Jewish Mafia (B and H Photo and Video and Adorama)

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Jim Phelps

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Jul 31, 2003, 5:27:19 AM7/31/03
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OK, For you "STRANGE" is mild. You have won the very austere position of
being the first person in my KILLFILE.

Wow!!! I'm not sure you've lost your grip on reality. I just don't think
you can identify it!!!

I'm not about to enter into a longwinded discussion on the merits and
problems of the various political, economical and social systems. A quick
view of your ranting show, with it's chaotic ramblings, you to be over the
line into a paranoid-schizophrenic sociopathy that should be treatable with
lithium and electroshock.

Wow!!! Now I understand why you hang out at alt.drugs.psychedelics.

"Comrade" <avera...@mysolution.ws> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.07.31....@mysolution.ws...
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 06:56:22 +0000, Jim Phelps wrote:
>
> > You are a very STRANGE dude. Please take your socialist babble
somewhere
> > else and leave us capitalist alone.
> >
> > FWIW, socialism doesn't work.
>
> see my ROAD TO THE UNITED FRONT http://www.mysolution.ws with 2nd
> generation socialist ideas http://www.mysolution.ws/industry.htm
> that allow for privitization first, under
> rulesets by which it does not matter who owns what, and therefore the
> materialism game, comes to an end, and people and socialism are truly
> effected
>
>
> go to these groups
>
> alt.society.labor-unions
> alt.military.retired
> soc.culture.african.american
> alt.drugs.psychedelics
> alt.politics.communism
>
> read this thread
>
> Subject: they're suggesting camelot again
>
> (DNC is having covention in holy city of boston)
>
> participate politically as you see fit
> (emphasis on political, for sanity purposes)
>
> A MILLION YIPPIE MARCH IS PLANNED
> http://members.aol.com/stewa/YippieMarchpage.html
>
> and upon this day, if John McCain comes, and brings POW-MIA to make an
> alliance with the hippies, and resolves the 60's, we shall resolve TODAY
>
> come to the MILLION YIPPIE MARCH John McCain and bring the Hell's Angels
> and all 1% motorcycle clubs, like the horses of the Book of Revelation are
> riding in on that city via the march that day
>
> as with any 1%
>
> DNC is trying to sell us camelot as the answer again
>
> they see aristocracy has exposed themselves
>
> they see our ZEAL in their defeat in 2004
>
> and these lesser aristocrats think our aspirations and ZEAL are an
> opportunity for them to climb the ladder, at our expense, so they can be
> the greater aistocrats
>
>
> we're trying to fight aristocracy and do away with Grand Old Party, GOP,
> republican party and aristocracy
>
> and the DNC is holding their convention in their holy city of Boston
>
> we have seen the course of events of camelot and false leftists
>
> they make a big bunch of allusion of promises
>
> JFK gets elected
>
> fucks with labor and peoples' movements (hoffa and castro, etc.)
>
> gives his brother RFK a peoples' job via NEPOTISM to fuck with labor and
> people
>
> and then JFK and RFK get whacked and their wives say "silly communists"
> did it, and then we are back to a confused nation of anarchy, taking
> several decades to come to any clarity on
>
> the proletarian handshake with the libertarian, MUST BE STRONG AND
> ABSOLUTE, or aristocracy will prevail
>
> I suggest some sobreity by DNC in moving the convention to a place that
> represents BOTH proletarians and libertarians
>
> good mix of manufacturing, tech community, and culture
>
> Boston does not have the manufacturing base and does not give us
> proletarian revelry
>
> San Fran, is a little better
>
> Pittsburgh/Detroit/Buffalo/Cleveland do not broker the cultural allusion
> enough
>
> Vegas/Atlantic City/Reno - used to say we are going to let the working man
have
> fun, and that we are the fun people, but said working men cannot afford
> Vegas anymore
>
> where can be present the idea, that we are the funnest people of all? I
> say it all has been made a pig bin, we need something pristine and clean
>
> Denver, Colorado
> Sturgis, South Dakota
> Montana
>
> maybe Oregon, lots of real left stuff goes on there
>
> let's us, make it clear, that WE are the heartland, and they rob men of
> heart
>
> you might not be in Kansas anymore Dorothy, but it looks like that is
> where you are headed back to
>
> let's us, make it clear, that WE are the heartland, and they rob men of
> heart
>
> let's us, make it clear, that WE are the heartland, and they rob men of
> heart
>
>
> NOW, ofcourse you know we will vote for a liar , instead of the outright
> devil, and you will get out votes, BUT, we do intend to try to make you
> live up to "the allusion", politically ofcourse, realize when you spit
