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Michael Reichmann

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Dec 25, 2001, 11:51:48 AM12/25/01
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Canon has released several news lenses during the past couple of
months.

These includes the 16~35mm f/2.8L, the 70~200mm f/2.8L IS and the
400mm f/4 DO IS lenses.

All three have now been reviewed at The Luminous Landscape.

Links to these reviews can be found at
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/what's.htm

Michael

www.luminous-landscape.com

Mark Morgan

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Dec 26, 2001, 4:39:52 AM12/26/01
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Yes.
But the DO was ONLY reviewed using a D30, which tells film users next to
NOTHING.

"Michael Reichmann" <mreic...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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Dave Carcel

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Dec 27, 2001, 11:02:40 AM12/27/01
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But when is it to become available. Originally it was last November but
still none in site. Dave

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dan

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Dec 28, 2001, 12:37:18 AM12/28/01
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All 3 lenses are available from B&H now.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com

Canon EF 400mm f/4.0 DO IS USM = USA$6000/naIMP
Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM = USA$1500/naIMP
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM = USA$1900/IMP$1850

May the Light be with you.©
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Charles Richmond

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Dec 28, 2001, 9:10:28 AM12/28/01
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dan wrote:
>
> All 3 lenses are available from B&H now.
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com
>
> Canon EF 400mm f/4.0 DO IS USM = USA$6000/naIMP
> Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM = USA$1500/naIMP
> Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM = USA$1900/IMP$1850
>

So here is my thought...

I have: 17-35 2.8L, 28-70 2.8L, 85 1.2L, 100-400 4.5-5.6L IS. If I
sell the 100-400 and buy the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS, and the 400mm f/4.0
DO IS .... hmmm I'll be out about $6800. What do you think folks?


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Bill Tuthill

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Dec 28, 2001, 2:02:08 PM12/28/01
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dan <eos1...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> All 3 lenses are available from B&H now: http://www.bhphotovideo.com

>
> Canon EF 400mm f/4.0 DO IS USM = USA$6000/naIMP
> Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM = USA$1500/naIMP
> Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM = USA$1900/IMP$1850

Thanks for saving us time navigating the B&H site!

According to the luminous-landscape.com review, the 16-35/2.8
is quite a bit better wide open at 17mm than the old 17-35/2.8.
However looking at the Photodo.com MTF graphs, the weaknesses of
the 17-35 were more at 24mm and 35mm wide open, where 40 lp/mm
MTF approached zero. The l-l didn't test above 17mm wide open,
nor did they test distortion, which was quite bad in the 17-35.

Before buying this Canon lens, I would wait to see how the Sigma
15-30/3.5-4.5 tests out. The 30-35 range is probably duplicated
by other lenses you own, and f/2.8 is seldom needed at wide angle.

Nice, only $1850 for the 70-200/2.8L IS -- what a bargain!

I still think the 400/4.0 DO should cost no more than twice the
price of the Minolta 400/4.5, which would be around $3600. It's
probably a mistake not to wait for prices to decline.

Stephen M. Dunn

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Dec 28, 2001, 6:52:51 PM12/28/01
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In article <3C2C7D54...@iisc.com> Charles Richmond <c...@iisc.com> writes:
$I have: 17-35 2.8L, 28-70 2.8L, 85 1.2L, 100-400 4.5-5.6L IS. If I
$sell the 100-400 and buy the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS, and the 400mm f/4.0
$DO IS .... hmmm I'll be out about $6800. What do you think folks?

Heh. Just in case this is a serious question ...

Well, you'd get a faster medium telephoto zoom and a faster and
probably sharper 400, but have a big hole from 200-400 unless you get
a TC to use with the 70-200. If you're like me, that 200-400 hole
probably won't be a big deal - my longest lens (100-300) get used
sometimes from 100-200 and at 300 but rarely in between - and the
extra speed at 400 would be good. But that's an awful lot of
money to be out.

