Nikon 90S vs N80
jp...@my-deja.com
80-200, and SB24 flash to either the N90S or the new N80. What does the
forum think I should do? I've seen them both and also the F100 (too
expensive), so my decision is to go with the N90S or the N80. The 90S feels
great, but it does not have the latest technology versus the N80. The N80
seems smallish in my hands, so I'm reading and taking all the advise I can
get. Also what new lenses should I buy with it? Your advise is greatly
appreciated. Thanks to all in advance.
JP
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Henry
tubes or close up bellows go with the N80. If you want a universal professional
camera to handle most everything the 90s is the greatest value anywhere.
Tony Polson
If fast AF, features and forward compatibility are your priority, the
N80 will be an excellent choice. Only its inability to meter with
manual focus Nikkors stopped me buying one.
If robust build is more important than fast AF, features and forward
compatibility, the N90S is a good choice, although I would tend to
overlook it and save my money for a good used F100. This has all the
features and performance of the N80 plus the build of the N90s plus a
lot more besides.
Good luck with your choice; all three are fine cameras.
--
Tony Polson, North Yorkshire, UK
Heavysteam
is the greatest value anywhere.>>
In the Nikon lineup, professional starts with the letter "F". The N90s is
not one of Nikon's professional-line cameras.
JBSDADDY
>not one of Nikon's professional-line cameras.
we could get real nit picky with this one. i will try not to. however, the
FG, FG-20 were not pro, and lots of people consider the N90s a pro camera.
i have my own little way of telling the difference: the viewfinder. i always
understood that the round eyepiece was used for pro cameras, and the
rectangular was for amateur.
also, all of the cameras sold outside the us start with F, don't they? maybe
nikon out to clear this up for the people who fret about such things.
Jansen98
"professional" by your definition. Many pros have and still are using the
N90s. Indeed, Nikon itself considers the N90s a pro calibre camera.
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Alexander Grekhov
Well, it depends how you define "professional". Some people do not
consider F100 "professional grade" camera either, but rather high-end
consumer:
http://kenrockwell.com/nikon/f100.htm
Alexander
Tony Polson
Outside the USA the N range does not exist and all Nikons begin with F.
The N90s is marketed as the F90X. If you buy it with the MB-10 battery
pack it is marketed as the F90X PRO.
The N2000 was the F301, the N2020 the F501 and the N6006 the F601. The
N50, 60, 65 etc. were/are F50, F60, F65 etc..
I find all this unnecessarily confusing. The N90s is a camera for
advanced amateurs that may be attractive to some pros, but it is not a
pro camera. That it is sold as such in some countries is a marketing
misjudgement IMHO.
I recall reading a posting on here from a UK newspaper pro whose
employers bought F90X bodies and had a lot of problems with them. Had
the US-market "N" designation been used it is likely that the newspaper
would have realised that the camera, worthy though it is, was not for
them.
The F100 is quite different from the N90s (F90X) and fully deserves its
status as an "F" (Pro) camera.
Matt Clara
for that matter.
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greg
Heavysteam wrote:
> In the Nikon lineup, professional starts with the letter "F". The N90s is
> not one of Nikon's professional-line cameras.
Everywhere else in the world the N90s is called the F90x. It is indeed very much
a professional camera.
Mark Bergman
you'll find Nikon calling it a professional camera.
The really question that was asked was if I can only afford a N90s or a N80
which one should I buy. The N80 offers better lock on and track AF than the
N90s. Great for basketball and stuff. Otherwise the N90s is a tougher body
and offers a lot more in my book.
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Don Forsling
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: <<If you want a universal professional camera to handle most
Hello? A professional camera is a camera used by a substantial number
of people who get paid for their photography---and no, I don't include
folks who got lucky with a point-and-shoot shot that they sold to the
local newspaper. But I do include cameras such as the Nikon 80--
series which are used by literally thousands of newspaper and
corporate and university, etc., --
On the other hand, I know where you're coming from. The F's are have
more heft and features and probably last longer (although you'd be a
fool to want more "heft" that a N90s provides unless you like lifting
weights-)-an F4 is simply a joke in the weight department and I
confess that I haven't tried an F5.
One thing puzzles me: How to folks in the rest of the world determine
which Nikon models are professional? Outside the USA, they all start
with the letter "F"
Don Forsling - ddfor...@qwest.net
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Nigel Cummings
darn good camera for the price, I for one, find I use it more than my mamual
F2, F3 Nikons now, the exposure metering is superb, I think I have had only
a handful of faulty exposures in over 400 rolls of film so far.
The 80 does feel a little small in the hand though, so I'd recommend the
MB16 power base, really improves the handling characteristics and frees you
from those darned expensive batteries that most cameras take these days!
