Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

[SI] New Mandate: Filters!

0 views
Skip to first unread message

Bowser

unread,
May 12, 2009, 6:18:52 PM5/12/09
to
Courtesy of Prince Annika of Bug Tussel, the new mandate is Filters. Shoot a
picture with a traditional filter for effect, or apply filter effects in
your favorite editing program. Any subject matter is OK, but for God's
sakes, try to avoid submitting a photo and saying that you used the
"sharpening" filter, or something else that does not really add to the
image.

Fire at will. This mandate is due by June 7th, 2009.

http://www.pbase.com/shootin/filters

PS: I don't know about you, but I'd prefer to shoot using a traditional
filter. Trouble is, aside from the polarizer, I can't remember where I put
the damned things.

Dudley Hanks

unread,
May 12, 2009, 6:30:04 PM5/12/09
to

"Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote in message
news:4a09f5f0$0$4919$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com...


If a guy uses a UV filter, just about anything goes ... :)

Take Care,
Dudley


Bowser

unread,
May 12, 2009, 6:32:31 PM5/12/09
to

"Dudley Hanks" <dha...@telus.net> wrote in message
news:MLmOl.26624$Db2.21342@edtnps83...

Sigh...

Troy Piggins

unread,
May 12, 2009, 6:49:23 PM5/12/09
to
* Bowser wrote :

>
> "Dudley Hanks" <dha...@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:MLmOl.26624$Db2.21342@edtnps83...
> [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 15 lines snipped |=---]

>>> filter. Trouble is, aside from the polarizer, I can't remember where I
>>> put the damned things.
>>
>>
>> If a guy uses a UV filter, just about anything goes ... :)
>
> Sigh...

Sounds like you need to use a coffee filter :)

--
Troy Piggins

Dudley Hanks

unread,
May 12, 2009, 7:02:59 PM5/12/09
to

"Troy Piggins" <usene...@piggo.com> wrote in message
news:2009051...@usenet.piggo.com...

I was thinking about using a soft focus filter, but nobody'll be able to
tell it from my usual ... :)

Take Care,
Dudley


Savageduck

unread,
May 12, 2009, 7:14:54 PM5/12/09
to

Time to dig through the Cokins.
--
Regards,
Savageduck

Troy Piggins

unread,
May 12, 2009, 7:22:43 PM5/12/09
to
* Dudley Hanks wrote :

>
> "Troy Piggins" <usene...@piggo.com> wrote in message
> news:2009051...@usenet.piggo.com...
> [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 12 lines snipped |=---]

>>
>> Sounds like you need to use a coffee filter :)
>
> I was thinking about using a soft focus filter, but nobody'll be able to
> tell it from my usual ... :)

:)

My shots are usually taken through a bad-composition,
uninteresting shot filter... :)

--
Troy Piggins

Bertram Paul

unread,
May 12, 2009, 7:49:34 PM5/12/09
to
"Dudley Hanks" <dha...@blind-apertures.ca> wrote in message
news:DenOl.26630$Db2.15214@edtnps83...


I'll make one with a fuel filter, one with an oil filter and one with an air
filter.
After that one with a water filter and another with a spam filter.
Of course I'll be smoking a sigarette with a cigarette filter while shooting
;-)

--
---
Bertram Paul


SneakyP

unread,
May 12, 2009, 11:56:50 PM5/12/09
to
"Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote in
news:4a09f5f0$0$4919$ec3e...@news.usenetmonster.com:

It would be a neat trick if each pixel array were able to tell the
polarization of each photon that hit them. Walla - no attachment.

I guess a camera would cost over $10,000 for that.

--
SneakyP
To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng.

Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it
down :0)

tony cooper

unread,
May 13, 2009, 12:16:16 AM5/13/09
to

Annika can't figure out what a visual pun is, and we're stuck with
"filters"? What's the mandate for July? Infra-red photos of
Tennessee osprey?

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Paul Furman

unread,
May 13, 2009, 4:21:32 AM5/13/09
to

Open season for filter puns!

:-)

Annika1980

unread,
May 13, 2009, 9:50:28 AM5/13/09
to
On May 13, 12:16 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> Annika can't figure out what a visual pun is, and we're stuck with
> "filters"?  What's the mandate for July?  Infra-red photos of
> Tennessee osprey?

Oooh, great idea!

The filter mandate is a brilliant idea. Kudos to the genius that
thought of it.
It should certainly open up more opportunites for submissions than a
visual pun, which is an oxymoron .... unlike the regular type of moron
who came up with that stupid mandate.