> on the aspirations of men, and their blood and sweat and tears, some of
> those men, are not as contrite and restrained as I, and we who know
> anarchy and violence justs presents a barrier to solidarity in an existing
> democracy, try our hardest to bring such people to their senses, and we
> are tying to make some sanity of this, but you are not helping
>
> now you know what really started the 60's my friends ......
>
> every revolution is always a fight of communal common men, over
> aristocracy, and when DNC sold out man's only political avenue against GOP
> and aristocracy, the common man had no viable political avenuem and now
> you know what really started the 60's my friends ......
>
> Vietnam wanted its independence from colonial France, such independence
was
> not on economic terms that capitalist USA liked, USA took France's side
>
> John McCain had to go live in a cage for 5 years, over this aristocratic
> agenda
>
> John McCain is going to bring back every POW-MIA back to the LEFT with the
> truth that the use of our working men, for "agenda" must be seen for WHAT
> IS WAS, and WHAT IT IS TODAY
>
> Sharpton on CNN Crossfire today, has said, if elected, the Iraq issue gets
> turned over to the United Nations, the coalition ends, and our
> participation in foreign events will be by the vehicle of the United
> Nations and democracy and NEVER a coalition in spite of such
>
> adn we can take our revoluton VERY far, by not spitting on the police and
> military this time, who are just doing their jobs, we need to get at the
> big pigs in the starched white shirts, politically, and VERY politically
>
> A MILLION YIPPIE MARCH IS PLANNED
> http://members.aol.com/stewa/YippieMarchpage.html
>
> and upon this day, if John McCain comes, and brings POW-MIA to make an
> alliance with the hippies, and resolves the 60's, we shall resolve TODAY
>
> come to the MILLION YIPPIE MARCH John McCain and bring the Hell's Angels
> and all 1% motorcycle clubs, like the horses of the Book of Revelation are
> riding in on that city via the march that day
>
>
> http://www.hells-angels.com/
>
> make the call John McCain and organize this ride,
> for the MILLION YIPPIE MARCH, John McCain
>
> http://members.aol.com/stewa/YippieMarchpage.html John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> v
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> John McCain
>
> I get about 1000 hits/day on my FRONT site, about 5 hits/minute
>
> from all over the world, from usenet participation alone, and 1 or 2 hits
> from search engines, referrals and links to my site on other sites are
> growing, and I thank the search engines and referers for such,
> PEOPLE HEAR WHAT I WRITE HERE
>
> from all over the world
>
> Belgium
> Denmark
> Germany
> Finland
> Netherlands
> Rome
> England
> Canada
> Australia
> Poland
> all over USA (Virginia, and Maryland, top on list)
> the Orient, Beijing, etc.
>
> see my ROAD TO THE UNITED FRONT http://www.mysolution.ws with 2nd
> generation socialist ideas that allow for privitization first, under
> rulesets by which it does not matter who owns what, and therefore the
> materialism game, comes to an end, and people and socialism are truly
> effected
>
> I get about 1000 hits/day on my FRONT site, about 5 hits/minute
>
>
> from all over the world, from usenet participation alone, and 1 or 2 hits
> from search engines, referrals and links to my site on other sites are
> growing, and I thank the search engines and referers for such,
> PEOPLE HEAR WHAT I WRITE HERE
>
> why is there a sound of silence here? the words of the prophets are only
> spoken in the subway walls, and tenement halls, they are whispered out of
> fear, BUT THEY ARE INDEED by traffic analysis, being whispered
>
> Hello darkness, my old friend,
> I've come to talk with you again,
> Because a vision softly creeping,
> Left its seeds while I was sleeping,
> And the vision that was planted in my brain
> Still remains
> Within the sound of silence.
>
> In restless dreams I walked alone
> Narrow streets of cobblestone,
> 'Neath the halo of a street lamp,
> I turned my collar to the cold and damp
> When my eyes were stabbed by the flash of a neon light
> That split the night
> And touched the sound of silence.
>
> And in the naked light I saw
> Ten thousand people, maybe more.
> People talking without speaking,
> People hearing without listening,
> People writing songs that voices never share
> And no one dare
> Disturb the sound of silence.
>
> "Fools" said I, "You do not know
> Silence like a cancer grows.
> Hear my words that I might teach you,
> Take my arms that I might reach you."
> But my words like silent raindrops fell,
> And echoed
> In the wells of silence
>
> And the people bowed and prayed
> To the neon god they made.
> And the sign flashed out its warning,
> In the words that it was forming.
> And the sign said, "The words of the prophets
