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measekite

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Jan 22, 2005, 4:21:42 PM1/22/05
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Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
both sides of the Atlantic.

All Things Mopar

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Jan 22, 2005, 4:27:01 PM1/22/05
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measekite commented courteously ...

> Why is their a difference in the spelling of
> color (I think colour) on both sides of the
> Atlantic.

And, why aluminium and aluminum, and hood and bonnet, and
tire and tyre, and, and, and,

"England and America are two countries divided by a common
language." - George Bernard Shaw

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Robert Barr

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Jan 22, 2005, 4:40:29 PM1/22/05
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Because the Brits have a dash more taste. (We'll ignore punk rock for
now...)

Craig

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Andy Hewitt

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Jan 22, 2005, 4:52:14 PM1/22/05
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Robert Barr <n...@for.harvest> wrote:

We also spell 'there' differently too ;-)

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Roland Karlsson

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measekite <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:GtzId.14188$5R.12076
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> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.
>

In Sweden we spell it "färg".


/Roland

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> measekite <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:GtzId.14188$5R.12076
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>> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>> both sides of the Atlantic.
.
Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?


MrB

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Jan 22, 2005, 5:38:55 PM1/22/05
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Andy, good one. Most of us spell it your way.

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Ken

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Are you sure that it is a choice rather than an affliction?


Ernest Cassirer

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Jan 22, 2005, 5:41:30 PM1/22/05
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We sell "Beano" To prevent that.

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All Things Mopar

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Toomanyputters commented courteously ...

> Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong
> side of the road?

Funny you should mention that...

When I was in London, while on leave from the U.S. Army in
West Germany in 1971, a very proper elder English
gentleman asked me how I liked his city. And I said "just
fine, but you folks drive on the wrong side of the road so
I never know which way to look for oncoming traffic!"

And he said, "No, Yank, YOU people drive on the wrong side
of the road!"

Bless you, sir!

Darrell

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Jan 22, 2005, 6:21:08 PM1/22/05
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Because Yanks can't spell...


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Darrell

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"Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com> wrote in message
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Brits drink warm beer ... Why?

Lucas Refrigerators


Joseph Meehan

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Jan 22, 2005, 6:29:20 PM1/22/05
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measekite wrote:
> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.

I don't worry. I am such a poor speller to start with I like having
choices. It increases my chances of being right. If you watch my writing
long enough you will see both and mixes of even the same word from time to
time. I guess I am allows as I have citizenship in both US and IE.

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Andy Hewitt

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Jan 22, 2005, 6:36:53 PM1/22/05
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MrB <broo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Andy, good one. Most of us spell it your way.

Thought so :-)

I just thought it pretty lame to ask about the spelling of colour, then
use 'their' in the wrong context. It's a pair of words I see used so
often incorrectly in groups.

Joseph Meehan

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Jan 22, 2005, 6:34:03 PM1/22/05
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measekite wrote:
> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.

I believe if you follow it back through history, you will find that it
has a lot to do with all the different version of English that were based in
different areas of the country. As it became standardized, which the
English did fairly early, they chose spellings based on popular writings and
politics-religion as much as anything else. Some words sounded a lot
different then so the spelling was different. I guess the US did not feel
so obliged to keep it the same and allowed changes. Some were good and some
were very bad.

Anyway that is what I learned about it long ago. That's the best as I
can remember.

Stu Dapples

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"measekite" <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.

We Brits spell 'colour' the correct way, and also we know how to spell
'there' and to put a '?' at the end of a question.

George

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"measekite" <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.

Don't forget your gray card and your grey card.


J...@no.komm

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Jan 22, 2005, 7:49:25 PM1/22/05
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In message <1gqtdi5.1sn8jsn1yef2lgN%hairy...@spamcop.net>,
hairy...@spamcop.net (Andy Hewitt) wrote:

>MrB <broo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Andy, good one. Most of us spell it your way.
>
>Thought so :-)
>
>I just thought it pretty lame to ask about the spelling of colour, then
>use 'their' in the wrong context. It's a pair of words I see used so
>often incorrectly in groups.

Reading improperly used apostrophes and wrong homonyms is most confusing
to the people who understand their proper usage! Relatively neanderthal
people convert the word into sound, and then interpret in context.
Relatively literate people take the words at face value, and find them
to destroy the sentence. For example, someone might write "I burned the
CD's", meaning multiple CDs, but I am looking for something that the CD
possesses to immediately follow "CD's", such as, "I burned the CD's
paper inserts in the fireplace".
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Darrell

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Jan 22, 2005, 7:49:46 PM1/22/05
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"Andy Hewitt" <hairy...@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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> MrB <broo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Andy, good one. Most of us spell it your way.
>
> Thought so :-)
>
> I just thought it pretty lame to ask about the spelling of colour, then
> use 'their' in the wrong context. It's a pair of words I see used so
> often incorrectly in groups.
>
Many can't tell the difference between;

there
their
they're

Bart van der Wolf

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SNIP

> Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?