Don't forget that you don't have to use the filter on your lens.
There are lighting filters as well.
That's all I'm sayin.

Bowser

unread,
May 13, 2009, 12:05:31 PM5/13/09
to
Annika1980 wrote:
> On May 13, 12:16 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Annika can't figure out what a visual pun is, and we're stuck with
>> "filters"? What's the mandate for July? Infra-red photos of
>> Tennessee osprey?
>
> Oooh, great idea!
>
> The filter mandate is a brilliant idea. Kudos to the genius that
> thought of it.
> It should certainly open up more opportunites for submissions than a
> visual pun, which is an oxymoron .... unlike the regular type of moron
> who came up with that stupid mandate.

At least us regular morons could figure out how to shot a pic that met
the mandate. Use the force, Luke. Let go.

Bowser

unread,
May 13, 2009, 12:07:35 PM5/13/09
to
Annika1980 wrote:
> On May 13, 12:16 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> Annika can't figure out what a visual pun is, and we're stuck with
>> "filters"? What's the mandate for July? Infra-red photos of
>> Tennessee osprey?
>
> Oooh, great idea!
>
> The filter mandate is a brilliant idea. Kudos to the genius that
> thought of it.
> It should certainly open up more opportunites for submissions than a
> visual pun, which is an oxymoron .... unlike the regular type of moron
> who came up with that stupid mandate.

At least us regular morons could figure out how to shot a pic that met

the mandate. Use the force, Luke. Let go.

>

Annika1980

unread,
May 13, 2009, 12:19:48 PM5/13/09
to
On May 13, 12:07 pm, Bowser <o...@the.rainbow> wrote:
>
> At least us regular morons could figure out how to shot a pic that met
> the mandate.

Really? Which entries would you consider Puns?

Now, in the spirit of the game I shall Filter any further comments
from you.

Annika1980

unread,
May 13, 2009, 12:21:50 PM5/13/09
to
On May 12, 6:18 pm, "Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote:
> Courtesy of Prince Annika of Bug Tussel, the new mandate is Filters.

Good call. We can always do the Macro Cheerleader thing during
football season.

Peter Chant

unread,
May 13, 2009, 1:53:03 PM5/13/09
to
Bowser wrote:

> Courtesy of Prince Annika of Bug Tussel, the new mandate is Filters. Shoot
> a picture with a traditional filter for effect, or apply filter effects in
> your favorite editing program. Any subject matter is OK, but for God's
> sakes, try to avoid submitting a photo and saying that you used the
> "sharpening" filter, or something else that does not really add to the
> image.

Ah ha, all those years buying wierd and whacky filteres from the Jessops
clearance bin, the ones that I have never used will pay off! �Victory is
mine!

(Well it might be if I do something!)


--
http://www.petezilla.co.uk

Bowser

unread,
May 13, 2009, 2:19:14 PM5/13/09
to

Walking the plank, holding the bag, assualt and battery, etc.

Best to use a soft-focus filter on me.

Alan Browne

unread,
May 13, 2009, 3:45:46 PM5/13/09
to
SneakyP wrote:

> It would be a neat trick if each pixel array were able to tell the
> polarization of each photon that hit them. Walla - no attachment.

Hmm, a few issues:

I suspect that polarization of a photon might be affected in attempting
to measure its polarization.

Even if the above is false, each photo sensor collects a number of
photons. Each photon will have its own polarization (random). As such,
filtering for up/down v. left/right polarization would probably result
in loss. Reporting on each photosensor's number of photons in one
orientation or the other would result in very large files (at least
double the size).

OTOH, if it were possible, then with a single image capture one could
generate output images with unlimited application of polarization angle.

My bet: won't happen soon.

--
-- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm
-- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm
-- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin
-- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch.
-- usenet posts from gmail.com and googlemail.com are filtered out.

"mcdonaldREMOVE TO...@scs.uiuc.edu

unread,
May 13, 2009, 4:08:30 PM5/13/09
to
Alan Browne wrote:
> SneakyP wrote:
>
>> It would be a neat trick if each pixel array were able to tell the
>> polarization of each photon that hit them. Walla - no attachment.
>
> Hmm, a few issues:
>
> I suspect that polarization of a photon might be affected in attempting
> to measure its polarization.
>

That is correct.

