when they
pushed the sync speed up to 1/250th. This could explain why I've had no
problems with my FM2 titanium honeycomb shutters. Both of mine were bought
new in 1982, are 1/200th (X200), and do not have an "N" in front of the
serial number.
> This titanium/aluminium shutter issue is
> nothing to do with whether it's a FM2 or a FM2n.
I'll have to re-read this part of Moose's book now. I could have sworn that
the change from FM2 to FM2n was in 1989 and the major change was the shutter
blade material and the 1/200th to 1/250th sync speed increase.
Mac
Richard Cochran
It's a small difference in speed, but it makes a significant
difference in usability for fill flash. My understanding (I've never
used a non-N FM2) is that the 1/200 speed is not in order on the dial
with the other speeds, and therefore the light meter doesn't work
correctly at that speed. Not a problem if flash is your only light
source, but if you're attempting to do balanced fill flash, it's
useful to be able to meter at the flash sync speed.
The FM2n, with its sync speed being one of the standard speeds, can
meter normally at the 1/250 flash sync speed.
--Rich
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> Are you saying that FM2n's started being produced in 1983 (i.e. that
N######
> serial numbers started in 1983?)?
Yes, that's correct. The FM2n was "introduced" in 1983.
>
> Maybe the titanium-honeycomb shutter problems started happening when they
> pushed the sync speed up to 1/250th.
No. The official reason was accuracy in cold weather, and durability.
Nothing to do with sync. The aluminium has nothing to do with the FM2/FM2n
thing.
> This could explain why I've had no
> problems with my FM2 titanium honeycomb shutters. Both of mine were
bought
> new in 1982, are 1/200th (X200), and do not have an "N" in front of the
> serial number.
Incidentally, just set it to 1/250th anyway, and I think you'll be
surprised to see that it WILL sync at that speed anyway.
> I'll have to re-read this part of Moose's book now. I could have sworn
that
> the change from FM2 to FM2n was in 1989 and the major change was the
shutter
> blade material and the 1/200th to 1/250th sync speed increase.
Nope. I promise you, that if Moose's book says that, then Moose is
wrong, and yes I'll tell him to his face :-)
FM2:
Intro -1982
Upgrade to FM2"n" in 1982.
Titanium shutter dropped in 1989 and remain the same to this day, with
the exception of "CE" being stamped into the base from 1990 onwards.
David.
Jim MacKenzie
> FM2, Titanium Honeycomb Shutter blades, 1/200th sec. flash sync.,
1982-1989
> FM2n, Aluminum Alloy Shutter blades, 1/250th sec. flash sync.,
1989-Present
>
just
> bought a new FM2n about a week ago (not honeycomb)..
I read that the FM2 was from about 1982-1983 or -84. The FM2n honeycomb
came out in about 1983. The FM2n aluminum came out in '89.
My FM2n (yes, n) has a titanium honeycombed shutter.
Jim
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"Carlos Carbajal" <cbc_...@pacbell.net> wrote in message
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> hello!
> After much research I've decided to buy a used Nikon FM2(N?). I'm
> confused about the difference between an FM2 and FM2N though. Is there
> much difference. Should I go with an FM2 or should I focus on finding
> an FM2N?
You'd be unlikely to find a FM2 (non N) really,. They were made for
less than 12 months.
Here's the FM2 Time Scale:
1982 - Nikon launch FM2 with 1/200th sync and titanium
shutter
1983 - Nikon update the FM2 to the FM2n. 1/250th sync
added. Still titanium
1989 - Nikon replace the titanium shutter with an
aluminium one.
Apart from having CE stamped into the baseplate in 1990, there are NO
other events in the FM2's life, except special editions, and the FM2T.
David.
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"Jerry L." <ski2_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> The 'honey-comb' material in the shutter was improved in the FM2N
> body.
There were NO shutter modifications until 1989. Teh increase in sync of
teh FM2n in 1983 was actually Nikon just admitting that the original FM2
coudl in fact manage it anyway. If you haev a FM2 with x200, try it. Set it
to 1/250th and flash away. You'll find it syncs fine.
David.
Only me...
I'm far too drunk to participate in anymore discusions thi s eveniong
people.. I'm gpoing to lie down for a while. Have funn
Bye fo r now.
David.