> are written on the subway walls
> And tenement halls."
> And whisper'd in the sounds of silence.
>
> - Paul Simon -
> "Wednesday Morning 3A.M.", 1964
>
>
>
> --
> Comrade
> see my ROAD TO THE UNITED FRONT http://www.mysolution.ws
> the aristocracy was the problem in 1776, the aristocracy is the problem
today
> http://www.aclu.org/dissentreport
> Aristocrats CRUCIFIED Jesus
> we must close the door by which aristocracy arises
>
> Martin Luther King Jr said
> "I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the
true
> meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all
> men are created equal."
>
> and their creed became, I REFUSE TO DREAM
>
> and when we REFUSE TO DREAM? when we go on a strike? when we propose
> laissez faire with respect to what we control? WELL, you see the story of
> laissez faire changes quick, immediately there is not a hands-off policy,
> and we are forced back to work, via anti-strike legislations, Taft-Hartley
> acts, etc., not only are we not allowed to dream our dream, we are forced
> to keep dreaming their's, we are niether allowed to dream or not dream,
> and such is how Pharoah robs a man of his asylum in himself, and sets up
> Pharoah as man's only asylum (http://www.mysolution.ws/cabal.htm)
>
> Statements of supposed science, without statistics, are just as much
religion,
> and ONLY statements of faith as any religion, or statement of faith,
> except they profess the supposed scientist is God, even more
> dangerous than religion or God. There is no science, without a statement
of
> statistics, AND any statement without statistics, is a conjecture of faith
> by the professor of such statement, and the "believer". An ethical
> house cleaning of science and government is in order.
>
> "Does God want goodness? or the choice of goodness?
> Is the man who chooses bad, somehow better,
> than the man who has the good forced upon him?"
> a quote from the movie, A Clockwork Orange, Kubrick
>
> Enlightenment is man's release from his self-incurred tutelage.
> Tutelage is man's inability to make use of his understanding
> without direction from another. Self-incurred is this tutelage when
> its cause lies not in lack of reason but in lack of resolution
> and courage to use it without direction from another. Sapere aude!
> "Have courage to use your own reason!" - that is the motto
> of enlightenment.
> Kant -- What Is Enlightenment? 1784
>
> "It all sums up into one single purpose,
> the abolition of dog-eat-dog under which we live...
> and I traveled the United Front road to get it."
> -- Roger Baldwin, Co-Founder ACLU (American Civil Liberties Union)
>
> "Timothy Leary's dead, No No No No, He's outside, looking in
> Timothy Leary's dead, No No No No, He's outside, looking in"
> MOODY BLUES
>
> "Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the
Pharisees and of the Sadducees."--Matthew 16:6
> (religious and political leaders that are hypocrites)
>
> (leaven is yeast, AIR IN BREAD, bullshit, fluff, marketing, snake oil -
HYPOCRISY)
>
> "How is it that ye do not understand that I spake it not to you concerning
bread, that ye should beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the
Sadducees? Then understood they how that he bade them not beware of the
leaven of bread, but of the doctrine of the Pharisees and of the
Sadducees."--Matthew 16:11-12
>
> "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the
kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither
suffer ye them that are entering to go in."--Matthew 23:13
>
> "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows'
houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the
greater damnation."--Matthew 23:14
>
> "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and
land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more
the child of hell than yourselves."--Matthew 23:15
>
> "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint
and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law,
judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave
the other undone."--Matthew 23:23
>
> "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the
outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion
and excess."--Matthew 23:25
>
> "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto
whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within
full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness."--Matthew 23:27
>
> "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the
tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the
righteous,"--Matthew 23:29
>
> "And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the
Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod."--Mark 8:15
>
> "And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love
to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,"--Mark
12:38
>
>
> see my ROAD TO THE UNITED FRONT http://www.mysolution.ws
>