Apparently it comes from the tradition of riding one's horse on the
left side of the road, leaving the right hand (side) open for handling
the sword, or so I've been told.

Bart

Andy Hewitt

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Jan 22, 2005, 7:58:13 PM1/22/05
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<J...@no.komm> wrote:

> In message <1gqtdi5.1sn8jsn1yef2lgN%hairy...@spamcop.net>,
> hairy...@spamcop.net (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
>
> >MrB <broo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Andy, good one. Most of us spell it your way.
> >
> >Thought so :-)
> >
> >I just thought it pretty lame to ask about the spelling of colour, then
> >use 'their' in the wrong context. It's a pair of words I see used so
> >often incorrectly in groups.
>
> Reading improperly used apostrophes and wrong homonyms is most confusing
> to the people who understand their proper usage! Relatively neanderthal
> people convert the word into sound, and then interpret in context.
> Relatively literate people take the words at face value, and find them
> to destroy the sentence. For example, someone might write "I burned the
> CD's", meaning multiple CDs, but I am looking for something that the CD
> possesses to immediately follow "CD's", such as, "I burned the CD's
> paper inserts in the fireplace".

That too.

Andy Hewitt

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Jan 22, 2005, 7:58:13 PM1/22/05
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Darrell <dev/null> wrote:

Yes, obviously.

Frank ess

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Jan 22, 2005, 8:06:53 PM1/22/05
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If that one hasn't been Snopes'd it should have been.


Frank ess

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Jan 22, 2005, 8:07:44 PM1/22/05
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You're supposition is correct.


Frank ess

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J...@no.komm wrote:
> In message <1gqtdi5.1sn8jsn1yef2lgN%hairy...@spamcop.net>,
> hairy...@spamcop.net (Andy Hewitt) wrote:
>
>> MrB <broo...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Andy, good one. Most of us spell it your way.
>>
>> Thought so :-)
>>
>> I just thought it pretty lame to ask about the spelling of colour,
>> then use 'their' in the wrong context. It's a pair of words I see
>> used so often incorrectly in groups.
>
> Reading improperly used apostrophes and wrong homonyms is most
> confusing to the people who understand their proper usage!
> Relatively neanderthal people convert the word into sound, and then
> interpret in context. Relatively literate people take the words at
> face value, and find them to destroy the sentence. For example,
> someone might write "I burned the CD's", meaning multiple CDs, but I
> am looking for something that the CD possesses to immediately follow
> "CD's", such as, "I burned the CD's paper inserts in the fireplace".
>

So, relatively literate folks waste a lot of energy over-interpreting
neanderthal language? Doesn't sound like a survival characteristic to
me...


Robert Scott

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Jan 22, 2005, 9:26:43 PM1/22/05
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<J...@no.komm> wrote in message
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>
> Reading improperly used apostrophes and wrong homonyms is most confusing
> to the people who understand their proper usage! Relatively neanderthal
> people convert the word into sound, and then interpret in context.
> Relatively literate people take the words at face value, and find them
> to destroy the sentence. For example, someone might write "I burned the
> CD's", meaning multiple CDs, but I am looking for something that the CD
> possesses to immediately follow "CD's", such as, "I burned the CD's
> paper inserts in the fireplace".

That one bugs me, too.

But I'm wondering... how do I expresss the plural of "Nikon F4S" when I want
to say I have two? I usually write "my two Nikon F4S's" but I'm pretty sure
that's wrong. :-)

Good shooting,
Bob Scott


Skip M

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Jan 22, 2005, 9:50:00 PM1/22/05
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stewy

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anyone...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hrrrrumph!!! Brits drink warm beer 'cos there's flavor (sic) there that can
be tasted. Try drinking Coors or Bud (or any of those other vile brews from
Wiskonsin or some such backwoods) warm and see how much flavour you can
detect....

stewy

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anyone...@hotmail.com wrote:

And a pink slip is not a piece of underwear, apparently.

J...@no.komm

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In message <DXDId.7745$rp1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"Robert Scott" <desm...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>That one bugs me, too.

