Nikon F70 vs F90x
Jesse Hamilton
Nikon FE with a well rounded assortment of lens. I do alot of scenics,
sunsets, close ups and pictures of my daughter. Obviously as my daughter
grows I will be taking pictures of sporting events etc. Most of what I love
the best and enjoy the most is the scenics. I'm going to upgrade my camera
and haven't decided between the F70 and F90x (it might be n70 in the states,
I'm in canada). Can anyone give me any feed back on wether I need to spend
the extra $500 or what I would lose if I didn't? Right off I lose the
convenience of a built in flash.
Thanks All
Jesse Hamilton
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Bill Williams
camera. It makes a very "professional-sounding" whirr when advancing. While
most scenics and sporting events won't be affected by that sound, it does
make a difference if you are taking travel photos. It draws attention to you
which, in some places, may not be welcome.
I own both cameras. I got the F70 a couple years ago and the F90x earlier
this year. I like both cameras, but they ARE very different beasts. The F70
is more of a consumer-orientated camera with as many built-in features as
possible within the limits of affordability. It is a very capable camera and
could shoot sporting events as well as an F90x--though its auto advance
isn't as fast as the latter's.
The F90x is a camera that can grow into near-professional use. You can get a
sophisticated data back for it, you can get a vertical grip for it (though
the camera then weighs quite a bit), and it serves many people as a back-up
camera for their F5. It also has the advantage of using AA batteries which
are available everywhere.
For your uses, however, I would recommend the F70. It will serve you for
many years (keep extra batteries on hand!). It will use all Nikon
flashes--including the SB28--just as well as the F90x would. If, at some
future time, you find the limitations of the F70 to be troublesome, Nikon
will probably by then have come up with something even better than the F90x.
If you have more questions, feel free to ask
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Jesse Hamilton
the bigger features. I find myself lying on the ground or crawling under
things for a good shot and it's just a pain to do if I want a portrait shot.
Jesse
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Robert Briggs
> Doesn't the F70 also have a verticle grip availible for it? That was one of
> the bigger features. I find myself lying on the ground or crawling under
> things for a good shot and it's just a pain to do if I want a portrait shot.
>
> Jesse
I have between medium-&-large sized hands and find the N70 (F70) to fit just
fine. It has a grip which is a nice compromise. With the 28-105 lens mounted
its easy to carry it by the grip one-handed.
Haven't seen an available verticle grip .. nor do I see a need for one. The N70
is a wonderful camera.
Bob
Chuck Ross
<je...@hub.org> wrote:
> Doesn't the F70 also have a verticle grip availible for it? That was one of
> the bigger features. I find myself lying on the ground or crawling under
> things for a good shot and it's just a pain to do if I want a portrait shot.
No vertical grip for N70 (as yet). Since Nikon regards it as a consumer
camera rather than a pro camera, it's unlikely to get one.
The N90s does have a vertical grip available which increases the weight
of the camera 1/2 pound, not to mention the bulk. I bought one, then
sold it immediately because of that.
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Jesse Hamilton <je...@hub.org> wrote in message
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> I'm just starting out with my photography hobby and some time I aquired a
> Nikon FE with a well rounded assortment of lens. I do alot of scenics,
> sunsets, close ups and pictures of my daughter. Obviously as my daughter
> grows I will be taking pictures of sporting events etc. Most of what I
love
> the best and enjoy the most is the scenics. I'm going to upgrade my
camera
> and haven't decided between the F70 and F90x (it might be n70 in the
states,
> I'm in canada). Can anyone give me any feed back on wether I need to
spend
> the extra $500 or what I would lose if I didn't? Right off I lose the
> convenience of a built in flash.
As always, the lens is the most important part of any camera. If you
already have good lenses, then pay the extra for the F90X. The F70 is
awkward to use manually compared to the F90X, and can become frustrating.
Apart from that it's a good camera, but that coloured LCD display is an
abortion. Why they chose to put that on it is beyond me.
Unless you need the money really badly, or don't have any decent
lenses, then get the F70, otherwise get the F90X. IF you don't have any
decent lenses, then get the F70, and spend the rest on some Nikkors.
David.
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> The N90s does have a vertical grip available which increases the weight
> of the camera 1/2 pound, not to mention the bulk. I bought one, then
> sold it immediately because of that.
Utter nonsense. It's plastic, and takes the same 4 AA cells that are
used without it. It adds practically no weight at all.
David.
Bill Welch
If you like to take shots of sunsets, you may want to try using neutral
density graduated filters so that the foreground is not underexposed. In
this case, you'll need a depth of field preview button to see where the edge
of the dark part of the graduated filter is. The N90s has a depth of field
preview button while the N70 does not.
Bill W.
>Jesse Hamilton <je...@hub.org> wrote in message
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> I'm just starting out with my photography hobby and some time I aquired a
> Nikon FE with a well rounded assortment of lens. I do alot of scenics,
> sunsets, close ups and pictures of my daughter. Obviously as my daughter
> grows I will be taking pictures of sporting events etc. Most of what I
love
> the best and enjoy the most is the scenics. I'm going to upgrade my
camera
> and haven't decided between the F70 and F90x (it might be n70 in the
states,
> I'm in canada). Can anyone give me any feed back on wether I need to
spend
> the extra $500 or what I would lose if I didn't? Right off I lose the
> convenience of a built in flash.
>
> Thanks All
> Jesse Hamilton
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Chuck Ross
<davebg@[nospam]globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
David, you're wrong. It adds 7.5 oz to the camera weight. That is almost
1/2 lb. It's a LOT heavier than without it.
Flemming Thor Hansen
wrote:
>>If you like to take shots of sunsets, you may want to try using neutral
>>density graduated filters so that the foreground is not underexposed. In
>>this case, you'll need a depth of field preview button to see where the edge
>>of the dark part of the graduated filter is.