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Tony Whitaker

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Jul 31, 2003, 7:05:57 AM7/31/03
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xcai...@yahoo.com (nick) wrote in
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> I have dealt with B&H, you know, those weirdos with
> the funny clothes and hats ( my grandad's brother's gold earing was
> also a bit of a stretch) for 25 years or so.

It's interesting to note too that B&H and Adorama are frequently referred
to in this newsgroup as 2 of the few New York mail order stores you can
trust.

Tony Whitaker

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Jul 31, 2003, 7:08:59 AM7/31/03
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Mxsmanic <mxsm...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:t0kgivkedkbu2f35k...@4ax.com:

> But did B&H
> observe Jewish holidays from the beginning, or did it begin to do so
> after building up a large proportion of Jewish employees?

Why do you care? I don't.

Eric Colar

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Jul 31, 2003, 7:10:37 AM7/31/03
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So will I!
Actually, I just ordered from them yesterday, so that reassuring.
Thanks for the information, anyway...
--
Eric

"Tony Whitaker" <newsgroups@t_o_n_y_whitaker.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93C8B5E846C23ne...@198.99.146.10...
> gen...@surfy.net (Gentile) wrote in
> news:a2eddc90.03073...@posting.google.com:
>
> > It is well known in NYC that B&H, Adorama, and several other New York
> > camera shops are controlled by the Jewish Mafia.
>
> Cool. Thanks for informing me about that. I'll do *ALL* my business with
> them now.
>
> Because that's really super-cool, dude.


Alan Browne

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Jul 31, 2003, 9:00:51 AM7/31/03
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Gentile wrote:
> It is well known in NYC that B&H, Adorama, and several other New York

> camera shops are controlled by the Jewish Mafia. That should explain
> why all of their employees are Jewish.

Only assholes write things like this.

Browntimdc

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Jul 31, 2003, 9:13:51 AM7/31/03
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He makes elaborate wooden boxes in his little shack in the middle of
Wyoming.

"comradeasswipe" <comradethean...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:bg9d4u$2c9$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk:

> And what do you do in your leisure time ......


>
>
>
> "Comrade" <avera...@mysolution.ws> wrote in message

> news:pan.2003.07.30....@mysolution.ws...


>> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 11:27:21 -0700, Gentile wrote:
>>
>> > It is well known in NYC that B&H, Adorama, and several other New
>> > York camera shops are controlled by the Jewish Mafia. That should
>> > explain why all of their employees are Jewish.
>>

>> it's not the Jews, they are just a symbol used by the bigger social
>> order that uses the bible as a CABAL, and Zionism a part of it, a
>> very prostitution of the Jews themselves, especially having ANYTHING
>> to do with such "users" as a Jew

Comrade

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Jul 31, 2003, 9:43:43 AM7/31/03
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:13:51 +0000, Browntimdc wrote:

> little shack

actually I make love in my love shack
http://www.mysolution.ws/freelove.htm

Comrade

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Jul 31, 2003, 9:44:51 AM7/31/03
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On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:13:51 +0000, Browntimdc wrote:

> He makes elaborate wooden boxes in his little shack in the middle of
> Wyoming.

actually., I make love in my love shack

Alan Browne

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Jul 31, 2003, 9:45:19 AM7/31/03
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ajacobs2 wrote:
> What can I say after reading all this dribble...........
>
> SCHMUCK!
>
> And listen you anti-semetic mound of dogshit it's not the Jewish Mafia.
> get it right.................. It's the KOSHER NOSTRA!
>
>


Great!

Fritz Dold

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Jul 31, 2003, 9:46:57 AM7/31/03
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> why all of their employees are Jewish.

How do you know they are all Jewish?

I have bought from B&H and Adorama and will do so in the future. They are
reasonably cheap (much cheaper than at home in Europe), offer good service
and ship abroad without much problems.

Why should I care what they believe in? Do you always check out people's
faith or non-faith before buying with them? Why is religion such a big deal
for some people?

Going to B&H (and maybe the NYC jewelry district too) is about the only
place on earth (apart from Israel) where you are able to listen to people
speaking Yiddish, and if you are German like me you even understand 90% of
them!

Fritz


Browntimdc

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Jul 31, 2003, 10:16:10 AM7/31/03
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"Comrade" <avera...@mysolution.ws> wrote in
news:pan.2003.07.31....@mysolution.ws:

> On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:13:51 +0000, Browntimdc wrote:
>
>> little shack
>
> actually I make love in my love shack
> http://www.mysolution.ws/freelove.htm
>

You didn't even get the joke you Ted Kakzinski prick!

Al Dykes

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Jul 31, 2003, 11:26:44 AM7/31/03
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In article <3f280...@news.syr.edu>,
Alexander K. <aile...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Actually, there is a very nice Iraqi guy working at the lasolite
>reflectors...
>
>Oooppsss...
>

Can't speak to this guy specifically, but there are Iragi jews, for a
couple of thousand years, and due to the 30 years of anti-semetic
gov't there I bet most Iraqi jews are now everywhere else, but Iraq.


>BTW, keep the politics off photography please... there are other newsgroups
>for that...
>"Polytone" <poly...@prodigy.net> wrote in message
>news:n7UVa.7333$nC....@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
>> That figures.


>>
>>
>> > It is well known in NYC that B&H, Adorama, and several other New York
>> > camera shops are controlled by the Jewish Mafia. That should explain

>> > why all of their employees are Jewish.
>>
>>
>
>


--
Al Dykes
-----------
ady...@panix.com

George Kerby

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Jul 31, 2003, 11:38:46 AM7/31/03
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You know, you crossposting idiots have WAYYYY too much time on your hands...