>But I'm wondering... how do I expresss the plural of "Nikon F4S" when I want
>to say I have two? I usually write "my two Nikon F4S's" but I'm pretty sure
>that's wrong. :-)

I would go with "F4Ses", but I don't know for sure, so I tend to
restructure sentences to avoid unknowns.

"... my two Nikon F4S cameras ..."

Frank ess

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J...@no.komm wrote:
> In message <DXDId.7745$rp1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
> "Robert Scott" <desm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>> That one bugs me, too.
>
>> But I'm wondering... how do I expresss the plural of "Nikon F4S"
>> when I want to say I have two? I usually write "my two Nikon F4S's"
>> but I'm pretty sure that's wrong. :-)
>
> I would go with "F4Ses", but I don't know for sure, so I tend to
> restructure sentences to avoid unknowns.
>
> "... my two Nikon F4S cameras ..."
>
Ayuh. Back in the 80s and 90s it was "F4Ss". At least in the Joneses'
neighborhoods...


Jon Pike

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measekite <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:GtzId.14188$5R.12076
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> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on

> both sides of the Atlantic.
>

because when webster made his first american dictionary, he thought
americans were too stupid to remember the proper spelling of words. so he
changed them by taking out u's and other such things. (s vs z)

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Ryan Robbins

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"measekite" <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.

Who have you spelled "there" "their"?


Christopher Pollard

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:54:15 +0100, "Bart van der Wolf" <bvd...@no.spam> wrote:

>Apparently it comes from the tradition of riding one's horse on the
>left side of the road, leaving the right hand (side) open for handling
>the sword, or so I've been told.

I heard that too, and it was that Napoleon bloke who was left handed so decided
that everybody should ride on the wrong side. That's why they drive on the right
side in mainland Europe.

As for spelling, there's also favour, honour, glamour,
Oh, and it's metre, not meter. A meter is a measuring device, a metre (or
kilometre, centimetre, etc.) is a unit of length.

http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/jones/differences.htm

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Pete S.

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I'm sorry, but I really do need to interject here.

It is not possible to even suggest that Coors, Budweiser, etc, are
beers.


Pete S.

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Mike O'Sullivan

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measekite wrote:
> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.

Just an attempt by the turbulent colonials to be different from the
hated English. Why drive on the wrong side of the road otherwise?

Mike O'Sullivan

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>>"Roland Karlsson" <roland_do...@bonetmail.com> wrote in message
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>>>measekite <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:GtzId.14188$5R.12076
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>>>
>>>>Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>>>>both sides of the Atlantic.
>>
>>.
>>Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?
>>
>
> Brits drink warm beer ... Why?

How does "room temperature" qualify as "warm"?

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David J Taylor

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measekite wrote:
> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.

See: "The Adventure of English" by Melvyn Bragg

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0340829931/202-0711118-3652661

David


Jon Pike

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Confused <some...@someplace.somenet> wrote in
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> Jon Pike <Anono...@spamlesshotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> because when webster made his first american dictionary, he thought
>> americans were too stupid to remember the proper spelling of words.
>> so he changed them by taking out u's and other such things. (s vs z)
>

> My grandparents left England, Scotland and Sweden to get
> away from old world thinking. Now look what we done did...
> we let them all back in by allowing the internet to be an
> international affair. We bloody well should have kept
> it a secret. ;^)
>
> They now think that google is a verb and softwares is
> plural for software (which is already plural without
> the "s"). Heck... next thing ya know they will be
> thinking they belong in North American Stock CAR
> racing and who knows what else, eh?
>
> Regardess, their there is our they're there.
> Maybe we need an internet "T" party... heh.
>
> Jeff
>

google IS a verb!

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Christopher Pollard

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:05:19 GMT, Confused <some...@someplace.somenet> wrote:

>"Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com> wrote:
>
>> Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?
>

>That's so they'll look important in a traffic circle

Why do americans call roundabouts traffic circles?

Christopher Pollard

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:21:32 GMT, Confused <some...@someplace.somenet> wrote:

>They now think that google is a verb and softwares is
>plural for software

Is that an American thing? I see it here (Philippines) all the time.
Furnitures, luggages, lingeries, jewelries, equipments...

Charlie Self

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I know it's confusing, but the Phillipines are not part of the U.S.
Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

Christopher Pollard

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On 23 Jan 2005 08:53:42 GMT, charl...@aol.comnotforme (Charlie Self) wrote:

>I know it's confusing, but the Phillipines are not part of the U.S.

:-)

It used to be...well, sort of. After the US liberated it from the Japs.
So there's a very strong american influence here.


