Leave film leader out on rewinding - why would I want this?
Dave
While checking out the features of the latest crop of SLRs,
I've seen several that have this feature/option.
My question is simple - why would I want to do this?
Thanks in advance!
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David Bedno
-While checking out the features of the latest crop of SLRs,
-I've seen several that have this feature/option.
-
-My question is simple - why would I want to do this?
Since I don't do much with film, I don't have a leader extracter. So if
I want to take a whole role of double exposures, or if I want to rewind
mid-roll, and then come back to that roll, it's much easier.
Heck, it's even just plain easier when it comes time to develop the film
yourself.
It's a nice feature, but probably not one you should base your camera buying
decisions on.
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Gary Cowell (QI'HoS)
>Hi All,
>
>While checking out the features of the latest crop of SLRs,
>I've seen several that have this feature/option.
>
>My question is simple - why would I want to do this?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>
At a guess, you may want to rewind part-roll to change to a different
film with the intention of reloading it later.
Difficult to reload with no leader.
Godfrey DiGiorgi
reload the first one easily. A 'mid-roll-change' convenience. I've
always hated fussing with tongue retrievers...
Godfrey
B. Buckles
Bob
"Gary Cowell (QI'HoS)" wrote:
>
> Said Dave <anon...@web.remarq.com>
>
> >Hi All,
> >
> >While checking out the features of the latest crop of SLRs,
> >I've seen several that have this feature/option.
> >
> >My question is simple - why would I want to do this?
> >
Dave
Now forgive the dumb question, but how would you advance
the film to the next unexposed frame when switching back to
the original film?
Dave
K. Darling
Personally, I never do that. Too much of a chance to screw it up.
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Dave <anon...@web.remarq.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All,
>
> While checking out the features of the latest crop of SLRs,
> I've seen several that have this feature/option.
>
> My question is simple - why would I want to do this?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
William Jameson
: OK a mid-roll change makes sense.
: Now forgive the dumb question, but how would you advance
: the film to the next unexposed frame when switching back to
: the original film?
This way:
Take note of last frame that was exposed, reload partially used roll,
switch autofocus lens to manual, place lens cap on lens, if paranoid, set
shutter speed to maximum, press shutter button until you at at the number
of the frame that was exposed plus one (most recent Canon cameras with
IR film counter) or plus two for any camera without an IR film counter
(skipping a frame) and then you're set. Remove lens cap, switch lens
switch to auto, if you wish.
Bill Jameson
LaserAndy
to write it on the leader), and when you reinsert it, advance to that frame,
then add one for security.
A note of caution (ie. I've done this) if you have a databack printing things
on or between frames, turn off the printing before reloading the film,
otherwise you'll end up with a second set of data, and the between frame data
will likely end up on the frames the second time around.
Andrew
Bob wyllie
the mid-roll rewind feature. That way I can switch rolls part way through...
color to B&W for instance. The film transport\frame counter is so accurate that
when I reload a half exposed roll, I don't have to skip a frame to avoid
double exposure. I just have to remember which frame I was on and advance to
it.
GAB
kirkdarli...@mindspring.com says...
> That's so you can re-load a partially used roll.
>
> Personally, I never do that. Too much of a chance to screw it up.
>
> --
> Kirk
>
What could go wrong with this rewind? My Nikon F100 and F5 don't even
have this feature :-( but sometimes I wish it did. But you perked my
ears up here - what could go wrong? Scratched film perhaps? Accidental
light exposure? Would appreciate input on this -
Greg
>
>
>
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GAB <ne...@baxnet.net> wrote in message
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> In article <7mgjkn$45c$1...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
> kirkdarli...@mindspring.com says...
> > That's so you can re-load a partially used roll.
> >
> > Personally, I never do that. Too much of a chance to screw it up.
> >
> > --
> > Kirk
> >
> Kirk -
> What could go wrong with this rewind? My Nikon F100 and F5 don't even
> have this feature :-( but sometimes I wish it did. But you perked my
> ears up here - what could go wrong? Scratched film perhaps? Accidental
> light exposure? Would appreciate input on this -
>
film and the film isn't aligned properly you could end up with an inadvertant
double exposure - if you don't skip a frame past the last that you shot. The
solution is to write the last exposed frame on the leader end, and when you
reload it just advance the film one past that before starting shooting again.
You'll lose a frame, but if you want or need to switch film it's better than
nothing.
Justin Medlock
: I think he's talking about the reloading, not the rewinding. If you reload the
: film and the film isn't aligned properly you could end up with an inadvertant
: double exposure - if you don't skip a frame past the last that you shot. The
: solution is to write the last exposed frame on the leader end, and when you
: reload it just advance the film one past that before starting shooting again.
