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Charles

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Mar 14, 2009, 6:26:50 PM3/14/09
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It seems that only a few camera enthusiasts are photographers.

Is it just me?


ray

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Mar 14, 2009, 8:05:35 PM3/14/09
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:26:50 -0400, Charles wrote:

> It seems that only a few camera enthusiasts are photographers.
>
> Is it just me?

Might be able to tell you better if you'd tell us what you mean. Do you
mean 'camera enthusiasts' just buy cameras to sit on the shelf while
'photographers' actually take photos?

Ockham's Razor

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Mar 14, 2009, 9:08:38 PM3/14/09
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In article <722v2eF...@mid.individual.net>, ray <r...@zianet.com>
wrote:

I think it is like gun fondlers. They masturbate their guns and
worship the Second Amendment. But they do not know how to use them.

--
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
Stephen F. Roberts

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Nicko

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Mar 15, 2009, 10:01:01 AM3/15/09
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On Mar 14, 9:27 pm, Savageduck <savaged...@savage.net> wrote:
> On 2009-03-14 18:08:38 -0700, Ockham's Razor <Menc...@pdx.net> said:
>
> > In article <722v2eFn6tr...@mid.individual.net>, ray <r...@zianet.com>

> > wrote:
>
> >> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:26:50 -0400, Charles wrote:
>
> >>> It seems that only a few camera enthusiasts are photographers.
>
> >>> Is it just me?
>
> >> Might be able to tell you better if you'd tell us what you mean. Do you
> >> mean 'camera enthusiasts' just buy cameras to sit on the shelf while
> >> 'photographers' actually take photos?
>
> > I think it is like gun fondlers.   They masturbate their guns and
> > worship the Second Amendment.  But they do not know how to use them.
>
> Strangely enough, some gun owners are "professionals" some are
> hobbiests and some are argumentative trolls.
> Some know how to use themhttp://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/DSCF0076c3.jpg
>
> The same can be said for "camera enthusiasts" professional, hobbiest, or troll.
>
> Fondling either tool (camera or gun) seems to be an odd route to
> gratification of objects inanimate or otherwise.

So what tool were you fondling when you posted this pretentious
drivel?

--
YOP...

ray

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Mar 15, 2009, 11:05:47 AM3/15/09
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On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:08:38 -0700, Ockham's Razor wrote:

> In article <722v2eF...@mid.individual.net>, ray <r...@zianet.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:26:50 -0400, Charles wrote:
>>
>> > It seems that only a few camera enthusiasts are photographers.
>> >
>> > Is it just me?
>>
>> Might be able to tell you better if you'd tell us what you mean. Do you
>> mean 'camera enthusiasts' just buy cameras to sit on the shelf while
>> 'photographers' actually take photos?
>
> I think it is like gun fondlers. They masturbate their guns and
> worship the Second Amendment. But they do not know how to use them.

Seems kind of messy to me. I suspect a competent psychiatrist could help
you a lot.

Marvin

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Mar 15, 2009, 11:35:10 AM3/15/09
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Charles wrote:
> It seems that only a few camera enthusiasts are photographers.
>
> Is it just me?
>
>
Yf you mean professional photographers, hey were part of
this NG in the past, but they seem to have moved to another
discussion group.

Don Stauffer

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Mar 15, 2009, 12:13:54 PM3/15/09
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Charles wrote:
> It seems that only a few camera enthusiasts are photographers.
>
> Is it just me?
>
>
I think there is a mix. I have friends who perport to be photographers
who are really camera collecters- they rarely photograph anything. But
I think the majority of folks in groups like my camera club are more
photographers than camera collectors. The mix varies, but there are
both types in most areas.

George Kerby

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Mar 15, 2009, 1:55:40 PM3/15/09
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On 3/15/09 10:05 AM, in article 724jqbF...@mid.individual.net, "ray"
<r...@zianet.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:08:38 -0700, Ockham's Razor wrote:
>
>> In article <722v2eF...@mid.individual.net>, ray <r...@zianet.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:26:50 -0400, Charles wrote:
>>>
>>>> It seems that only a few camera enthusiasts are photographers.
>>>>
>>>> Is it just me?
>>>
>>> Might be able to tell you better if you'd tell us what you mean. Do you
>>> mean 'camera enthusiasts' just buy cameras to sit on the shelf while
>>> 'photographers' actually take photos?
>>
>> I think it is like gun fondlers. They masturbate their guns and
>> worship the Second Amendment. But they do not know how to use them.
>
> Seems kind of messy to me. I suspect a competent psychiatrist could help
> you a lot.

Maybe prevent him from using his razor that caused the mess in the first
place?

Charles

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Mar 16, 2009, 6:31:05 PM3/16/09
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"Marvin" <phys...@verizon.net> wrote in message
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Of course they have, and so have many serious amateurs (those who care about
results more than about gear).


