Ricoh GR1 Questions
Albert Chau
Hi David,
The GR-1 is a quality built camera. I paid $424 for a DATE model just a few
months ago from B&H. At the time when CWO was selling it for $500+.
If you are concerning about the visibility of the display information, why
not go to a camera shop and check it out? I did not do that, because I live
in the suburb of Seattle. To wait for a sunny day, I might miss the current
model year for GR-1.
I don't think you need to wear a baseball cap when using the GR-1 under the
sun. If not, I can just see that Ricoh will include baseball cap as
mandatory option. I do wish the viewfinder is bigger for better viewing,
especially for eye glass wearer.
Personally, I won't pay 5% for extended warranty. YMMV.
I found the 28mm is too wide for me as a general purpose P&S camera. I like
the 35mm much more.
Hope this helps,
Albert
gube...@mediaone.net wrote in message <6kvqil$k8$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>I am seriously considering buying a Ricoh GR1 as a supplement to my Canon
>Elan, but I have a few questions:
>
>In practice, how much of a problem or annoyance is the poor visibility of
the
>viewfinder information in sunlight? What techniques, if any, work for
people
>to compensate? For example, it's been suggested to me that wearing a
baseball
>should suffice, or shading the viewfinder with my left hand.
>
>The best price I've seen for the non-date model from a reputable dealer is
>$379.99 from Camera World of Oregon plu $13.85 for UPS Blue 3-day shipping.
>
>CWO also offers two additional years of manufacturer's warranty for $19.99
and
>an RC-8 remote control, also for $19.99. Why is either of these
worthwhile,
>or not?
>
>Is there anything else I should consider in making my decision?
>
>I'm also in a light, compact tripod. Based on positive a review in
photo.net,
>I'm considering the Slik Compact because it seems small enough to put in a
day
>pack and light enough to actually carry around town or on country walks.
>(Currently, back problems preclude me carrying much more.) What experience
do
>does anyone have with this? Are there reasons to see if I'm able to manage
>the Bogen Junior? (Often, I'll also be carrying a Canon Elan w/28-105 zoom
>and 540EZ flash.)
>
>Thank you.
>
>David A. Guberman
>
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John McCormack
....how much of a problem or annoyance is the poor visibility of the
.viewfinder information in sunlight?
This is an annoyance but just put your left index finger over the front
left edge of the viewfinder to shade/block the sun and you'll see the
readings clearly. Or, lock focus and AE then turn away to a shady area
to view the readings (not a good trick for active subjects).
.RC-8 remote control, also for $19.99. Why is either of these
.worthwhile,or not?
I'm not aware that a "RC-8" remote is available for the GR1. This is
news to me! I can't find any mention of it in my GR1 brochures or the
user manaul. Maybe it's new? If you get it can you let me know how it
works. I might want to get one myself.
I would not buy an extended warranty. Just my opinion.
The CWO price is probably the best you'll find right now. Make sure it
is in stock when you order.
Make sure you really want a 28mm lens. I love it because I shoot
scenics, street scenes and groups. But others prefer a longer lens.
See my GR1 user page at:
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Vines/9273/gr1.html
Terje Tveraas
A "bug" on the Ricoh GR1?
On the top of the camera there is an exposure compensation dial showing
values from +2 to -2. In the manual these values are referred to as
+/-2EV in increments of 1/2EV where it says: "To change the exposure
compensation setting, rotate the exposure compensation dial until the
pointer mark is aligned with the setting you want." I understand this as
EV values, and that +2 means +2EV, i. e. stopping down 2 apertures (see
EV table Fig. 58 and 59 on page 9 in the manual). But this is not the
case. It means the opposite: +2 on the dial means open up 2 f-stops
(-2EV).
A month ago I had a window seat aboard a flight across some snowy
mountains which I knew very well, and wanted to take pictures of them.
From experience I compensate the exposure with 1 1/2 or 2 stops when
taking pictures of snow. And from the Hasselblad EV settings I knew that
I had to decrease the EV values by 2. But setting -2 on the dial on the
GR1 gave wrong exposure information in the viewfinder! What should I
trust: the viewfinder info or the EV dial setting? I chose to trust the
viewfinder, and dialed the opposite direction to +2. And I was right.
Conclusion: +2 means open up 2 stops, not +2EV. EV in this context only
refers to the amount of light. This is confusing and in my view
misleading. Do you agree?