Al Dykes

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Jul 31, 2003, 11:58:34 AM7/31/03
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In article <t0kgivkedkbu2f35k...@4ax.com>,
Mxsmanic <mxsm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Marvin Margoshes writes:
>
>> The stores close on Jewish holidays. That is extremely
>> important to the people who work there.
>
>I can see how that would attract Jewish job applicants. But did B&H


>observe Jewish holidays from the beginning, or did it begin to do so
>after building up a large proportion of Jewish employees?
>

>--

Before there was B&H (or at least my awareness of it, about 1990)
there was a similar hign-end camera store called 47Th St Photo, on
..... 47th st. I first shopped there in the late 60's. It was
cramped, and on the christian shopping holidays it was packed elbow to
elbow, like the subway, and it could take hours to get to a counter
salesman, and then to checkout. By comparison B&H, at it's busiest,
is like a fast food joint.

47th was owned and staffed with orthadox jews, and had the same
reputation as B&H has now (at least as far as I knew). The location
was smack in the middle of the NYC diamond district, which is a single
block in Manhattan, which everyone probably knows is essentially an
all-jewish business.

At some point in the late 80's the 47th St owner ran into tax problems
and the place folded. As I understand it his problems were personal,
there was never any claim by anyone that he gyped customers or
employees. We were sorry to see it go. I've always wondered that B&H
was started by ex-47th employees.

The diamond district played some roll in two movies; Marathon Man
(1976) starring Dustin Hoffman, (a nazi-hunting story) and Snatch
(2000) (very funn diamind heist flick). Rent them and you'll see
47th st and people that look like the people that work at 47th/BH.

To this day there are rip-off camera stores in manhattan with
names and signs that intend to look like 47th Photo.

I'm a fan of B&H.

Polytone

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Jul 31, 2003, 12:06:50 PM7/31/03
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The original poster never said a single bad thing against jews. He was just
repeating a rumor that is floating around New York.

"Jeremy" <jer...@no-spam-thanks.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> I'm not Jewish, and I was born after WW II ended. I cannot comprehend how
> any nation could have killed 6 million souls, along with another 5 million
> Gentiles that were perceived as either having supported them or been in
some
> way associated with them.
>
> And her we have a thread started by an anti-semite, that has gotten a
large
> number of replies (including one or two from me). Not everyone that
replied
> opposed the original poster's message.
>
> I learned--just the other day--that the new Palestinian negotiator, who
just
> met with George Bush the other day, wrote his doctoral dissertation on the
> subject of the Holocaust. He argued that it never happened. He alleged
> that it was a "plot" between the Nazis and some Jews to get sympathy (?)
He
> said that "only" a hundred thousand souls were murdered, not millions!
>
> I consider myself someone that tryes to stay up to date on events. How, I
> ask myself, could I not have heard this before?
>
> Another question that I ask myself is how could this evil attitude toward
> Jews remain in existence after all this time? What did B&H ever do to
> anyone that they would be smeared and villified in this way?
>
> I'd worry about the person that started this awful thread, long before I'd
> ever be concerned with B&H!
>
> Have we learned nothing from 9/11?
>
>
>


Lisa Duskis

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Jul 31, 2003, 12:27:33 PM7/31/03
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> Going to B&H (and maybe the NYC jewelry district too) is about the only
> place on earth (apart from Israel) where you are able to listen to people
> speaking Yiddish, and if you are German like me you even understand 90% of
> them!

Except, of course, if your husband's family is jewish, and thus you hear
yiddish quite often ;)


Yechidah

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Jul 31, 2003, 12:29:31 PM7/31/03
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Yes Jeremy. It is a history of suffering and angst the Jews have had, yet we
remain still standing - with Hashem by our side, everlasting.

All of our trials - each one of our tribulations - from our enslavement by
the Egyptians, to our wandering in the desert, to reaching the Promised
Land, to the burning of our Temples, to the genocide by Babylonians, Greeks,
Romans, Christians, Nazis, Hamas - we look to Hashem for salvation and
redemption. We cry - enough! Enough we have suffered, enough blood has been
shed. We KNOW now Hashem. We know that we have strayed from Your Covenant
Hashem. We know that we've done wrong and are WILLING to change our ways to
Your Way, Your Torah.

It has taken us a long time to figure this out Jeremy. Our G-D has been very
merciful in allowing us to survive this long - to witness the ultimate
Salvation - the final Redemption through sending us Mashiach and rebuilding
of our blessed Temple.

All roads have led us to this place and time. Those that would have us
destroyed - will be destroyed. Those that would bless us and count
themselves as one of Hashem's children - by following His laws - they will
be blessed with a portion of the World to Come.

Your postive regard for our people is welcomed.