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Alfred Molon

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> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
> both sides of the Atlantic.

BTW how do Australians and South Africans spell colour ?
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Chris Brown

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In article <aem6v0t44sd0qu5pv...@4ax.com>,

Confused <some...@someplace.somenet> wrote:
>"Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com> wrote:
>
>> Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?
>
>That's so they'll look important in a traffic circle
>while sounding very important with their fancy verbiage.

"Verbiage"?

"VERBIAGE?"

Ooh, aren't we grand? "Verbiage" indeed! I suppose we play the grand-piano?
"No tea for me, mater! I'm off to use my fancy VERBIAGE.

With apologies to the Pythons.

Chris Brown

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In article <GtzId.14188$5R.1...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,

measekite <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>both sides of the Atlantic.

It's not just colour and color. There are many more, such as humour
(something that makes you laugh) and humor (sounds like some sort of nasty
fungal growth). HTH!

Chris Brown

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>Brits drink warm beer ... Why?

This is a myth. Real ale is best served at cellar temperature, which is 12
degrees Celsius; not "warm" except, perhaps, to an Inuit.

If it is kept (and served) warmer, it will go off. If it is overly chilled,
the coldness will numb the tastebuds, degrading your ability to taste any
interesting and subtle flavours in the beer.

On the other hand, cheap and nasty lager, such as that popular in much of
the US, and also amongst chavs in the UK, usually has a very unpleasant
taste, and is therefore best served cold to mask this.

Of course, a large number of Americans have actually figured this out, and
have switched to drinking some of the many decent real ales that are now
produced in the US. Some of them are even served at the correct temperature.
;-)

Journalist-North

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"Darrell" <dev/null> wrote in message
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>>
> Brits drink warm beer ... Why?
>
>
>
> Lucas Refrigerators
>
--------

Flavour... The only reason to drink it "ice cold" is to conceal the distinct
odour and/or taste of horse piss that is associated with most of the
American variety of, so called, "beer." Yuck!!!

John G

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> In article <GtzId.14188$5R.1...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>,
> measekite
> says...
>> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour)
>> on
>> both sides of the Atlantic.
>
> BTW how do Australians and South Africans spell colour ?
> --
>
The proper way because we are not as lazy as the original convicts who
could not take their punishment and had to revolt and leave the
Commonwealth.


Lansbury

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:05:01 AM1/23/05
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:35:23 GMT, "Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com>
wrote:

>Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?

May I refer you to Hollywood Western films of the 60s vintage. If you look at
these you will see the stage coach driver sits on the right. If you go to
museums and look at old stage coaches you will see that what passes for a
brake is on the right of the stage coach. Likewise buckboards the driver used
to sit on the right

So the question should really be - when the Americans built cars why did they
move the driver over to the left side?

-
Lansbury
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Pete S.

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:43:18 +0800, Christopher Pollard
<rub...@cginternet.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:05:19 GMT, Confused <some...@someplace.somenet> wrote:
>
>>"Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?
>>
>>That's so they'll look important in a traffic circle
>
>Why do americans call roundabouts traffic circles?

Why do they call racing circuit straights "straightaways"?

Why do they "gotten" things?

Why do they use "Expiration" instead of "expiry" on a credit card?


Pete S.

www.derwentelec.clara.co.uk

Pete S.

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:17:33 AM1/23/05
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:05:01 +0000, Lansbury <lans...@spamcop.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:35:23 GMT, "Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?

And Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Japan, etc
Pete S.

www.derwentelec.clara.co.uk

Pete S.

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:20:39 AM1/23/05
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 08:21:32 GMT, Confused
<some...@someplace.somenet> wrote:


>
>They now think that google is a verb and softwares is

>plural for software (which is already plural without
>the "s"). Heck... next thing ya know they will be
>thinking they belong in North American Stock CAR
>racing and who knows what else, eh?
>

You'll be telling us next that the "World Series" really is a world
championship, instead of posh rounders.

And as for "American Football", Rugby for poofs......


Pete S.

www.derwentelec.clara.co.uk

James Clifford

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:32:45 AM1/23/05
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:05:01 +0000, Lansbury <lans...@spamcop.net>
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>On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 22:35:23 GMT, "Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com>


The question should be where is the wheel on the cars the pros
prefer to drive. Can a car be handled the same no matter what side the
wheel is on or do the primarily right handed people have an advantage
driving cars in the US and other places.

J.

