Batch thumbnail JPG lossless rotation that's much faster than Irvanfiew
Bill Wells
folders containing many hundreds of large-size digital photos that I ask if
there is a faster lossless rotation program out there?
The use model would be similar to what Irfanview does in batch mode:
a. View the thumbnails (as many as can fit on a screen)
b. Control-select the thumbnails that require 90-degree rotation (scroll
when necessary)
c. Press the 90-degree lossless-rotation button when ready
I love Irfanview, as do most of us, but, the batch lossless rotation is
frustratingly impossibly slow (all that repainting for nothing).
I ask ......
Is there a faster thumbnail-select batch lossless rotation freeware?
Poutnik
@sbcglobal.net says...
>
>
> I ask ......
> Is there a faster thumbnail-select batch lossless rotation freeware?
Not yet tried lossless rotation as most its features there,
but recently I downloads free FastStone image viewer.
Even if like Irfanview, in some aspects FS seems
at least as much as good. And, it has lossless rotation too.
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Poutnik
Poutnik
> folders containing many hundreds of large-size digital photos that I ask if
> there is a faster lossless rotation program out there?
>
If not tried other faster LL JPG rotating program,
how do you know Irfanview is slow ? :-)
What if lossless rotating IS slow ?
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Poutnik
Bill Wells
> If not tried other faster LL JPG rotating program,
> how do you know Irfanview is slow ? :-)
It isn't the lossless rotation that's slow in Irfanview.
Irfanview is great but in thumbnail mode, with 500 large pictures, and you
rotate just one, Irfanview tediously repaints all 500 thumbnails.
That's what's slow. The repaint of 500 thumbnails when only a few are
changed.
Poutnik
@sbcglobal.net says...
Or, as workaround,
selecting images to rotate,
use move feature
close IV in case it wants to repaint the rest.
Run IV Thumbnails over folder with chosen images
Perform rotation
Move them back
OT here:
I, as photographer, do not see much sense
in keeping 500 images in the only folder.
I would either divide them either
according to time, or topic.
Or, if monolithic,
then probably bigger part can be deleted.
(little joking in last line, but not much )
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Poutnik
Paul Furman
> In article <Z7%el.12284$as4....@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com>, hammer29
> @sbcglobal.net says...
>> On Sun, 25 Jan 2009 09:37:28 +0100, Poutnik wrote:
>>
>>> If not tried other faster LL JPG rotating program,
>>> how do you know Irfanview is slow ? :-)
>> It isn't the lossless rotation that's slow in Irfanview.
>>
>> Irfanview is great but in thumbnail mode, with 500 large pictures, and you
>> rotate just one, Irfanview tediously repaints all 500 thumbnails.
>>
>> That's what's slow. The repaint of 500 thumbnails when only a few are
>> changed.
>
I almost never use thumbnail view in Irfanview. My method for lossless
rotation is shift-J <enter> while browsing. I wasn't aware that could be
done in batch with the thumbnail view!
> OT here:
>
> I, as photographer, do not see much sense
> in keeping 500 images in the only folder.
Not off-topic. Any program is bound to struggle with 500 images in a folder.
> I would either divide them either
> according to time, or topic.
>
> Or, if monolithic,
> then probably bigger part can be deleted.
> (little joking in last line, but not much )
>
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Bill Wells
> Or, as workaround,
>
> selecting images to rotate,
> use move feature
> close IV in case it wants to repaint the rest.
> Run IV Thumbnails over folder with chosen images
> Perform rotation
> Move them back
Ah, you understand the problem!
Today, when I have a lot of pictures to losslessly rotate, I put Irfanview
in thumnails and then select, one by one, a hundred or two hundred pictures
to losslessly rotate in thumbnail view but if I misclick just once ...
auuuuurrrrrrrgggggggghhhhh, I have to start all over again.
To save me from the invariable misclick loss, I would only click on, say,
50 or so pictures to losslessly rotate ... but then I have the inordinate
wait as Irfanview painfully redraws all the thumbnails in the folder, not
just the 100 or so that were losslessly rotated.
IrfanView is great but I might just not use the thumbnail view lossless
rotation selection process and just do it manually like you said, to the
whole folder. At least then, the SELECTION process is simple and watching
the repaint of thumbnails can be stopped or just let run to fruition, once,
thank God.