Blessings,
Yechidah

Jeremy

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> Yes Jeremy. It is a history of suffering and angst the Jews have had, yet
we
> remain still standing - with Hashem by our side, everlasting.
>
> All of our trials - each one of our tribulations - from our enslavement by
> the Egyptians, to our wandering in the desert, to reaching the Promised
> Land, to the burning of our Temples, to the genocide by Babylonians,
Greeks,
> Romans, Christians, Nazis, Hamas - we look to Hashem for salvation and
> redemption. We cry - enough! Enough we have suffered, enough blood has
been
> shed.

Well, I can't really say that I think that this crazy thread is part of a
bigger plan to attack Jews, but I could certainly be wrong.

What I find troubling is how quickly some people have jumped on the
bandwagon and have expressed obnoxious sentiments against your people. It
would have been different if, perhaps, your people had a history of
oppressing others, as did the Nazis. But what crime have you (I'm speaking
collectively) comitted to warrant all that continuing hatred?

I thought we were more civilized. I didn't know that we still had such sick
pups among us.


Yechidah

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I thought it was pretty evident given the state of the world as it is. There
is just so much one can blame one nation for. When one looks at the entire
world landscape from ecological to political to personal one gets the notion
that we're in a state of mass chaos. There is a war going on all fronts - on
the battlefields of Iraq and within the hearts of mankind.

How the Jews fit into this? We are the Lights unto the Nations. When we
begin to fill our roles with presence of mind, spirit and body - doing what
we are destined to do - TEACH the world Torah - the spiritual malaise that
has got the world in its grip will cease forever.

What we are witnessing here and *out there* are symptoms of severe spiritual
illness. Nothing more. Nothing less.

May Hashem send us Mashiach soon to help us.

Blessings,
Yechidah

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Dallas D

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Liar. You had a very different attitude towards B&H only a few months ago.

Is it schizophrenia or amnesia that ails you?

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> gen...@surfy.net (Gentile) wrote:
>
> >It is well known in NYC that B&H, Adorama, and several other New York
> >camera shops are controlled by the Jewish Mafia. That should explain
> >why all of their employees are Jewish.
>
>

> Who cares? As long as the prices are reasonable, the service is good,
> and warranties are honoured, I will buy from a shop regardless of the
> nationality, ethnic origin or religion of the owner(s).
>


Bhup

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I think I will be making a point of buying from these mafia shops. They have
low prices.
I am not even jewish .. but I will now positivly shop there .thanks

B
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PTRAVEL

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Interesting about 47th Photo. I remember them well, from when I lived in
New York up through the 70s. I've noticed ads in the camera magazines that
appeared to be for the store that I knew. I'm sorry to hear that they're
merely pretenders.

As for the list of films about the Diamond District, there's a movie with
Meg Ryan, the name of which escapes me at the moment, in which she plays a
detective who goes undercover among the Brooklyn Hassidim to investigate a
Diamond District murder.


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Marvin Margoshes

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"Jeremy" <jer...@no-spam-thanks.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
>
> I'm not Jewish, and I was born after WW II ended. I cannot comprehend how
> any nation could have killed 6 million souls, along with another 5 million
> Gentiles that were perceived as either having supported them or been in
some
> way associated with them.
>
> And her we have a thread started by an anti-semite, that has gotten a
large
> number of replies (including one or two from me). Not everyone that
replied
> opposed the original poster's message.
>
> I learned--just the other day--that the new Palestinian negotiator, who
just
> met with George Bush the other day, wrote his doctoral dissertation on the
> subject of the Holocaust. He argued that it never happened. He alleged
> that it was a "plot" between the Nazis and some Jews to get sympathy (?)
He
> said that "only" a hundred thousand souls were murdered, not millions!
>
> I consider myself someone that tryes to stay up to date on events. How, I
> ask myself, could I not have heard this before?
>
> Another question that I ask myself is how could this evil attitude toward
> Jews remain in existence after all this time? What did B&H ever do to
> anyone that they would be smeared and villified in this way?
>
An antisemite may know nothing about Jews, so he goes by stereotypes. On a
troopship back to my division after I recovered from my first wound in WW
II, I overheard someone telling a group of soldiers that there were no Jews
in the infantry. I told him I was a Jew in the infantry. He told me that I
couldn't be a Jew because I didn't have horns!

Nicholas O. Lindan

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"Jeremy" <jer...@no-spam-thanks.com> wrote

> How about ... Cambridge Camera Exchange--werem't they,
> too, run by the "Jewish Mafia?"

It wouldn't surprise me.

> Why aren't THEY still in business? Wrong "family?"

They that get greedy, get nothing.

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Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics.