--Terje, Norway
stone...@my-dejanews.com
In article <35743D...@usgs.gov>,
John McCormack <john_mc...@usgs.gov> wrote:
>
> ....how much of a problem or annoyance is the poor visibility of the
> .viewfinder information in sunlight?
> This is an annoyance but just put your left index finger over the front
> left edge of the viewfinder to shade/block the sun and you'll see the
> readings clearly. Or, lock focus and AE then turn away to a shady area
> to view the readings (not a good trick for active subjects).
>
> .RC-8 remote control, also for $19.99. Why is either of these
> .worthwhile,or not?
> I'm not aware that a "RC-8" remote is available for the GR1. This is
> news to me! I can't find any mention of it in my GR1 brochures or the
> user manaul. Maybe it's new? If you get it can you let me know how it
> works. I might want to get one myself.
>
No, I think GR-1 does not take the remote.
Peter McIntosh
Terje Tveraas wrote in message <35750B...@cc.uib.no>...
>A "bug" on the Ricoh GR1?
>
>Conclusion: +2 means open up 2 stops, not +2EV. EV in this context only
>refers to the amount of light. This is confusing and in my view
>misleading. Do you agree?
>
Terje,
Funny - mine works the other way!
I did an experiment to check mine, namely: I meter on a particular subject
with an aperture of f5.6 manually selected. I get a corresponding shutter
speed in the viewfinder of 1/125 sec. I then alter the exposure
compensation dial to +2 EV and get a shutter speed of 1/30 sec - equivalent
to stopping down two f-stops. Changing the exposure compensation to -2 EV
gives me a shutter speed of 1/500 sec.
This behaviour seems to be as per the manual. I suppose one of us has a
faulty camera - question is, who?
One thing I did notice is that I had some difficulty actually reading the
"+" and "-" signs on the graduation marks; I initially turned the dial
towards -2 EV thinking the "-" was actually the "+". You haven't by chance
done this as well?
Ciao,
Peter
Ciao,
Peter
Peter McIntosh
stone...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
<6l32ag$gsb$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <35743D...@usgs.gov>,
> John McCormack <john_mc...@usgs.gov> wrote:
>>
>> .RC-8 remote control, also for $19.99. Why is either of these
>> .worthwhile,or not?
>>
>> I'm not aware that a "RC-8" remote is available for the GR1. This is
>> news to me! I can't find any mention of it in my GR1 brochures or the
>> user manaul. Maybe it's new? If you get it can you let me know how it
>> works. I might want to get one myself.
>>
>
>No, I think GR-1 does not take the remote.
>
The RC-8 does work with the GR-1. I have just ordered one for my GR-1,
after checking both with the local camera shop (the knowledgable one), and
RICOH's distributors here in Australia. Cost is around $35.00 Australian.
Ciao,
Peter
Terje Tveraas
Peter McIntosh wrote:
> Funny - mine works the other way!
No, it DOES work like mine!
>
> I did an experiment to check mine, namely: I meter on a particular subject
> with an aperture of f5.6 manually selected. I get a corresponding shutter
> speed in the viewfinder of 1/125 sec. I then alter the exposure
> compensation dial to +2 EV and get a shutter speed of 1/30 sec - equivalent
> to stopping down two f-stops. Changing the exposure compensation to -2 EV
> gives me a shutter speed of 1/500 sec.
>
> This behaviour seems to be as per the manual. I suppose one of us has a
> faulty camera - question is, who?
>
> One thing I did notice is that I had some difficulty actually reading the
> "+" and "-" signs on the graduation marks; I initially turned the dial
> towards -2 EV thinking the "-" was actually the "+". You haven't by chance
> done this as well?
Hmmmm, I am not all that familiar with the English words stopping down
and open up; what I understand with stopping down is going from let's
say 5.6 to 8 (to a smaller aperture) and opening up vice versa. 1/125
and f5.6 is EV 12, while 1/30 and f5.6 is EV 10. As I see it, going from
1/125 to 1/30 at f5.6 is equivalent to opening up two f-stops (bigger
aperture and more light), and according to the EV table that is -2EV.
--Terje
stone...@my-dejanews.com
In article <35750B...@cc.uib.no>,
> values from +2 to -2. In the manual these values are referred to as
> +/-2EV in increments of 1/2EV where it says: "To change the exposure
> compensation setting, rotate the exposure compensation dial until the
> pointer mark is aligned with the setting you want." I understand this as
> EV values, and that +2 means +2EV, i. e. stopping down 2 apertures (see
> EV table Fig. 58 and 59 on page 9 in the manual). But this is not the
> case. It means the opposite: +2 on the dial means open up 2 f-stops
> (-2EV).
