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Difference between Nikon 8008 and 8008S

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Bob Beaver

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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Can anyone tell me what the difference is between these two cameras. Will
they take the same accessories such as databack, eyecup, focusing screens,
etc.?

Thanks.


Cand5004

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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>Difference between Nikon 8008 and 8008S

The 'S' model has a spot meter and faster autofocus. I don't use the autofocus
all that often but the spot meter makes the 'S' more desirable. CJA

Chris

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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Just as a side note:
I use both Canon (well, mostly) and my 8008s.
The 8008s has the best metering system for low light that has, in my and
several of my colleagues experience, ever been put in a camera.
Just thought people might like to know about it.

Regard,
Chris

Robert Hope

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Dec 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/30/99
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Bob, I believe that they are identical, except the F801s (known as the 8008s
in USA) has spot metering. I have owned an F801 for 10 years and it is the
best camera that I have ever owned. Despite being well able to trade up to
an F100 I have been so happy with the F801 that I am reluctant to do so. On
the rare occasions that I need spot metering I use a separate meter.

Good luck! Robert
England

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Bob Beaver

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Dec 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/31/99
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In article <19991230093012...@ng-bd1.aol.com>, cand...@aol.com
(Cand5004) wrote...


Thanks. I have another question. Is a focus screen with a split image
rangefinder available for the N8008?


Only me...

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"Cand5004" <cand...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> >Difference between Nikon 8008 and 8008S
>
> The 'S' model has a spot meter and faster autofocus. I don't use the
autofocus
> all that often but the spot meter makes the 'S' more desirable. CJA


Wrong.. the difference is that the 8008s has a spot meter, hence the
"S". I DO wish people would just not comment unless they know that they're
correct. People don't want to know what you "think" the difference is, they
want to know what the difference IS.

David.

Cand5004

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Dec 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/31/99
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Screens A, K and R have split image rangefinders, but I can't tell which work
(or don't work) on the 8008. CJA

Gary Frost

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The 8008s has a spot meter and improved, faster autofocus. Said to be
about 15% faster. Also added was 'focus tracking', a software enhancement
for continuous focus on moving objects.
Gary Frost

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"Gary Frost" <gfr...@nospamhome.com> wrote in message
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> The 8008s has a spot meter and improved, faster autofocus. Said to be
> about 15% faster.

Not true. It's actually a software "patch". Actual increases are
negligible. Focus tracking was added, yes, but the biggest improvement was
the addition of a spot meter and better gasket sealing, making it more
durable . This is even more important when buying a second hand model: The
prices between the 8008 and 800s make the spot meter very important when
deciding which one to buy, because if you don't need one, you'll be much
better off buying the 8008. The focus tracking is a joke anyway, and you'll
never see the AF speed difference (at least two major camera tests at eth
time of release couldn't). Both models are outperformed by new models, so
if AF is your primary concern, why re you buying the F801? The AF
"improvements" are hardly why the second hand prices are so different.

Gary Frost

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Dec 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/31/99
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The AF motor is different: higher torque and 15% faster. No, it's of
no relevence to me, but the question was: "What are the differences?"
Maybe it's just academic but David, lets get the facts straight before
we post..... or blast another for posting mis-information.
I had an 8008s for a while: wonderful camera,,, sold it.
Gary Frost

Matt Clara

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Dec 31, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/31/99
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r u stoned?

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Bob Beaver

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In article <19991231091732...@ng-fr1.aol.com>, cand...@aol.com
(Cand5004) wrote...

>
>Screens A, K and R have split image rangefinders, but I can't tell which work
>(or don't work) on the 8008. CJA

Thanks. I have another question. Does the 8008S model have the S designation
anywhere on the camera?


Bob Beaver

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In article <386CE4E0...@home.com>, gfr...@home.com (Gary Frost )
wrote...

>The AF motor is different: higher torque and 15% faster. No, it's of
>no relevence to me, but the question was: "What are the differences?"
>Maybe it's just academic but David, lets get the facts straight before
>we post..... or blast another for posting mis-information.
>I had an 8008s for a while: wonderful camera,,, sold it.
>Gary Frost

Does the 8008 have the annoying habit of not firing the shutter but whirring
the motor first after being turned on if there is no film in the camera, or is
the 8008S the only camera that does that?