: You'll lose a frame, but if you want or need to switch film it's better than
: nothing.
On this same point (reloading): is it true that some
developing labs just line up on the first frame and
print from there, assuming that all other frames are
equally spaced apart? Could this cause printing
problems (i.e. the frames you shoot after reloading
could be shifted - e.g. 1/32", 1/16", whatever.. - in
relation to the initial frames you shot). Or is
the printing machinery just not precise enough for
this to matter?
justin
William Rainey
>
> That's so you can re-load a partially used roll.
>
> Personally, I never do that. Too much of a chance to screw it up.
>
> --
> Kirk
What's to screw up? I do this ALL the time and haven't screwed up
anything yet!
Somebody else made the comment it was a nice feature, but not something
you should base a purchase decision on. Actually I disagree. If you use
this feature very frequently like I do, it IS something that controls
your purchase decision! I didn't keep a nice Nikon N90s that I had for a
few weeks because of the LACK of this feature. I could have sent it to a
service facility to have it reprogrammed, but why? Why should I be
without my camera for a week or more when other makes (upper-level Canon
and Minolta bodies) have the ability to do this already?
Bill
William Rainey
<<snip>>
> On this same point (reloading): is it true that some
> developing labs just line up on the first frame and
> print from there, assuming that all other frames are
> equally spaced apart? Could this cause printing
> problems (i.e. the frames you shoot after reloading
> could be shifted - e.g. 1/32", 1/16", whatever.. - in
> relation to the initial frames you shot). Or is
> the printing machinery just not precise enough for
> this to matter?
>
> justin
I've never had such a problem and have been reloading mid-roll rewinds
on average of once a week for the past two years.
Bill
ma...@my-deja.com
>Why should I be without my camera for a week or more when other makes
>(upper-level Canon and Minolta bodies) have the ability to do this
>already?
Actually the lower end models from Minolta have this feature also - XTsi
and HTsi Plus. It is one of the custom functions that allows the
file tip to be left out. The XTsi/HTsi Plus cameras offer a lot in
features for the money and are good backups for higher end cameras (i.e.
800si and Maxxum 9) or for the beginner/amateur. While small and light,
the HTsi Plus I own has been very good and met and exceeded my
expectations. I would, however, hope Minolta comes out with a new
~$400-600 camera that is larger and heavier with added focusing and film
transport speed in the next year to upgrade to - among a few other
added features such as DOF preview.
Thoughts???
Jeff C.
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I. Hecht
the control feature defaulting to this and to the extent I use the full roll
I just push the leader into the roll. I have changed from slide film to 800
speed film for night shots to 100 speed for daylight. I only caution you to
be sure to know how many frames were shot on the roll before rewinding
mid-roll or you will either get double exposures or unexposed frames.
Ira R. Hecht
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Dave wrote in message <9319026...@www.remarq.com>...
Godfrey DiGiorgi
and reload film. I've been swapping films in the middle of the roll for
30+ years. Simplistic motorized transport is the reason so many cameras
don't have this feature now.
Gads, more and more reasons why I love my archiac, manually operated
cameras.
Godfrey
curmudgeon in training
Frank2001
>: I think he's talking about the reloading, not the rewinding. If you reload
>the
>: film and the film isn't aligned properly you could end up with an
>inadvertant
>: double exposure - if you don't skip a frame past the last that you shot.
>The
>: solution is to write the last exposed frame on the leader end, and when you
>: reload it just advance the film one past that before starting shooting
>again.
>: You'll lose a frame, but if you want or need to switch film it's better
>than
>: nothing.
>
>developing labs just line up on the first frame and
>print from there, assuming that all other frames are
>equally spaced apart? Could this cause printing
>problems (i.e. the frames you shoot after reloading
>could be shifted - e.g. 1/32", 1/16", whatever.. - in
>relation to the initial frames you shot). Or is
>the printing machinery just not precise enough for
>this to matter?
>
>justin
>
If your shooting slide film an automatic slicing machine could leave you with
mess.
Always tell the processor that you have done a mid roll rewind just to be safe.
Frank
Clemens Huebner
>
> In article <7mgjkn$45c$1...@nntp3.atl.mindspring.net>,
> kirkdarli...@mindspring.com says...
> >
> > Personally, I never do that. Too much of a chance to screw it up.
> >
> > --
> > Kirk
> >
> What could go wrong with this rewind? My Nikon F100 and F5 don't even
> have this feature :-( but sometimes I wish it did. But you perked my
> ears up here - what could go wrong? Scratched film perhaps? Accidental
> light exposure? Would appreciate input on this -
The F5 has manual rewind, so you have this feature. The F100 doesn't, i
think.
Clemens