Canon's expensive lenses always seem to drop in price after a
while. Same for the expensive bodies. Even if a 400/4 would be
a great addition to my lens lineup, I'd seriously consider waiting
for that ridiculous price to drop. Or ... what does a 300/2.8 plus
a 1.4x cost?
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Charles Richmond

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Dec 28, 2001, 8:13:12 PM12/28/01
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"Stephen M. Dunn" wrote:
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> In article <3C2C7D54...@iisc.com> Charles Richmond <c...@iisc.com> writes:
> $I have: 17-35 2.8L, 28-70 2.8L, 85 1.2L, 100-400 4.5-5.6L IS. If I
> $sell the 100-400 and buy the 70-200mm f/2.8L IS, and the 400mm f/4.0
> $DO IS .... hmmm I'll be out about $6800. What do you think folks?
>
> Heh. Just in case this is a serious question ...

Actually, my first thought was to sell the 17-35L and replace it with
a couple of non-zoom wide angle lenses. Maybe the 14 and ...
But the $$$$ is fairly impressive, so what started out as serious
is looking seriously impossible.

>
> Well, you'd get a faster medium telephoto zoom and a faster and
> probably sharper 400, but have a big hole from 200-400 unless you get
> a TC to use with the 70-200. If you're like me, that 200-400 hole
> probably won't be a big deal - my longest lens (100-300) get used
> sometimes from 100-200 and at 300 but rarely in between - and the

I do use the range from 200-400 so that means I have to think about
a 300 2.8L... The $$ is not looking pretty... *and* trekking the
stuff around is going to be a major problem.

> extra speed at 400 would be good. But that's an awful lot of
> money to be out.
>
> Canon's expensive lenses always seem to drop in price after a
> while. Same for the expensive bodies. Even if a 400/4 would be
> a great addition to my lens lineup, I'd seriously consider waiting
> for that ridiculous price to drop. Or ... what does a 300/2.8 plus
> a 1.4x cost?

Seems like I wait a bit...

Bill Tuthill

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Dec 29, 2001, 5:47:18 PM12/29/01
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Charles Richmond <c...@iisc.com> wrote:
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> I do use the range from 200-400 so that means I have to think about
> a 300 2.8L... The $$ is not looking pretty... *and* trekking the
> stuff around is going to be a major problem.

Guess you have a lot of money to spend. Just get a 2x teleconverter
so your 70-200/2.8 becomes a 140-400/5.6 and your 400/4 becomes a 400/8.
Maybe that's not so good with Canon AF... ;-)

With a 1.4x teleconverter your 70-200/2.8 becomes a 98-280/4 and your
400/4 becomes a 560/5.6. That would autofocus better, but now you're
lacking the 280-400 range. Oh well.

Charles Richmond

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Dec 29, 2001, 8:01:07 PM12/29/01
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Bill Tuthill wrote:
>
> Charles Richmond <c...@iisc.com> wrote:
> >
> > I do use the range from 200-400 so that means I have to think about
> > a 300 2.8L... The $$ is not looking pretty... *and* trekking the
> > stuff around is going to be a major problem.
>
> Guess you have a lot of money to spend. Just get a 2x teleconverter

I don't really have that much money this year... I do have a
reasonable expectation of seeing a *big* windfall next year we
shall see.

> so your 70-200/2.8 becomes a 140-400/5.6 and your 400/4 becomes a 400/8.
> Maybe that's not so good with Canon AF... ;-)
>
> With a 1.4x teleconverter your 70-200/2.8 becomes a 98-280/4 and your
> 400/4 becomes a 560/5.6. That would autofocus better, but now you're
> lacking the 280-400 range. Oh well.

Probably what I should do is to get the 1.4x now and get the 500 DO IS
when it comes out next year or the year after.

Anthony Zipple

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Dec 30, 2001, 1:34:51 AM12/30/01
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These reviews are consistant with my experience with the 16-35 and
70-200IS. Each is even better than its very good earlier model.
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