NJ

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PTRAVEL wrote in rec.photo.digital:

> As for the list of films about the Diamond District, there's a movie
> with Meg Ryan, the name of which escapes me at the moment, in which
> she plays a detective who goes undercover among the Brooklyn Hassidim
> to investigate a Diamond District murder.
>


Try Melanie Griffith (that's ok I get them mixed up too!) :)

and the movie is... A Stranger Among Us

NoOneYouKnow

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"NJ" <donot...@email.xyz> wrote in message
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Eww. How?

---JRE---

NJ

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NoOneYouKnow wrote in rec.photo.digital:

>> Try Melanie Griffith (that's ok I get them mixed up too!) :)
>
> Eww. How?
>

The same way the other poster did.

NoOneYouKnow

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"NJ" <donot...@email.xyz> wrote in message
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Let me emphasize my first word, eeewwww.

I know they're both blond, but one can act, is good looking, and seems to be
reasonably intelligent. The other can't act, has had a few too many
collagen injections, and doesn't seem like the brightest bulb on the
christmas tree.

---JRE---

Charlie D

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Jul 31, 2003, 3:35:02 PM7/31/03
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In article <viinqt2...@corp.supernews.com>,
"Marvin Margoshes" <physnos...@cloud9.net> wrote:

> An antisemite may know nothing about Jews, so he goes by stereotypes. On a
> troopship back to my division after I recovered from my first wound in WW
> II, I overheard someone telling a group of soldiers that there were no Jews
> in the infantry. I told him I was a Jew in the infantry. He told me that I
> couldn't be a Jew because I didn't have horns!

Got lucky with that nurse, huh? ;)

--
Charlie Dilks
Newark, DE USA

comp.user

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Bhup wrote:

> I think I will be making a point of buying from these mafia shops. They have
> low prices.
> I am not even jewish .. but I will now positivly shop there .thanks

If it's true that B&H is run by the Jewish mafia, you should consider
shopping elsewhere. Because they are mafia, not because they are Jewish.

T P

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Bob Sull <w8...@arrl.net> wrote:
>
>And your point is.......?
>
>Keep your political views out of this newsgroup.


His views certainly appear sectarian,
but in no way do they appear political.

Lisa Duskis

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Jul 31, 2003, 3:37:14 PM7/31/03
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so that explains the lumps on my friend's head.... (kidding)

but.... since we're on this kinda thing, do all Jews have big noses? I have
a few Jewish friends that have noses that you could hide under (ok, slight
exaggeration) in a rain shower, yet hubby's nose isn't exactly big....

maybe we should have a poll?

I take it the stereotypical Jew is miserly with his/her money, speaks
yiddish and has a big nose?

Whereas looking at my hubby, you couldn't tell he was Jewish (granted he's
got dark skin though... )

*this gentile hoping that she's not offending the Jewish peoples
participating in this quite enlightening thread*

-- L


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Fletis Humplebacker

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"Bhup"

> I think I will be making a point of buying from these mafia shops. They have
> low prices.
> I am not even jewish .. but I will now positivly shop there .thanks
>
> B


Besides that, if the FedEx guy substitutes a brick for your
70-200 2.8 zoom lense or something they'll send an accountant
over named Ira Finklestein to bury him in paper and red tape.


Igor

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Jul 31, 2003, 3:45:39 PM7/31/03
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Dear Gentile,

We have also:

1.) Started World War II

2.) Sold this country to the Japanese in the 80's. (BTW, where's my share?)

3.) Stole your Lucky Charms (Wait... was that us or the Irish?)


The Jews.

Weng Leong

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Jeremy wrote:
> I learned--just the other day--that the new Palestinian negotiator,
> who just met with George Bush the other day, wrote his doctoral
> dissertation on the subject of the Holocaust. He argued that it
> never happened. He alleged that it was a "plot" between the Nazis
> and some Jews to get sympathy (?) He said that "only" a hundred
> thousand souls were murdered, not millions!

Certainly gives new meaning to the word "doctoral" ... as in "doctoring"
history.

About 8 years ago, after my undergraduate studies, I went on a backpacking
trip in Europe. The itinerary included a visit to Auschwitz. Behind large
glass displays I saw bales of human hair, meant for weaving into haircloth,
and piles of empty cans once filled with a cyanide compound. I also saw
incinerators for human bodies and shower rooms outfitted as gas chambers.
These are images not easily forgotten.

If anyone can deny that the Holocaust happened, they can live in their own
shell and dream up their own fantasy world. But then the baseness of
race/religious hatred has always had the power to completely shut out the
loftier human qualities of reason and compassion. Sad isn't it?