Why? I manage find without it on my F70 using that type of filter.
I also considered the F90x when I was buying my Nikon, but did not find the
difference to be worth the additional price.
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The main differences btw. F70/N70 and F90x/N90s are
F90x has flash sync down to 1/250th sec (1/125th on F70). I miss that some
times.
The F70 has a built in flash, meaning you may not need to buy a separate flash a
from the beginning. I waited almost a month :-)
The F70 has auto bracketing and flash compensation, rear curtain sync function
built in. With the F90x you need to buy a separate data back MF-26 or to buy one
of the top-of-the-line Nikon flashed (SB-26 or SB-28) to get the last two
functions.
F70 uses two (expensive) lithium batteries. (You may get them at a reasonably
price if you look around - though. Approx. 3 - 4 USD each.)
F70 has no illumination of the LCD display. One of the three things I miss.
F70 has 3 personal quick recall programs and F90x+MF-26 only one. One things I
have come to love recently.
F90x has a computer interface. I miss that too.
F90x has DOF preview. (Some uses this a lot - I don't miss it.)
On F70 you can preview DOF if you know the trick.
F90x has multi exposure. (I'm not sure, but you may need the data back again)
F70 can do multi exposure - again if you know the trick.
F90x has a bit faster AF because the motor is stronger though the AF software is
better on the F70.
Further info may be found on
http://web.mit.edu/cai/www/nikon/compN.html
Regards
Flemming Hansen
Chuck Ross
<davebg@[nospam]globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
> Chuck Ross <ckr...@MYPANTSenteract.com> wrote in message
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>
> > David, you're wrong. It adds 7.5 oz to the camera weight. That is almost
> > 1/2 lb. It's a LOT heavier than without it.
>
> How can it? I'm holding one in my hand now, adn there's NO WAY ON EARTH
> it ways half a pound. It's a light, plastic battery tray, and it weighs
> next to nothing. It may weigh 7 oz with teh batteries in , but seeing as
> they're the same batteries that the F90 takes anyway, you're not really
> ADDING any weight at all, are you?
>
> David.
Put it on a scale, please.
Chuck Ross
<je...@hub.org> wrote:
> Thanks all for helping me with my quest. I've decided to look around and if
> I can find a F90x used for the price of a new F70 then I'm going to go for
> it. The grip and dof are the real kickers however certainly not worth the
> $500 cdn price difference new. Also the convienience of a built in flash
> makes is a close enough race that I will be happy either way.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Jesse Hamilton
Lotsa luck! I haven't seen many nice N90s for under $575 in good condition.
I checked Ebay for that. Usually around $600 for a nice one is a good bet.
New N70s go for $400; with date back, for $439 or some such.
The built-in flash sounds good, except it's only good up to about 10 feet.
It's fairly wimpy. And the N70's interface is very wierd. It takes two
strokes to change anything. But oddly, it has stuff that the N90s doesn't,
like bracketing, which is more useful than DOF for me.
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Dwight McCann
> I have the N90s and have been completely satisfied with it.
>
> If you like to take shots of sunsets, you may want to try using neutral
> density graduated filters so that the foreground is not underexposed. In
> this case, you'll need a depth of field preview button to see where the edge
> of the dark part of the graduated filter is. The N90s has a depth of field
> preview button while the N70 does not.
>
> Bill W.
>
I have two N70 bodies and an assortment of Nikkor lenses. While I agree
that the DOF preview would be nice, I have found the built-in flash on the
N70, which takes advantage of the magnificent Nikon flash exposure controls,
to be generally more useful than DOF. I can't imagine using either for sunsets!
But when shooting candid portraits, that little fill flash at -1.7 or so is
absolutely
irreplaceable ... while I have an SB-26, I don't tend to keep it on the camera
all
the time as it is heavy and awkward.
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Chuck Ross <ckr...@MYPANTSenteract.com> wrote in message
>
> Put it on a scale, please.
The only scale I have is calibrated in pounds, but it didn't even move
the scale at all. Even so, regardless, I can't notice a difference in
weight around my neck when I take it off. I still think that weight is not
an issue. It's really quite a pathetic thing really. It's cheap, plastic,
and far too expensive fro what it is. Why could they make a decent grip,
with a command dial, and rubber coated, and made from something a bit more
substantial? The MB-15 grip for the F100 is a decent grip. If it wasn't
for the fact that the F90 is too small without it, I wouldn't have even
considered it.
David.
Chuck Ross
<davebg@[nospam]globalnet.co.uk> wrote:
Well, I put mine on a diet scale and it weighed in at 7.5 oz. Either
yours is not the regulation version but a special one made in fairyland,
or your scale is off. The reason I weighed it was because I thought it
was pretty heavy and wanted to find out exactly how much it weighed.
Come to think of it, tho...I may have had the batteries in it when I
weighed it.
Don't know any more. It's gone. I also thought the N90s was too big
with it on. To each his own.
Paul Paco
better from the winding, focusing, and durability. The front of that body is
metal and it can take much more abuse than the f-70. You can get a decent used
flash for under $200.00. I would go with the F90x.
Paul
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> Well, I put mine on a diet scale and it weighed in at 7.5 oz. Either
> yours is not the regulation version but a special one made in fairyland,
> or your scale is off.
Probably off.
> Come to think of it, tho...I may have had the batteries in it when I
> weighed it.
>
> Don't know any more. It's gone. I also thought the N90s was too big
> with it on. To each his own.
Weights irrelivant anyhow. It doesn't noticeable add to teh weight of
the camera around your neck. It shoudl do though. I can't believ Nikon made
such a cheap, plasticky piece of rubbish fro such a fine camera.
David.