John Taverner

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:48:27 AM1/23/05
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> It's not just colour and color. There are many more, such as humour
> (something that makes you laugh) and humor (sounds like some sort of nasty
> fungal growth). HTH!

and if it wasn't for the bloody Angles, Saxons etc you would all be speaking
Welsh.


Stu Dapples

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Jan 23, 2005, 6:54:31 AM1/23/05
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"Pete S." <spamPe...@spamderwentspamelec.spamclara.spamco.spamuk> wrote
in message news:41f3869c...@news.clara.net...

> >Why do americans call roundabouts traffic circles?
>
> Why do they call racing circuit straights "straightaways"?
>
> Why do they "gotten" things?
>
> Why do they use "Expiration" instead of "expiry" on a credit card?
>

And why do they say 'different than' when it should be 'different to'?
'Than' is a comparing word, eg, 'bigger than', 'better than', indicating a
degree or amount. Different is just different and has no amount. Therefore
my Canon is better than your Nikon but it's different to a 35mm camera.
I'm afraid the Yanks have taken a perfectly good and very ancient language
and strangled it half to death, and the process is continuing. In another
200 years their version will need an interpreter.

Pete S.

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Jan 23, 2005, 7:50:42 AM1/23/05
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 06:32:45 -0500, James Clifford
<jimmy...@spamex.com> wrote:

>
>
> The question should be where is the wheel on the cars the pros
>prefer to drive. Can a car be handled the same no matter what side the
>wheel is on or do the primarily right handed people have an advantage
>driving cars in the US and other places.
>

When McClaren builtificateisationed (an american word - like english
but with useless bits stuck on) a fast car, the driver went in the
centre.


Pete S.

www.derwentelec.clara.co.uk

Pete S.

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Jan 23, 2005, 7:51:45 AM1/23/05
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Baaaa....

Flossie! (apologies to Black Adder)


Pete S.

www.derwentelec.clara.co.uk

Tumbleweed

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"Pete S." <spamPe...@spamderwentspamelec.spamclara.spamco.spamuk> wrote
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And India, Sri Lanka, Cyprus, Malta .......

I guess americans don't get out much to appreciate what other people do.....


Skip M

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Jan 23, 2005, 8:36:10 AM1/23/05
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"stewy" <st...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> anyone...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> "Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com> wrote in message
>> news:LyAId.35378$dt3.3...@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>>>
>>> "Roland Karlsson" <roland_do...@bonetmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns95E6ECD73...@130.133.1.4...
>>>> measekite <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:GtzId.14188$5R.12076
>>>> @newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
>>>>
>>>>> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>>>>> both sides of the Atlantic.
>>> .

>>> Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?
>>>
>> Brits drink warm beer ... Why?
>>
> Hrrrrumph!!! Brits drink warm beer 'cos there's flavor (sic) there that
> can
> be tasted. Try drinking Coors or Bud (or any of those other vile brews
> from
> Wiskonsin or some such backwoods) warm and see how much flavour you can
> detect....
>
You mean besides yeast? That's the problem, American mainstream beers have
too much taste of an unpleasant variety when warm.
And "warm" for British beer is something like 56F, if I remember correctly.
About 15F above your average Coors...

--
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http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com


Skip M

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>
> "Toomanyputters" <rain...@theswamp.com> wrote in message
> news:LyAId.35378$dt3.3...@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>>
>> "Roland Karlsson" <roland_do...@bonetmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns95E6ECD73...@130.133.1.4...
>> > measekite <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:GtzId.14188$5R.12076
>> > @newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:
>> >
>> >> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>> >> both sides of the Atlantic.
>> .
>> Why do the Brits choose to drive on the wrong side of the road?
>>
> Brits drink warm beer ... Why?
>
>
>
> Lucas Refrigerators
>
>
Oh, dear, does the Prince of Darkness make refrigerators too?

Skip M

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Jan 23, 2005, 8:40:12 AM1/23/05
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"Christopher Pollard" <rub...@cginternet.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 01:54:15 +0100, "Bart van der Wolf" <bvd...@no.spam>
> wrote:
>
>>Apparently it comes from the tradition of riding one's horse on the
>>left side of the road, leaving the right hand (side) open for handling
>>the sword, or so I've been told.
>
> I heard that too, and it was that Napoleon bloke who was left handed so
> decided
> that everybody should ride on the wrong side. That's why they drive on the
> right
> side in mainland Europe.
>
> As for spelling, there's also favour, honour, glamour,
> Oh, and it's metre, not meter. A meter is a measuring device, a metre (or
> kilometre, centimetre, etc.) is a unit of length.
>
> http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwesl/egw/jones/differences.htm

>
> --
> Chris Pollard
>
>
> CG Internet café, Tagum City, Philippines
> http://www.cginternet.net

Us Americans decided to drive on the right side of the (rail)road merely
because the Brits drove on the left. Or so I've been told.