- Weng Leong


Michael Scarpitti

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Tony Whitaker <newsgroups@t_o_n_y_whitaker.com> wrote in message news:<Xns93C947C6229D0ne...@198.99.146.10>...
> xcai...@yahoo.com (nick) wrote in
> news:e6cea954.03073...@posting.google.com:
>
> > I have dealt with B&H, you know, those weirdos with
> > the funny clothes and hats ( my grandad's brother's gold earing was
> > also a bit of a stretch) for 25 years or so.
>
> It's interesting to note too that B&H and Adorama are frequently referred
> to in this newsgroup as 2 of the few New York mail order stores you can
> trust.

But almost of theme are Jewish-owned, as far as I know, including the
infamous Cambridge Camera. This proves nothing one way or the other.
The whole point is really that the New York camera mail order business
was set up in the 40's by a few firms that edged into the marketplace
by undercutting local retailers and advertising in Popular and Modern
Photography. Since cameras were high-value items, price was a big
issue, and continues to be so today. Often, though, the advertised
price was a come-on. Retailers in other cities have had to deal with
this phenomenon for years, and as a result, prices in local shops are
often not that much different from mail order. Processing helped
retailers make up the difference, with cameras often sold at or below
cost. The logic was to get a customer by selling him a nice camera at
a great price, and keeping him by offering processing and accessories,
where the profit is to be made.

With digital, processing is not there to support the overhead, so I
think the local camera shop is doomed.

Yechidah

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Slowly there are people from all of the nations who are waking up to
themselves and to their hearts saying to themselves that *things don't quite
compute* any longer. So, while the world is busy trying to find logic in
things, the Jews must tell you that there is no logic, no reasons which can
be quantified. There is Hashem's will that the world exists, it is Hashem's
will that we learn through the path of suffering. It is Hashem's will that
we get to the level of Understanding so that this Wisdom be incorporated
into life itself - so that the suffering be turned into blessing - darkness
into Light.


Blessings,
Yechidah


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Lisa Duskis

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oooohhhhh....

thats goooood :P

-- Lisa

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Juan R. Pollo

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I hear that if you double cross them, they send you to sleep with the
gefilte fishes

Juan

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Gregory W. Blank

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In article <3f29...@nocnews001.allthesites.org>, "Lisa Duskis" <lmsN...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> but.... since we're on this kinda thing, do all Jews have big noses? I have
> a few Jewish friends that have noses that you could hide under (ok, slight
> exaggeration) in a rain shower, yet hubby's nose isn't exactly big....

No, I would think thats more of a Greco Roman type thing.
Down through history peoples have co-mingled so for me
I avoid that type of sterotype. Its always interesting talking
with newly introduced Jewish friends, that its almost always assumed
that I am Jewish because of my name. But I am not,....my loss
I guess,..... I love kanishes? and of coarse lox spread in cream cheese.

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In article <rGeWa.82184$0v4.5...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Juan R. Pollo" <jrp...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

> I hear that if you double cross them, they send you to sleep with the
> gefilte fishes
> Juan

Filthy fishes? I thought with all that swimming around they would be clean by now ;-)

Lisa Duskis

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EWWWWW!!!!

lox? LOX?? I've never tried it, but the description is enough to turn me off
it...

and forget about the gifelte fish!


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PTRAVEL

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Ah, thanks! And I always get them mixed up, even though I think Meg Ryan is
cuter. ;)


Juan R. Pollo

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Used to be like that in Miami Beach, too, until the hip and artsy types
displaced the old folks.

Juan

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>
> > Going to B&H (and maybe the NYC jewelry district too) is about the only
> > place on earth (apart from Israel) where you are able to listen to
people
> > speaking Yiddish, and if you are German like me you even understand 90%
of
> > them!
>
> Except, of course, if your husband's family is jewish, and thus you hear
> yiddish quite often ;)
>
>


Roe Thomas

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SO, what's your point? Roe

Frank Calidonna

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Jeremy wrote:

> Well, I can't really say that I think that this crazy thread is part of a
> bigger plan to attack Jews, but I could certainly be wrong.
>
> What I find troubling is how quickly some people have jumped on the
> bandwagon and have expressed obnoxious sentiments against your people. It
> would have been different if, perhaps, your people had a history of
> oppressing others, as did the Nazis. But what crime have you (I'm speaking
> collectively) comitted to warrant all that continuing hatred?
>
> I thought we were more civilized. I didn't know that we still had such sick
> pups among us.

Jeremy,

As Ambrose Bierce humorously defined in his Devil's Dictionary- "Idiot- a member
of a large and powerful tribe whose influence in human affairs is dominant and
controlling." Unfortunately he was right. There are a lot of them out there.

Frank

Frank Calidonna

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Lisa, Lisa - fresh Nova Scotia lox with fresh cream cheese on a bagel - or
broiled lobster with melted butter- or a Philly cheese steak- any of the above
with a pre 1965 Ballantine Ale and you are describing heaven.

Frank Rome, NY

Lisa Horton

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