Cand5004

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Jan 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/1/00
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>Does the 8008S model have the S designation
>anywhere on the camera?

Yes, it is clearly marked "N8008S" on the front upper right corner as you look
at the camera. CJA

Wayne Harrison

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On 1 Jan 2000 00:37:23 GMT, Bo...@nospam.com (Bob Beaver) wrote:


>Does the 8008 have the annoying habit of not firing the shutter but whirring
>the motor first after being turned on if there is no film in the camera, or is
>the 8008S the only camera that does that?

i don't know the answer to that question, but i can only
wonder at how frantic your life must be if that kind of thing is
sufficiently "annoying" to post here about it. no offense, of course.

wayne harrison
>


Bob Beaver

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In article <386d9eef....@news.netmcr.com>, wa...@netmcr.com (Wayne
Harrison) wrote...

>
>On 1 Jan 2000 00:37:23 GMT, Bo...@nospam.com (Bob Beaver) wrote:
>
>
>>Does the 8008 have the annoying habit of not firing the shutter but whirring
>>the motor first after being turned on if there is no film in the camera, or
i
>s
>>the 8008S the only camera that does that?
>
> i don't know the answer to that question,

Thanks anyway.


Bob Beaver

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In article <19991231212947...@ng-bh1.aol.com>, cand...@aol.com
(Cand5004) wrote...

Thanks, then the (.) symbol in the LCD panel probably stands for
centerweighted metering in the N8008, instead of spot metering.


mr_v...@hotmail.com

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Jan 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/2/00
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My 8008s, does this if you try to fire the camera without film, it
will make this sound. The sound is the camera trying to load film,
which it does whenever you push the button after turning on the camera
and it senses there is no film loaded.

>
>Does the 8008 have the annoying habit of not firing the shutter but whirring
>the motor first after being turned on if there is no film in the camera, or is
>the 8008S the only camera that does that?
>

Rodney Ninow

www.naturalimages.com

Bob Beaver

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In article <386e8d4d...@news.linkline.com>, mr_v...@hotmail.com
(mr_v...@hotmail.com) wrote...

Thanks, now I know the camera I was playing with is not defective. It is
disconcerting the very first time I played with it. The autofocus motor
whirred as expected, then there is a second whir of a different pitch and the
shutter doesn't fire after both whirs. And it happened on the first try every
time I turn on the camera or the camera meter.

Happy New Year.


Only me...

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Jan 2, 2000, 3:00:00 AM1/2/00
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As a second hand buyer, looking at the price differences, I'd say that
the spot metering is the issue. I have tests here from when the camera was
launched, and your figure of 15% seems a little optimistic compared to them.
They described the difference "negligable", and the focus tracking as
"quirky, and prone to locking the camera up until focus is acheived", and I
can vouch for that one. The AF improvements are not worth the money. The
discussion here is not how many features each camera has anyway. As a
second hand buyer, I'd say the AF improvements are not good enough reason to
pay the extra. The spot meter is, but that's what I was saying. If you
don't need a spot meter, why pay fro eth 8008S? The AF is not worth the
extra, and the 8008 is a great camera as it is, so save some cash. If AF is
such a big deal to you, you'd be better advised getting a better AF camera
anyway.

Only me...

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"Matt Clara" <NOSPAM--...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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> r u stoned?


As a mater of fact I was. It was New Year's Eve, weren't you?

Only me...

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"Bob Beaver" <Bo...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> In article <19991231091732...@ng-fr1.aol.com>,
cand...@aol.com
> (Cand5004) wrote...
> >
> >Screens A, K and R have split image rangefinders, but I can't tell which
work
> >(or don't work) on the 8008. CJA
>
> Thanks. I have another question. Does the 8008S model have the S

designation
> anywhere on the camera?
>

Indeed, it's clearly labelled "N8008S", or "F-801S" if you're anywhere
else in eth world.

David.

Only moi

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Quirky and prone to the lock up. You get what you pay fro, Dave.
--
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Bob Beaver

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In article <84ovin$s2v$1...@gxsn.com>, davebg@[nospam]globalnet.co.uk (Only me...
) wrote...

Thanks.


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