But it is possible to measure the polarization of a photon. HOWEVER,
you have to decide in advance what the direction of the axis
you are measuring against is. That is, for light traveling horizontally,
you can tell vertical versus horizontal polarization, but if the
light is in fact polarized at exactly 45 degrees to the vertical,
the photons will randomly appear as up-down and left-right ... in equal
numbers. If you set the polarizer at 45 degrees, and the light was vertical,
you'd get 50% in the up-right/left-down channel and 50% in the up-left/downright
channel.

I should add that it is easy to measure each pixel as described above without
losing any light: you just us a polarizing prism that splits the
light into two polarized beams. These exist that transmit 99.9%, total.
This is in fact very common ... I've built them.

Doug McDonald

Annika1980

unread,
May 13, 2009, 4:21:25 PM5/13/09
to
On May 13, 2:19 pm, Bowser <o...@the.rainbow> wrote:

> > Really?  Which entries would you consider Puns?
>
>

> Walking the plank, holding the bag, assualt and battery, etc.
>

Those aren't puns, they're expressions.
A pun would be "walking the prank" or "holding the bug."

I'll give you "A salt and battery."

Calvin Sambrook

unread,
May 13, 2009, 4:48:07 PM5/13/09
to
>"Annika1980" <annik...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:67def0ac-ae25->47a2-81f3-c...@r34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...

Hmm... I think you've got a far too narrow definition of a pun there. To
quote that well known source of all knowledge, the wiki, "A pun, or
paronomasia, is a form of word play that deliberately exploits ambiguity
between similar-sounding words for humorous or rhetorical effect. Such
ambiguity may arise from the intentional misuse of homophonical,
homographical, homonymic, polysemic, metonymic, or metaphorical language.".
Essentially that allows for pretty much any and all overloading of a word.

Your narrow definition restricts puns to homophonical overloading, ie. you
only call it a pun if one word sounds like another but the puns listed above
rely on homographical overloading, ie. two different concepts/meanings
represented in language by the same written word.

In the case of, for instance, Walking the Plank the word "walking" carries
two quite different meanings, firstly to "take for a walk" and secondly to
"walk along the length of". Hence the image is of someone doing the first
but (hopefully) portrayed in a manner which makes the viewer realise the
second meaning without it actually being portrayed.

Anyway, lighten up, it's all about creating and sharing high quality images.
Some people managed that rather well I thought.


Troy Piggins

unread,
May 13, 2009, 6:15:20 PM5/13/09
to
* Annika1980 wrote :

> On May 13, 12:07 pm, Bowser <o...@the.rainbow> wrote:
>>
>> At least us regular morons could figure out how to shot a pic that met
>> the mandate.
>
> Really? Which entries would you consider Puns?

These were pretty clear to me:

"Draggin' the chain"/"Chain smoker"
"Walking the plank"
"Assault and battery"

--
Troy Piggins

Troy Piggins

unread,
May 13, 2009, 6:18:06 PM5/13/09
to
* Annika1980 wrote :

> On May 13, 2:19 pm, Bowser <o...@the.rainbow> wrote:
>
>> > Really?  Which entries would you consider Puns?
>>
>> Walking the plank, holding the bag, assualt and battery, etc.
>
> Those aren't puns, they're expressions.
> A pun would be "walking the prank" or "holding the bug."

No. Walking the plank in the pirate type definition means that
one actually walks along the plank and into the ocean. The
"walking" photo was taking the plank for a walk. Different takes
on the same words. Pun. The spelling doesn't have to be
different.

pun (plural puns)

1. A joke or type of wordplay in which similar senses or
sounds of two words or phrases, or different senses of the same
word, are deliberately confused.

--
Troy Piggins

Alan Browne

unread,
May 13, 2009, 6:48:49 PM5/13/09
to
Troy Piggins wrote:

> "Walking the plank"

To me that one was: "Boardwalk".

Troy Piggins

unread,
May 13, 2009, 6:56:05 PM5/13/09
to
* Alan Browne wrote :

> Troy Piggins wrote:
>
>> "Walking the plank"
>
> To me that one was: "Boardwalk".

Aah, that works too. Good one. For me, the guy dressed up a
little like a pirate led me to the "walking the plank" path.

--
Troy Piggins

Bowser

unread,
May 13, 2009, 7:16:40 PM5/13/09
to

"Annika1980" <annik...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:67def0ac-ae25-47a2...@r34g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...

Ah. See the other two replies, and you'll see why this mandate was
impossible for you. Since you picked the next mandate I'll expect only the
finest from you.

Suggestion: buy a dictionary and look up the meaning of the mandates before
you shoot. No go find some cheerleaders and start shooting.

