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Fred Finisterre

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Sep 25, 2003, 9:03:25 PM9/25/03
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Hi,

I find it a bit of a drag, having to rotate pics 90 degrees one way or the
other on the screen to view them, when I've taken them by turning the camera
on it's side.

Are there any camera/software combinations that record how the camera was
help when the pic was taken and auto-rotate it when transferred to the PC?

Thanks,

Fred.


Lucas Tam

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Sep 25, 2003, 10:52:01 PM9/25/03
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"Fred Finisterre" <finis...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in
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ACDsee has an auto-rotate function - but it only works if your camera has
an orientation sensor.

Anyhow, you can lossless rotate most JPEGs...that way you don't need to
rotate your pics every view, only once.


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jean

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Sep 25, 2003, 10:40:19 PM9/25/03
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My Canon S400 shows the pics correctly on the little screen but I don't use
any of Canon's software to transfer the images on my computer so they are
always horizontal, I then use ROTA to rotate them without loss, easy, fast
and free (
http://www.ba.wakwak.com/~tsuruzoh/Computer/Soft/Rota/readme-e.html )

Jean

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Janko

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Sep 26, 2003, 3:57:28 AM9/26/03
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"Fred Finisterre" <finis...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message news:<bl039f$bph$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>...

Your camera must have the orientation sensor. You than need a software
that can do auto rotation based on exif data.

Here is a (short) summary of the responses I got for my previous post:

> > I am trying to find a software that would automatically rotate my
> > JPEG photos by EXIF Orientation tag. The only solution I could
> > find by now is Photoshop, but unfortunately it "forgets" some of
> > the (probably non standard) fields. Other programs (like
> > IrfanView) do rotate the image, but do not update the EXIF
> > Orientation tag.
> ACDSee has an auto rotate function... and it's a great graphics
> viewer too!

It has an auto rotate function and it can perform batch
operations and "corrects" the EXIF Orientation flag.
Unfortunately (like Photoshop) forgets some of the EXIF fields
(Miscellaneous and Maker Note).

> ... try IrfanView. It can do the same for free.

IrfanView is an excellent viewer and does jpeg loss-less
rotation, but not based on EXIF Orientation. When manually
rotating images it saves all the EXIF fields, but does not update
the Orientation.

> exifautotran is an open source Unix script which does this:
>
> http://jpegclub.org/exif_orientation.html
>
> Note: It is important to use the Exif patched jpegtran version
> for this to work (see Exif Patch Page). ABC-View is a Windows
> application which uses this procedure:
>
> http://www.abc-view.com/articles/article5.html

Actually ABC-View does this all. You can select multiple files
and use the Rotate using EXIF flag command. It also preserves all
EXIF information.

Regards,

Janko

Michael Meissner

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Sep 26, 2003, 10:57:48 AM9/26/03
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"Fred Finisterre" <finis...@postmaster.co.uk> writes:

Most of the newer Canons (at least in the prosumer and dslr categories) have a
sensor that marks the orientation in the header, and the Canon software will
automatically rotate the pictures. I think the newer Kodak cameras may have
this also.

My Olympus camera will allow me to rotate the pictures during review in the
camera, and it will mark in the jpg header the orientation. I wrote a perl
script that I use as part of my download sequence that calls jpegtran to rotate
the pictures losslessly.

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Stewy

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Sep 26, 2003, 11:28:19 PM9/26/03
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"Fred Finisterre" <finis...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
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The easiest solution would be to never take portrait oriented snaps.

Ten

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Sep 27, 2003, 3:50:23 AM9/27/03
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"jean" <look_for@my_email.org> wrote in message
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> My Canon S400 shows the pics correctly on the little screen but I don't
use
> any of Canon's software to transfer the images on my computer so they are
> always horizontal, I then use ROTA to rotate them without loss, easy, fast
> and free (

I have a Canon Ixus V3 (230). I don't use the Canon software to download
pics, I just use windows Explorer to copy the files from the camera. They
all retain their camera selected orientation.

Ten


JunkMonkey

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Sep 27, 2003, 8:47:56 AM9/27/03
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My Canon G3 for sure does this. Canon G5 probably does this since there
doesn't appear to be much difference between the 2.

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Barry Smith

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Sep 27, 2003, 6:12:59 PM9/27/03
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"Stewy" <anyone4...@lycos.com> wrote:

Why aren't photo images (normally) square ? Obviously nothing
to do with the lens. What was the reason for going to rectangular ?

Barry
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Randall Ainsworth

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Sep 28, 2003, 12:21:16 AM9/28/03
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The word is "oriented". There is no such word as 'orientate'.

JunkMonkey

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Sep 28, 2003, 8:55:06 AM9/28/03
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Just speculating here, but paintings for the most part came in "portrait" or
"landscape" mode. If you read up on the history of photography, you will
find in the earliest years of photography that comparisons were constantly
being made to painting, especially portrait painting. Following conventions
of painting, I'm sure, lent an air of legitimacy to this new art form, and
it has trickled down to current times. Human nature and all

OTOH the success of medium format film cameras in the "serious" photo ranks
has created quite a few photographers who like to work in the square mode.
I'm one of 'em.(well, I'm serious, just not any good) Please bear in mind
that because your camera has a rectangular image format, there is no reason
to restrain yourself to the native format of your camera.

If you've got any photos lying about that just don't reflect what you
thought you saw when you shot it, try cropping it to a square, you might
find what it is you though you saw in the first place. (save the original
image, so you can try different versions!)


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Fred Finisterre

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Sep 28, 2003, 1:55:42 PM9/28/03
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> The word is "oriented". There is no such word as 'orientate'.

Wrong! There is such a word. Suggest you pay a visit to dictionary.com and
look it up!

Fred.


Barry Smith

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Sep 28, 2003, 1:14:03 PM9/28/03
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"JunkMonkey" <Jnkm...@notscape.not> wrote:

> Just speculating here, but paintings for the most part came in "portrait" or
> "landscape" mode. If you read up on the history of photography, you will
> find in the earliest years of photography that comparisons were constantly
> being made to painting, especially portrait painting. Following conventions
> of painting, I'm sure, lent an air of legitimacy to this new art form, and
> it has trickled down to current times. Human nature and all

That makes sense.

> OTOH the success of medium format film cameras in the "serious" photo ranks
> has created quite a few photographers who like to work in the square mode.

My father used a twin lens reflex for some time and I have the negatives
which I plan to scan.

> I'm one of 'em.(well, I'm serious, just not any good) Please bear in mind
> that because your camera has a rectangular image format, there is no reason
> to restrain yourself to the native format of your camera.
>
> If you've got any photos lying about that just don't reflect what you
> thought you saw when you shot it, try cropping it to a square, you might
> find what it is you though you saw in the first place. (save the original
> image, so you can try different versions!)

Good idea. Thanks.

Barry
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Martin

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Sep 30, 2003, 4:27:21 AM9/30/03
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"Fred Finisterre" <finis...@postmaster.co.uk> wrote in message
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Many recent Canons do...

Martin


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