All Things Mopar

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Jan 23, 2005, 8:43:01 AM1/23/05
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Tumbleweed commented courteously ...

> And India, Sri Lanka, Cyprus, Malta .......

And, Japan...


>
> I guess americans don't get out much to appreciate
> what other people do.....

Yep! Remember the 1960's movie "The Ugly American"? The
point was, and it's still true today, that American's (of
which I am one!) think that their way is the only way, and
they push into places where they aren't always welcome.

As I commented on in an earlier post, I found London to be
a fantastic place, and the Brits were outstanding in every
way.

--
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Skip M

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"Pete S." <spamPe...@spamderwentspamelec.spamclara.spamco.spamuk> wrote
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Straights are on road circuits, straightaways are on ovals. And the latter
is losing ground to the former.

"Got" is misused, even here, a good 50% of the time

"Expiry", I don't even think that's in an American dictionary.

According to some studies of the English language, American English is
actually closer in usage and pronunciation to 17th century English than
current "Queens" English.

Skip M

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"James Clifford" <jimmy...@spamex.com> wrote in message
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Some Ferrari sports and racing cars were built with right hand drive to put
the driver on the inside of most curves, some limos in the '20s and '30s,
even in the US, were built as right hand drive so the driver didn't have to
walk clear around the car in order to get to the passenger door to let his
employers out...

Skip M

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Jan 23, 2005, 8:57:00 AM1/23/05
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"Pete S." <spamPe...@spamderwentspamelec.spamclara.spamco.spamuk> wrote
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Useless bits, like the extra "g" in "waggon?" ;-)

Skip M

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Jan 23, 2005, 8:59:41 AM1/23/05
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"Christopher Pollard" <rub...@cginternet.net> wrote in message
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Actually, we liberated it from the Spanish, along with Cuba, Puerto Rico and
sundry other small islands. The Japanese "propagandized" that they were
liberating the Philippines from us. We re-liberated it back...

Skip M

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Jan 23, 2005, 9:04:19 AM1/23/05
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"Mike O'Sullivan" <mike.os...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> measekite wrote:
>> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>> both sides of the Atlantic.
>
> Just an attempt by the turbulent colonials to be different from the hated
> English. Why drive on the wrong side of the road otherwise?

That's exactly why our rail roads are on the other side of the track from
the English. And probably why we call them "rail roads" rather than "rail
ways."
Isn't it odd that among all the former colonies of the British Empire, only
the Americans (including Canada and Guiana) and the Africans drive on the
right, the others have stuck to the left?
Does anyone remember that the Swedes used to drive on the right, too?
And know why the Japanese still do?

Skip M

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"Chris Brown" <cpb...@ntlworld.no_uce_please.com> wrote in message
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Don't you spell that nasty growth "tumour?"

Charlie Self

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Jan 23, 2005, 9:35:09 AM1/23/05
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Stu Dapples writes:

>I'm afraid the Yanks have taken a perfectly good and very ancient language
>and strangled it half to death, and the process is continuing. In another
>200 years their version will need an interpreter.

Uh, no. Modern English is about 300 years old. There is a lot in Shakespeare
that is nearly incomprehensible today, in terms of meaning, and Old English is
almost totally incomprehensible. Each 50 year jump sees major changes...and if
Brits need an interpreter to understand American English in 200 years, it won't
make much difference. Americans already can't tell the difference between U and
cockney in speech. Can Brits tell the difference between California and
Virginia?

Charlie Self
"They want the federal government controlling Social Security like it's some
kind of federal program." George W. Bush, St. Charles, Missouri, November 2,
2000

Larry

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Jan 23, 2005, 9:56:40 AM1/23/05
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In article <YOudnTreJ7r...@pipex.net>, m...@example.com says...

> And why do they say 'different than' when it should be 'different to'?
> 'Than' is a comparing word, eg, 'bigger than', 'better than', indicating a
> degree or amount. Different is just different and has no amount. Therefore
> my Canon is better than your Nikon but it's different to a 35mm camera.
> I'm afraid the Yanks have taken a perfectly good and very ancient language
> and strangled it half to death, and the process is continuing. In another
> 200 years their version will need an interpreter.
>


In properly spoken American English (yes there IS such a thing, it works when
you use PROPER Grammar) Different is PROPERLY used in conjuction with the
word "from" as in Sony is different from Canon, or if proper sentance
construction you would say (Sony is differnt when compared to .... Or Canon
is different when compared ......