Helen

unread,
May 13, 2009, 10:45:50 PM5/13/09
to
On May 12, 6:18 pm, "Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote:
> Courtesy of Prince Annika of Bug Tussel, the new mandate is Filters. Shoot a
> picture with a traditional filter for effect, or apply filter effects in
> your favorite editing program. Any subject matter is OK, but for God's
> sakes, try to avoid submitting a photo and saying that you used the
> "sharpening" filter, or something else that does not really add to the
> image.
>
> Fire at will. This mandate is due by June 7th, 2009.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/shootin/filters
>
> PS: I don't know about you, but I'd prefer to shoot using a traditional
> filter. Trouble is, aside from the polarizer, I can't remember where I put
> the damned things.


My schedule is very full and hectic, but I'll try my best to
contribute. The due date is easy to remember for me, the day after my
bd.

tony cooper

unread,
May 14, 2009, 1:25:01 AM5/14/09
to

Since you had so much difficulty figuring out how to meet the last
mandate, I'll give you a suggestion for the next one: take a
self-portrait filtered through a thinly sliced piece of Muenster and
title it "Cheese and Whine". You get two mandates in one.

whisky-dave

unread,
May 14, 2009, 8:13:39 AM5/14/09
to

"Troy Piggins" <usene...@piggo.com> wrote in message
news:2009051...@usenet.piggo.com...

Yep, me to as in walking the dog hence the lead around the plank.

Looking forward to the filter mandata,

But can we argue over what a traditional filter is compared to an
untraditional one ;-)

>
> --
> Troy Piggins


Draco

unread,
May 14, 2009, 8:40:19 AM5/14/09
to

Of course a lady never tells her age. But I'm guessing that it will be
your 21st birthday?

Draco

Bowser

unread,
May 14, 2009, 6:28:32 PM5/14/09
to

"Paul Furman" <paul-@-edgehill.net> wrote in message
news:jqvOl.29910$YU2....@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...

Maybe I should change the mandate to filter punography?

Alan Browne

unread,
May 14, 2009, 7:06:19 PM5/14/09
to

Maybe you should filter the mandates more carefully?

Troy Piggins

unread,
May 14, 2009, 7:10:13 PM5/14/09
to
* Bowser wrote :

>
> "Paul Furman" <paul-@-edgehill.net> wrote in message
> news:jqvOl.29910$YU2....@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com...
> [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 28 lines snipped |=---]

>>> After that one with a water filter and another with a spam filter.
>>> Of course I'll be smoking a sigarette with a cigarette filter while
>>> shooting ;-)
>>
>> Open season for filter puns!
>
> Maybe I should change the mandate to filter punography?

That's sure to polarise the collective.

Wow - 2 filter puns in one sentence. What do I win?

--
Troy Piggins

Noons

unread,
May 15, 2009, 2:50:18 AM5/15/09
to
On May 14, 9:16 am, "Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote:

>
> Suggestion: buy a dictionary and look up the meaning of the mandates before
> you shoot. No go find some cheerleaders and start shooting.

Hehehe! Ouch!....

BioC...@aol.com

unread,
May 15, 2009, 12:20:21 PM5/15/09
to
On Thu, 14 May 2009 18:28:32 -0400, "Bowser" <u...@gone.now> wrote:

>
>Maybe I should change the mandate to filter punography?

Cool. I'll submit a photo of my lunch - gefilter fish.

Cheers,
DuncanC

Billy

unread,
May 15, 2009, 5:10:56 PM5/15/09
to

Thats exciting

Paul Furman

unread,
May 16, 2009, 12:28:51 AM5/16/09
to

You get a diploma for graduating with a degree in neural density.

Bob Larter

unread,
May 18, 2009, 4:03:16 AM5/18/09
to
Troy Piggins wrote:
> * Dudley Hanks wrote :

>> "Troy Piggins" <usene...@piggo.com> wrote in message
>> news:2009051...@usenet.piggo.com...
>> [---=| Quote block shrinked by t-prot: 12 lines snipped |=---]

>>> Sounds like you need to use a coffee filter :)
>> I was thinking about using a soft focus filter, but nobody'll be able to
>> tell it from my usual ... :)
>
> :)
>
> My shots are usually taken through a bad-composition,
> uninteresting shot filter... :)

Oh, I've got one of those too. I try to leave it in the cupboard as much
as possible though. ;^)

--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

Bob Larter

unread,
May 18, 2009, 4:10:27 AM5/18/09
to

Maybe he can find some /cute/ cheerleaders for a change. ;^)

0 new messages