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New Printers - Epson 2200 vs. HP 7960 ?

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Steve

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Feb 4, 2004, 2:26:23 PM2/4/04
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Thanks to all for your input on camera choices. I used my new Canon
10D last weekend and am very happy so far but I'm still sorting out
how to do a few things with it. I got a lot of great shots at my
daughter's volleyball tournament using the 10D with a Canon L series
70-200 2.8 IS lens. I want to upgrade my printer and would appreciate
some input. I done some research and like the Epson Stylus 2200 but
the HP 7960 is getting strong reviews for a few hundred dollars less.
I'm new to doing digital at this higher level and want a good printer
that will make the best of my photos. I'm willing to spend the extra
bucks for the Epson, but I'm not sure if its necessary. Any input
from the group on these printers (or other printers if I'm missing
something really outstanding) would be appreciated.

Cheers!

Steve

PS - Ideally (but not a requirement)the printer would do double duty
as an everyday printer for text, etc.

Mark C

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Feb 4, 2004, 2:44:44 PM2/4/04
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Steve,

From what I've read.....it seems that the HP is limited in paper size. With
the Epson...you can go to a 13in width....and 44".length

Mark C
Nashville, TN
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AArDvarK

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Feb 4, 2004, 2:45:17 PM2/4/04
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Not to be rude but there is also:

comp.periphs.printers

Valid ink-jet 3rd party archival product sites:
http://www.piezography.com/
http://www.cone-editions.com/
http://coneeditions.com/
http://www.inkjetart.com/
http://www.mediastreet.com/index.html
http://www.lyson.com/includes/frames.html
http://www.digitalartsupplies.com/

Everything "out there" is for Epson. There is
also CIS (coninuous [feed] ink system).
--
Sincerely,
Alex

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Bill Hilton

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Feb 4, 2004, 5:23:03 PM2/4/04
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>From: z...@hopheads.com (Steve)

>I want to upgrade my printer and would appreciate
>some input. I done some research and like the Epson Stylus 2200 but
>the HP 7960 is getting strong reviews for a few hundred dollars less.
>I'm new to doing digital at this higher level and want a good printer
>that will make the best of my photos. I'm willing to spend the extra
>bucks for the Epson, but I'm not sure if its necessary.

I have the 2200 and haven't used the 7960, so factor that in ... I think the
two advantages of the Epson are the wider carriage (13" instead of 8.5") and
the wider range of fully supported Epson papers. You mentioned buying the
Canon 10D ... you should be able to print very nice 12x18" prints from it on
the 2200, for example.

If you're happy with the HP paper choices (only a couple offer the long print
life) and OK with 8x10" prints then the HP is right for you, if not then I'd
say get the Epson.

Bill

Steven Wandy

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Feb 4, 2004, 10:35:58 PM2/4/04
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> Not to be rude but there is also:
>
But you are being rude. Where does it say we can't discuss/give advice about
printers here?


Aram Langhans

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Feb 4, 2004, 10:44:55 PM2/4/04
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I almost bought one of the new HP's for its ability to print b&w so well.
There is no doubt it does a better job than my Epson 1280 with standard
Epson inks. What stopped me one day before I was going to buy was a vist to
a few forums that told of some pretty high costs/page when it came to using
the 3 tone black cartridge. If the prints were very dark, one person said
they got about 10 prints/cartridge. That is very steep. I am the tech
person for our high school. I have noticed the new HP printers using the
same new small cartridges that the 7960 uses (not the three tone) have been
going through way more ink than the older HP printers we have. At first I
attributed it to the HP practice of supplying half charged cartridges with
the printers when new, but the replacements have just flown off the shelves.
I would look into this further before you decided to go HP if you are
planning on doing a lot of B&W printing.

Aram

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Phil Rose

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Feb 4, 2004, 11:48:41 PM2/4/04
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In article <ySiUb.178007$4F2.21...@twister.nyc.rr.com>, Steven Wandy
<Swa...@si.rr.com> wrote:

But... where did he say "we can't discuss/give advice about printers
here"? IMO AARDvarK tried to avoid giving that impression (too subtle
for you?) and he gave advice--good advice. What was your contribution?

Phil

philipp

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Feb 5, 2004, 7:07:46 PM2/5/04
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Any consideration given toward the newer Canon Priters?

Bill Hilton

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Feb 5, 2004, 7:19:10 PM2/5/04
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>From: philipp phil...@comcast.net

>Any consideration given toward the newer Canon Printers?

Since he mentioned two printers with very long estimated print life (70+ years
for the HP with the right paper, 50-90 years for the Epson with six different
papers) I assumed he was interested in long print life (though he didn't
actually say it). The Canon print quality is certainly on par with these but I
think they are estimating around 23-27 years for the longest print life from
the Canon printers, so if that's a key criteria then Canon is not competitive
right now.

>>>From: z...@hopheads.com (Steve)
>>
>>
>>>I want to upgrade my printer and would appreciate
>>>some input. I done some research and like the Epson Stylus 2200 but
>>>the HP 7960 is getting strong reviews for a few hundred dollars less.
>>>I'm new to doing digital at this higher level and want a good printer
>>>that will make the best of my photos. I'm willing to spend the extra
>>>bucks for the Epson, but I'm not sure if its necessary.

Steve

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Feb 5, 2004, 8:41:45 PM2/5/04
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"AArDvarK" <no...@yourprob.com> wrote in message news:<ZYbUb.7636$IF1.1419@fed1read01>...
> Not to be rude but there is also:
>
> comp.periphs.printers

I appreciate that fact and I have gathered some information from other
web sources but I posted the question here because I wanted to get
opinions of photo printers from phographers as opposed to some random
computer geeks.

Not to be rude....

Steve

Steve

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Feb 5, 2004, 8:43:25 PM2/5/04
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bhilt...@aol.comedy (Bill Hilton) wrote in message news:<20040204172303...@mb-m19.aol.com>...

I'm new to the digital side of this hobby but what, for example, am I
giving up in paper choices (other than size) if I go with the HP?

Steve

Bill Hilton

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Feb 5, 2004, 11:47:00 PM2/5/04
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>From: z...@hopheads.com (Steve)

>I'm new to the digital side of this hobby but what, for example, am I
>giving up in paper choices (other than size) if I go with the HP?

Epson offers six papers with the 2200 with full ICM support, three with a more
glossy finish for the Photo black ink (Premium Glossy Photo Paper, Premium
Semi-Gloss and Luster) and three with a softer, more arty finish for the Matte
black ink (Watercolor - Radiant White, Enhanced Matte and Velvet Fine Art).
All have 50+ years estimated print life (
http://www.inkjetart.com/news/longevity/index.html )

I'm not sure how many papers the HP supports for the 7960 but typically HP and
Canon offer just a couple of paper types with full ICM support at the maximum
print life estimate, and rarely anything to compete with the Velvet FA or
Watercolor art papers.

For many people this isn't a big deal as they are happy with one glossy and one
matte or semi-gloss finish but if you like to print different types of images
on different papers the Epson is probably a better solution.

Bill

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