>
> A month ago I had a window seat aboard a flight across some snowy
> mountains which I knew very well, and wanted to take pictures of them.
> From experience I compensate the exposure with 1 1/2 or 2 stops when
> taking pictures of snow. And from the Hasselblad EV settings I knew that
> I had to decrease the EV values by 2. But setting -2 on the dial on the
> GR1 gave wrong exposure information in the viewfinder! What should I
> trust: the viewfinder info or the EV dial setting? I chose to trust the
> viewfinder, and dialed the opposite direction to +2. And I was right.
>
> refers to the amount of light. This is confusing and in my view
> misleading. Do you agree?
>
>
You are lucky/unlucky? to get a Hasselblad to try. Other cameras works just
like the GR1. +2 means allow the camera to be over 2 stop of exposure.
I've got a question now. Is 1ev equal 1 stop of exposure?
stone...@my-dejanews.com
stone...@my-dejanews.com
In article <6l34eo$p8v$1...@mail.pl.unisys.com>,
"Peter McIntosh" <Peter.M...@Unisys.com> wrote:
>
>
> Terje Tveraas wrote in message <35750B...@cc.uib.no>...
> >
> >refers to the amount of light. This is confusing and in my view
> >misleading. Do you agree?
> >
>
>
> Funny - mine works the other way!
>
> with an aperture of f5.6 manually selected. I get a corresponding shutter
> speed in the viewfinder of 1/125 sec. I then alter the exposure
> compensation dial to +2 EV and get a shutter speed of 1/30 sec - equivalent
> to stopping down two f-stops. Changing the exposure compensation to -2 EV
> gives me a shutter speed of 1/500 sec.
>
> This behaviour seems to be as per the manual. I suppose one of us has a
> faulty camera - question is, who?
>
> One thing I did notice is that I had some difficulty actually reading the
> "+" and "-" signs on the graduation marks; I initially turned the dial
> towards -2 EV thinking the "-" was actually the "+". You haven't by chance
> done this as well?
>
>
> Peter
>
> Ciao,
>
> Peter
>
>
Both of your cameras are good. They got consistent behaviour
Terje Tveraas
Yes. Just check the tables on page 9 in the GR1 manual. On the
Hasselblad lenses the EV values are indicated.
--Terje
stone...@my-dejanews.com
In article <6l34j6$pon$1...@mail.pl.unisys.com>,
"Peter McIntosh" <Peter.M...@Unisys.com> wrote:
>
>
> stone...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message
> <6l32ag$gsb$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
> >In article <35743D...@usgs.gov>,
> > John McCormack <john_mc...@usgs.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >> .RC-8 remote control, also for $19.99. Why is either of these
> >> .worthwhile,or not?
>
> >>
> >> I'm not aware that a "RC-8" remote is available for the GR1. This is
> >> news to me! I can't find any mention of it in my GR1 brochures or the
> >> user manaul. Maybe it's new? If you get it can you let me know how it
> >> works. I might want to get one myself.
> >>
> >
> >No, I think GR-1 does not take the remote.
> >
>
> The RC-8 does work with the GR-1. I have just ordered one for my GR-1,
> after checking both with the local camera shop (the knowledgable one), and
> RICOH's distributors here in Australia. Cost is around $35.00 Australian.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Peter
>
>
Then...Good luck la. ;-)
Peter McIntosh
stone...@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <6l5jr9
>Both of your cameras are good. They got consistent behaviour
>
True. Takes good piccies, too...
Ciao,
Peter
ma...@imagine-sw.com
In article <6l5jf9$n4a$1...@nnrp2.dejanews.com>,
stone...@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > The RC-8 does work with the GR-1. I have just ordered one for my GR-1,
> > after checking both with the local camera shop (the knowledgable one), and
> > RICOH's distributors here in Australia. Cost is around $35.00 Australian.
> >
> > Ciao,
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> Then...Good luck la. ;-)
Yeah, I am a bit surprised too! When I saw that CWO markets th RC-8 for GR-1
I called Ricoh USA. They said it is designed for the R-1 not GR-1. I
personally do not see the IR reciever on the camera so it may work.