Then again, there isn't any way to get out children to pay attention, study,
and actually LEARN the lanquage (god forbid there should be discipline in the
schools) so we have raised a generation of illiterate dullards, who cant
comprehend the language they grew up with, let alone the language as it is
used 'round the world.


--
Larry Lynch
Mystic, Ct.

RustYŠ

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Jan 23, 2005, 10:07:15 AM1/23/05
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"Skip M" <shadow...@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> Us Americans decided to drive on the right side of the (rail)road merely
> because the Brits drove on the left. Or so I've been told.
>

Not really. The French generals you employed decided that for you. And
they had been told to do it by Napoleon.


RustYŠ

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"James Clifford" <jimmy...@spamex.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 11:05:01 +0000, Lansbury <lans...@spamcop.net>
> The question should be where is the wheel on the cars the pros
> prefer to drive. ..... do the primarily right handed people have an

advantage
> driving cars in the US and other places.
>

Surley a right handed person would have the advantage of keeping his best
hand on the wheel in a UK spec car.


Goran Larsson

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Jan 23, 2005, 10:48:29 AM1/23/05
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In article <A9OId.16914$ru.4473@fed1read07>,
Skip M <shadow...@cox.net> wrote:

> Does anyone remember that the Swedes used to drive on the right, too?

We still do. However, we did drive on the left (wrong) side before 1967.

It doesn't matter what you think about driving on the right or left
side, in Sweden driving on the left side before 1967 was completely
wrong. The vehicles were left hand drive, and driving a left hand drive
vehicle on the left side of the road made overtaking very dangerous.

This odd combination of left hand drive vehicles and driving on the
left side of the road was thankfully ended in 1967.

--
Göran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com/

SAGOTEB

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Jan 23, 2005, 11:13:01 AM1/23/05
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are you able to understand your own langwitch from 200 years ago?(i am
dutch, and i am certenly don't)
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Doug

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Jan 23, 2005, 11:42:33 AM1/23/05
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Stick shift is a dream for the left handed and as most rental cars in the UK
are stick I love it!!
Doug.


chris...@postmaster.co.uk

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Jan 23, 2005, 11:47:12 AM1/23/05
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I have heard that it's more a matter of eye than hand -- most people
are right-eyed and therefore it's better to have your dominant eye
nearest the centre of the road and oncoming traffic. If so, with
today's obsession with changing things in the interests of safety, I
wonder whether there will ever be a movement to switch everybody to
driving on the left.

As to spelling differences, I understand that a lot is due to Webster's
dictionary which tried to simplify spelling and make it more phonetic.
Chris

Jimmy

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Jan 23, 2005, 12:11:35 PM1/23/05
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It goes way beyond spelling. Take the word 'military' for example.
This would be pronounced 'milatree' which must be the left handed way
to pronounce it. :)

J.

Jimmy

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Jan 23, 2005, 12:13:37 PM1/23/05
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 16:42:33 GMT, "Doug" <dougc...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

I will have to take your word for this but I just can not imagine
myself doing a better job shifting with my left hand if I am right
handed, sorry.

J.

Jimmy

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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 12:50:42 GMT,
spamPe...@spamderwentspamelec.spamclara.spamco.spamuk (Pete S.)
wrote:

Oh, trying to get around the guest ion, hey?

:)

J.

Jimmy

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Jan 23, 2005, 12:28:19 PM1/23/05
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Are there any known great races that have it one way or the other?
Are all the international races the same or do they vary? Are some
tracks traveled CW and others CCW?

J.

Tony

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Jan 23, 2005, 11:38:01 AM1/23/05
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There isn't "Colour" is the accepted spelling on both sides of the Atlantic,
save for a few characters south of the border.

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Frank ess

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Jan 23, 2005, 12:56:16 PM1/23/05
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I haff to laff at that idea.


--
--
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"Because of the Swiss Cheese nature of everyone's life experience and
education, the Whoosh Bird can drop a load on anyone's head, without
warning." -Albrecht Einstein


MarkH

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Jan 23, 2005, 1:43:55 PM1/23/05
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Alfred Molon <alfred_mo...@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:MPG.1c5d89dd7...@news.supernews.com:

> In article <GtzId.14188$5R.1...@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>, measekite

> says...


>> Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>> both sides of the Atlantic.
>

> BTW how do Australians and South Africans spell colour ?

Correctly, just like us New Zealanders.

