Brazil bans sales of iPhones without chargers

[RichA]

"We don't include charges because it makes packing smaller and more environmentally-friendly..."
Huh? How about when the phone user buys the charger as a separate item?

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-62833037

[nospam]

In article <ccfa3839-ce7c-4906...@googlegroups.com>,

RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> "We don't include charges because it makes packing smaller and more
> environmentally-friendly..."
> Huh? How about when the phone user buys the charger as a separate item?

why would they?

people already have several chargers, so there's no need to include yet
another, which will go unused. it's a waste.

those who have been living in a cave for the last 20 or so years and
don't have *any* usb charger or a computer with usb ports can buy a
charger.

as usual, you're bashing apple for something other companies do,
including samung and google.

<https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/why-does-samsung-not-
include-a-charger-in-the-box/>
The Galaxy S21 series does not have earphones or a charger plug in
the box because Samsung wants to minimise the impact our products
have on the environment.

<https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/17/22628702/google-pixel-6-charger-not-
included>
Google is the latest manufacturer to bid farewell to the in-box
charging brick, saying it expects the Pixel 5A will be the last phone
to include one. That means the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro wonšt include
one when they arrive this fall.

[RichA]

On Friday, 9 September 2022 at 09:56:17 UTC-4, nospam wrote:
> In article <ccfa3839-ce7c-4906...@googlegroups.com>,
> RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "We don't include charges because it makes packing smaller and more
> > environmentally-friendly..."
> > Huh? How about when the phone user buys the charger as a separate item?
> why would they?
>
> people already have several chargers, so there's no need to include yet
> another, which will go unused. it's a waste.
>

Why would everyone buying an Apple phone have an Apple charger? What if you were a first-time buyer?
I think they've expanded their North American market at least so there must be some of them.

[nospam]

In article <179b310b-a5e0-42a8...@googlegroups.com>,

RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > > "We don't include charges because it makes packing smaller and more
> > > environmentally-friendly..."
> > > Huh? How about when the phone user buys the charger as a separate item?
> > why would they?
> >
> > people already have several chargers, so there's no need to include yet
> > another, which will go unused. it's a waste.
> >
>
> Why would everyone buying an Apple phone have an Apple charger?

apple phones use industry standard usb chargers, the very same chargers
that android phones use, along with numerous other devices, including
recent laptops, tablets, bluetooth headsets, smart watches, smart
speakers, travel routers, iot devices and much more.

since many devices use usb for power, there are numerous third party
multi-port chargers that use only one mains outlet, rather than needing
individual chargers for each individual device.

<https://i.ytimg.com/vi/F88h2lBjgFo/maxresdefault.jpg>

> What if you
> were a first-time buyer?

you would use the charger you have from your previous phone or other
device. worst case, use a computer's usb port, which has the added
benefit of easily being able to back up a device to the computer.

most people have *several* chargers, most of which are unused.

the number of people who do not have a single usb charger is almost
zero, which is nowhere near enough to justify including one, which
almost everyone else will leave in the box, unused.

> I think they've expanded their North American market at least so there must be some of them.

long ago, and not relevant.

[geoff]

Um, chances most purchasers already have more USB chargers than they need.

geoff

[geoff]

On 10/09/2022 10:27 am, RichA wrote:
> On Friday, 9 September 2022 at 09:56:17 UTC-4, nospam wrote:
>> In article <ccfa3839-ce7c-4906...@googlegroups.com>,
>> RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "We don't include charges because it makes packing smaller and more
>>> environmentally-friendly..."
>>> Huh? How about when the phone user buys the charger as a separate item?
>> why would they?
>>
>> people already have several chargers, so there's no need to include yet
>> another, which will go unused. it's a waste.
>>
>
> Why would everyone buying an Apple phone have an Apple charger?

Not everyone, but most would have an adequate UB charger. Why would they
inherently want an Apple one ? Oh, yeah, the brainwashing ...

> What if you were a first-time buyer?

Then go buy a charger.

This seems a new level of fuckwittery, even for you !

geoff

[RichA]

Nice they don't say, "Use Apple charges or you may risk damage to your phone."

[nospam]

In article <YemcnWa-wbqNlIH-...@giganews.com>, geoff

<ge...@nospamgeoffwood.org> wrote:

> Um, chances most purchasers already have more USB chargers than they need.

exactly the point.

[nospam]

In article <0237e912-82e4-4e5f...@googlegroups.com>,

RichA <rande...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Nice they don't say, "Use Apple charges or you may risk damage to your phone."

there's no reason for them to say that, as *any* standard usb compliant
charger will work.

unlike many other companies, apple adheres to industry standards. hp,
for example, intentionally blocks non-hp chargers:

<https://images.techhive.com/images/article/2016/03/usb_c_laptop_chartin
g-100649896-orig.png>

there are some no-name chargers that are poorly constructed and pose a
safety risk no matter what device is attached. avoid those.