Charles

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Mar 16, 2009, 6:34:56 PM3/16/09
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"Don Stauffer" <stau...@usfamily.net> wrote in message
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The mix here is tilting toward gear-heads, and some of those are nit-picking
axe-grinders and trolls.

Not all that much offered here these days for folks who want to take good
shots.


whisky-dave

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Mar 17, 2009, 9:39:23 AM3/17/09
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"Charles" <charles...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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I suppose it's difficult to define a good shot, defining a good camera is
probably easier,
and it's easier to discuss camera specs than the intricacies of what makes a
good picture.
I think they have the same problem in the art and music worlds, I think
sport is a little
easier provided you ban drugs.

.


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Stormin Mormon

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Mar 19, 2009, 9:11:06 AM3/19/09
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So, which one would you rather have shooting at you?

--
Christopher A. Young
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"Ockham's Razor" <Men...@pdx.net> wrote in message
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FYI

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Mar 19, 2009, 10:41:43 PM3/19/09
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:57:28 -0700, Savageduck <savag...@savage.net>
wrote:

>This has great "Monty Pythonesque" possibilities.
>
>All we need is a NG populated with the great artists (or more
>appropriatly self-professed great artists) engaged in debate over the
>benefits of various brushes, palette knives, media (canvas texture,
>wood panel grain & fresco plasters, Oils vs. watercolors etc.)
>
>For musicians the Canon/Nikon wars could be revived as
>Stradivarius/Guarneri, Steinway/Bosendorfer, or Gibson/Fender wars.

Real artists and real photographers have better things to do with their
time than pandering to the desperate needs of the snapshooting subhuman
soap-opera mentalities (i.e. trolls) that have proliferated, and now live
out their insignificant lives, in this newsgroup.

Re: "I suppose it's difficult to define a good shot, ..." Wrong. It's easy
to define a good shot and to also convey that information in text to
others--that which works and does not work. Only someone who is not a real
photographer or real artist would think that task difficult. Why then don't
they do this for you? (see previous paragraph)

Mark Thomas

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Mar 19, 2009, 10:55:42 PM3/19/09
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FYI wrote:
> Real artists and real photographers have better things to do...
Hi, Keoeeit!

Please folks, do not respond to this poster further until you are fully
aware of his background.

"FYI" is the anti-dslr- and chdk-troll, aka Keoeeit, Vern, X-Man,
Baumbadier, Casiobear, etc, ad infinitum.

He's well known for the 'attitude', and that's being kind. He can be
found on many forums, is frequently banned (eg Steve's Forums,
photography-on-the.net) and he's usually quite easy to spot, by his
withdrawn posts and images (ironic, huh?). He doesn't like leaving a
trail, but is too incompetent to not be recognised wherever he goes..

(and *still* always posts from cpinternet)

Stands out like the proverbial puppy nuts.. (O:


For further details, google "keoeeit minnesota". You'll see his posts
are often lamenting about how he lives alone...

Umm, any questions?

E.Flanders

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Mar 20, 2009, 12:16:29 AM3/20/09
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:55:42 +1000, Mark Thomas <mark.t...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>FYI wrote:
>> Real artists and real photographers have better things to do...
>Hi, Keoeeit!
>
>Please folks, do not respond to this poster further until you are fully
>aware of his background.
>
>"FYI" is the anti-dslr- and chdk-troll, aka Keoeeit, Vern, X-Man,
>Baumbadier, Casiobear, etc, ad infinitum.
>
>He's well known for the 'attitude', and that's being kind. He can be
>found on many forums, is frequently banned (eg Steve's Forums,
>photography-on-the.net) and he's usually quite easy to spot, by his
>withdrawn posts and images (ironic, huh?). He doesn't like leaving a
>trail, but is too incompetent to not be recognised wherever he goes..
>
>(and *still* always posts from cpinternet)

Now go find the 14 other servers that have been used recently. Never heard
of proxies? Like this one being used? Quite a few use it. It's fun posting
from this one to make you jump, EVERY time. You're not too bright for a
troll, are you, but then that's a given.

Thanks for proving, again, what was stated about your kind--"snapshooting
subhuman soap-opera mentalities". :-) Emphasis on "soap-opera usenet living
troll".

Mark Thomas

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Mar 20, 2009, 12:36:00 AM3/20/09
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"E.Flanders" (aka keoeeit - wonder why he rarely puts a space after the
initial?) wrote:
> Now go find..
> ever heard of..
> It's fun..
> make you jump..
> not too bright..
> troll..
> proving, again..
> what was stated..
> your kind..
> subhuman soap-opera mentalities..
> soap-opera usenet living troll..

(O:

...Like I said:

>> any questions?

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