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Heavysteam
you'll find Nikon calling it a professional camera.>>
After thinking about it, the simple matter of having an "F" in front of the
model number doesn't make it a pro body. After all, don't the N-series cameras
have an F-designation outside the US? For me personally, I can't consider
the N90 a pro nikon because it does not share features I consider to be Nikon
pro hallmarks, like removable finders. Of course, under that interpretation,
the F100 wouldn't be a pro body either. (And I don't consider it to be one.)
Jeff Andrews
reasons for my choice.
If I didn't have a large number of manual AI lenses I would go for the
N80. It has the 5 AF sensor system and will be compatable with any new
VR lenses Nikon releases ( a dream, maybe). The F/N 90s is not
compatable. On the other hand the price on the F100 is dropping and
coming a lot closer to the N90s. I'd wait a little longer, save up a
little more and go with the F100. If you aren't a pro who needs the
build quality and extra features of the F100, only shoot with AF
lenses, and could care less about VR, get the N80.
Jeff
Supr0011
Is it the best camera ever maden or that I own, no way.
That said, I read the early N80 info with anticipation, only to be let down.
When I finally got a chance to hold the thing, it was so light as to be
toy-like. Unless the few added features are not too important-- I'd go with
the 90. I've dragged mine through hell and it's doing quite well.
Greg Ferguson
supr...@aol.com (Supr0011) wrote:
And, as the owner of an N80 (and a F100), I'll say the N80 is a sweet
camera. It's light, easy to hold, can take a good jolt that made me
think I'd destroyed it, but only got dirt smudges. I think that it
outperforms the N90s for less money.
If you use weight as your criteria for quality or value, then the N90s
will win. If you use features or fit and finish, then I think the N80
will at least hold its own or surpass the N90s.
I use the N80 as often as I do the F100, and take the N80 when I need to
travel light. I think it's a great camera. My wife and daughter like it
too. :-)
Greg
CyberPOP
$650 (brand new N90s)?
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> 3rd possibility: buy a used f100.
>
> you could probably find one close to the price of a new n90s and you'll
> be MUCH happier. best of both worlds: newest tech (like the 80) and
robust
> build (better thant he n90s).
Harkkonen
F90x, mostly because it was bigger and felt more "solid" in my hands. I was
used to using rock solid metal mechanical bodies, so I was not interested in
buying a "toy". The F80 is no toy, it is well built camera, and unless you
mistreat your equipment or are a klutz, it'll last a long time. The only
real issue is usage wear, the F90x and F100 are built to used on a daily
basis. The F80 is not, it is for serious amateur use. The fit and finish of
the camera is excellent. It has many of the F100 features. The F80 offers
plenty of camera for anybody. Besides, if you are going to shoot in real
harsh climates, or a dangerous situation, shoot a manual, mechanical body.
Too much can and will go wrong on any AF body including the F5.
Alexander Grekhov
Jim
>JP
N90s owner... very happy. I also own and use an F.. also a very nice
camera (better if the meter could be relied on) The ability to use
my older converted AI' lenses is important to me. I find the matrix
meter to be reliable and accurate. The manual exposure methods do
just what I tell them. The flash system
is excellent. Its a big enough camera to fit my hands... I find the
lower end EOS and Rebels too small... so I would likely find the N80
too small as well. Hey.. but my old Leica IIIf fit just fine.
It works in 0 degree New England weather, and it worked just fine
in the Everglades last spring.
Only problem? The AF... its fast enough and works great. It is not,
however, compatible with the VR lens. At the moment I have no desire
for the VR lens... 95% of photos are taken on a tripod. If I were
buying new... I would probably spring for the F100... but if that is
out of
ones reach ( and I certainly understand that... same reason I don't
own the 17-35) and Image Stabilization is important to you or you
think it will be important then I consider the N80. If not, then the
N90s is certainly a fine camera.
Jim
fgm...@hotmail.com
I have both. I just bought an N-80 and am selling my N90s. The N90s is
a studier, heftier camera which has the traditional "Nikon Feel". It
will be more similar to your 8008 in that respect.
I would suggest you go and try an N-80 in the store. If you like it,
the N-80 will give you a smaller, lighter camera with easier user
interface, plus a built in flash. I really do like the built in for
when I don't have my flash with me. You also get bracketing without
having to buy the expensive MB-26. But if you don't like the "feel" of
the N-80 it won't matter.
The major tradeoff for me was that I can no longer use my TC-16A
teleconverter even with AF lenses without losing all metering.
The N-80 does not have the meter coupling for anything but AF lenses.
I don't hardly ever use the converter so it doesn't matter that much to
me.
The other things that won't work with metering are extention tubes.
If these things aren't important to you and you have no old manual
focus lenses you want to use do check out the N-80. You may love it
like I did.
In article <93voo9$3to$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
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Frank in Atlanta
Andrew Mintz
work. If no, what is the issue?
In article <94q5kk$68t$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
fgm...@hotmail.com
the N-80. I know the Nikon extention tubes will not support metering
on the N-80. I have wondered about Tamron or Sigma Tele-extenders as
well but haven't actually tried one.
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Andrew Mintz
tubes.
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