Bill Wells
> I almost never use thumbnail view in Irfanview. My method for lossless
> rotation is shift-J <enter> while browsing. I wasn't aware that could be
> done in batch with the thumbnail view!
Actually, when I use cameras like my last broken Nikon which save EXIF
orientation inside the picture, then Irfanview AUTOMATICALLY losslessly
rotates all 500 pictures (as needed) in a single step!
For that, the IrfanView use model is simple!
1. Take picture any way you like (90 degrees, 180 degrees, 270 degrees)
2. Open a picture in IrfanView and go into batch mode and wait for repaint
to finish (always slow in Irfanview when you have 500 pictures)
3. Select all pictures and run a lossless rotation based on EXIF
orientation & reset the orientation within Irfanview on all 500 pictures,
all in one fell swoop
Maybe the solution is to go out and buy another camera that automatically
stores EXIF orientation information in the photograph but I'm sick and
tired of the cheap Nikons breaking under load (but that's another OT
topic).
Bill Wells
>> .......
>> If you want to rotate a group of pics, select them all from the
>> thumbnail menu and it will only have to refresh once when it has
>> finished rotating all the selected pictures.
>
> I think it is what the poster has in mind,
> that this refreshing for him takes more time
> then rotating.
Exactly. Poutnik knows what hes talking about!
The refresh takes far more time than the lossless rotate, at least in
IrfanView 4.22 on WinXP.
I'll try Fast One's lossless rotation .... but boy oh boy, Irfanview is so
fast and good in everything else I need that I hate two switch products
without trying for a solution (thanks everyone).
Justin C
> It isn't the lossless rotation that's slow in Irfanview.
>
> Irfanview is great but in thumbnail mode, with 500 large pictures, and you
> rotate just one, Irfanview tediously repaints all 500 thumbnails.
>
> That's what's slow. The repaint of 500 thumbnails when only a few are
> changed.
Mention it to the developers, maybe they'll fix it in the next release.
Justin.
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Poutnik
@sbcglobal.net says...
>
>
> Exactly. Poutnik knows what hes talking about!
>
> The refresh takes far more time than the lossless rotate, at least in
> IrfanView 4.22 on WinXP.
>
> I'll try Fast One's lossless rotation .... but boy oh boy, Irfanview is so
> fast and good in everything else I need that I hate two switch products
> without trying for a solution (thanks everyone).
But, aside of IV problems,
I still think best is avoiding of so huge folders,
as I posted before.
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Poutnik
Bill Wells
> I still think best is avoiding of so huge folders,
> as I posted before.
Hi Poutnik,
My use model is to have a folder for each time I dump the pictures and
movies off my HDSC camera card.
How many pictures that is is exactly what I've taken on the card.
I guess I could separate the folders by some other mechanism but I've been
using this method ever since digital cameras came out and it seems logical
to me.
It was working fine with Irvanview when my Nikon was putting orientation
information in the JPEG EXIF information but I broke my Nikon (I've broken
four of them in the past six years ... sigh) and now am using a Casio that
does not put EXIF information into the JPEG headers.
So the problem only recently came up because to autorotate all pictures in
IrfanView is not nearly as cumbersome as to rotate only the selected
pictures due to the way Irfanview paints the thumbnails over and over and
over again.
Again, I don't fault Irvanview; it's a great program; I was just trying to
rotate select pictures out of hundreds in a folder.
Ron Hunter
Just move those pictures to a work folder, rotate, then move back. Or
better yet, process them in pieces, moving only a few into the work
folder at a time for thumbnail display.
Poutnik
rphu...@charter.net says...
>
>
> Just move those pictures to a work folder, rotate, then move back. Or
> better yet, process them in pieces, moving only a few into the work
> folder at a time for thumbnail display.
It is what I was advising dome posts before.
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Poutnik
TheRealSteve
Maybe try XnView. You can do the same thing, thumbnail mode, select
tham all or whatever you want, Tools->JPEG Lossless
Transformations->rotate [90 left, right, 180, or based on EXIF]
It doesn't redraw the thumbnails until it's finished rotating them
all.
Steve