In the USA they also fail to understand that the Kiwi is a flightless bird
and the brown hairy food we export to them is called 'Kiwifruit'. I'm
surprised that Americans can understand that grapefruit is different to
grapes.


--
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See my pics at www.gigatech.co.nz (last updated 20-Jan-05)
"There are 10 types of people, those that
understand binary and those that don't"

Roland Karlsson

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Jan 23, 2005, 1:49:01 PM1/23/05
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Jimmy <jimmy...@spamex.com> wrote in
news:aan7v0ds0avpa57l4...@4ax.com:

> Oh, trying to get around the guest ion, hey?

No - no - the wheel in the middle of the car and driving
in the middle of the road is to prefere :)

One person cars - and one way roads I assume.


/Roland

rafe bustin

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Jan 23, 2005, 2:36:56 PM1/23/05
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 18:43:55 GMT, MarkH <mar...@atdot.dot.dot> wrote:


>In the USA they also fail to understand that the Kiwi is a flightless bird
>and the brown hairy food we export to them is called 'Kiwifruit'. I'm
>surprised that Americans can understand that grapefruit is different to
>grapes.


If that were the worst of our misunderstandings,
I wouldn't be thinking so hard about moving to NZ.


rafe b.
http://www.terrapinphoto.com

measekite

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Jan 23, 2005, 2:19:21 PM1/23/05
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How about 4FSes

Frank ess wrote:

>J...@no.komm wrote:
>
>
>>In message <DXDId.7745$rp1....@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
>>"Robert Scott" <desm...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>That one bugs me, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>But I'm wondering... how do I expresss the plural of "Nikon F4S"
>>>when I want to say I have two? I usually write "my two Nikon F4S's"
>>>but I'm pretty sure that's wrong. :-)
>>>
>>>
>>I would go with "F4Ses", but I don't know for sure, so I tend to
>>restructure sentences to avoid unknowns.
>>
>>"... my two Nikon F4S cameras ..."
>>
>>
>>
>Ayuh. Back in the 80s and 90s it was "F4Ss". At least in the Joneses'
>neighborhoods...
>
>
>
>

measekite

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Jan 23, 2005, 2:18:24 PM1/23/05
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Bill Gates says that colour is definitely wrong. Every time I spell it
that way Microsoft Word correctly changes it to color.

imbsysop

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"Skip M" <shadow...@cox.net> wrote in message
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.. hmm .. is that why the bulk of the Amercans write/use "definately"
instead of "definitely" .. and "aparature" instead of "aperture" etc ..? ..
and I'm skipping a lot more :-) .. they must have missed the 17th century
English class I believe :-)

(from a non-native English speaker .. :-))


measekite

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Jan 23, 2005, 2:20:16 PM1/23/05
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Webster was not ANAL. Or is it ANAOUL.

Jon Pike wrote:

>measekite <meas...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:GtzId.14188$5R.12076
>@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:


>
>
>
>>Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>>both sides of the Atlantic.
>>
>>
>>
>

>because when webster made his first american dictionary, he thought
>americans were too stupid to remember the proper spelling of words. so he
>changed them by taking out u's and other such things. (s vs z)
>
>
>

measekite

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Jan 23, 2005, 2:24:20 PM1/23/05
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The Brits can never get it right. They think that Socer is Football.
They also think that a Football is round. Are the islanders square?

Confused wrote:

>Jon Pike <Anono...@spamlesshotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>because when webster made his first american dictionary, he thought
>>americans were too stupid to remember the proper spelling of words. so he
>>changed them by taking out u's and other such things. (s vs z)
>>
>>
>

>My grandparents left England, Scotland and Sweden to get
>away from old world thinking. Now look what we done did...
>we let them all back in by allowing the internet to be an
>international affair. We bloody well should have kept
>it a secret. ;^)
>
>They now think that google is a verb and softwares is
>plural for software (which is already plural without
>the "s"). Heck... next thing ya know they will be
>thinking they belong in North American Stock CAR
>racing and who knows what else, eh?
>
>Regardess, their there is our they're there.
>Maybe we need an internet "T" party... heh.
>
>Jeff
>
>

measekite

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Jan 23, 2005, 2:27:47 PM1/23/05
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I thought that colour came from the French?

David J Taylor wrote:

>measekite wrote:
>
>
>>Why is their a difference in the spelling of color (I think colour) on
>>both sides of the Atlantic.
>>
>>
>

>See: "The Adventure of English" by Melvyn Bragg
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> http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0340829931/202-0711118-3652661
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>David
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