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Ron

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Apr 13, 2009, 11:23:56 AM4/13/09
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Bought a new Nikon D40 at a local shop and shot a few test shots.
Downloaded software to view complete EXIF data since Nikon sofftware
doesn't do that. Found that shuttercount, the number of shutter
actuations, was 423 for my first shot. Does this seem shady to anyone?

Ockham's Razor

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Apr 13, 2009, 12:51:11 PM4/13/09
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In article <1iy3r6s.1cvb4a0ld43raN%RonT...@null.com>,
RonT...@null.com (Ron) wrote:

The D40 has been around for a long time. If this was one they used as a
demo there were probably over a hundred potential buyers who tried it
out before you bought it. Have done the same both with cameras and
lenses.

--
I contend we are both atheists - I just believe in
one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you reject all other gods,
you will understand why I reject yours as well.
Stephen F. Roberts

Nicko

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Apr 13, 2009, 12:59:08 PM4/13/09
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On Apr 13, 11:51 am, Ockham's Razor <Menc...@pdx.net> wrote:
> In article <1iy3r6s.1cvb4a0ld43raN%RonThe...@null.com>,

>
>  RonThe...@null.com (Ron) wrote:
> > Bought a new Nikon D40 at a local shop and shot a few test shots.
> > Downloaded software to view complete EXIF data since Nikon sofftware
> > doesn't do that. Found that shuttercount, the number of shutter
> > actuations, was 423 for my first shot. Does this seem shady to anyone?
>
> The D40 has been around for a long time.  If this was one they used as a
> demo there were probably over a hundred potential buyers who tried it
> out before you bought it.  Have done the same both with cameras and
> lenses.

If people had been allowed to test it, then it was not "new" and
should not have been advertised or sold as new.

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YOP...

Ockham's Razor

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Apr 13, 2009, 5:15:58 PM4/13/09
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In article
<fd7b812d-7a0a-44a5...@k38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Nicko <nervou...@gmail.com> wrote:

Don't know about cameras but a lot of cars are sold as demo's and
probably not a few demo's sold as new.

Have to ask the OP if it was sold as new. Maybe it was just "new" to
him.

Get lost

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Apr 13, 2009, 7:05:58 PM4/13/09
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Sure. And normal. Some camera stores are honest and would sell such
a camera as "open box" and provide a small (5%) discount. Most aren't
honest enough.

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Focus

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Apr 13, 2009, 7:19:45 PM4/13/09
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"Ron" <RonT...@null.com> wrote in message
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A lot of stores offer a 10 or 14 day grace period: if you don't like the
camera, you can return it and get another one or even sometimes get your
money back.
Possible you got one that was returned.
But seriously: 423 shots is nothing. I shoot that in an afternoon.

Look at the bright side: at least it works!
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Focus


Charles

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Apr 13, 2009, 7:23:21 PM4/13/09
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"Ron" <RonT...@null.com> wrote in message
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The local shop allowed folks to try the camera. It's perhaps not a virgin,
but not a big deal.


tony cooper

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Apr 14, 2009, 1:00:53 AM4/14/09
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On Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:15:58 -0700, Ockham's Razor <Men...@pdx.net>
wrote:

>In article
><fd7b812d-7a0a-44a5...@k38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> Nicko <nervou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 13, 11:51 am, Ockham's Razor <Menc...@pdx.net> wrote:
>> > In article <1iy3r6s.1cvb4a0ld43raN%RonThe...@null.com>,
>> >
>> >  RonThe...@null.com (Ron) wrote:
>> > > Bought a new Nikon D40 at a local shop and shot a few test shots.
>> > > Downloaded software to view complete EXIF data since Nikon sofftware
>> > > doesn't do that. Found that shuttercount, the number of shutter
>> > > actuations, was 423 for my first shot. Does this seem shady to anyone?
>> >
>> > The D40 has been around for a long time.  If this was one they used as a
>> > demo there were probably over a hundred potential buyers who tried it
>> > out before you bought it.  Have done the same both with cameras and
>> > lenses.
>>
>> If people had been allowed to test it, then it was not "new" and
>> should not have been advertised or sold as new.
>>
>> --
>> YOP...
>
>Don't know about cameras but a lot of cars are sold as demo's and
>probably not a few demo's sold as new.
>
>Have to ask the OP if it was sold as new. Maybe it was just "new" to
>him.

The largest camera store in this town keeps one camera of each type on
the display shelf, and allows the customer to dry fire the camera or -
if the customer supplies the SD card - to take photographs with the
camera inside or just outside the store. If you buy that model
camera, they will ask if you will take the shelf camera but not offer
a dollar-amount discount. If you ask, they'll throw in a filter or an
accessory. Small stuff. I can imagine that camera having a
shutter-count in the low hundreds.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

Matt Clara

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Apr 14, 2009, 7:34:29 PM4/14/09
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"Ockham's Razor" <Men...@pdx.net> wrote in message
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> In article
> <fd7b812d-7a0a-44a5...@k38g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> Nicko <nervou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Apr 13, 11:51 am, Ockham's Razor <Menc...@pdx.net> wrote:
>> > In article <1iy3r6s.1cvb4a0ld43raN%RonThe...@null.com>,
>> >
>> > RonThe...@null.com (Ron) wrote:
>> > > Bought a new Nikon D40 at a local shop and shot a few test shots.
>> > > Downloaded software to view complete EXIF data since Nikon sofftware
>> > > doesn't do that. Found that shuttercount, the number of shutter
>> > > actuations, was 423 for my first shot. Does this seem shady to
>> > > anyone?
>> >
>> > The D40 has been around for a long time. If this was one they used as a
>> > demo there were probably over a hundred potential buyers who tried it
>> > out before you bought it. Have done the same both with cameras and
>> > lenses.
>>
>> If people had been allowed to test it, then it was not "new" and
>> should not have been advertised or sold as new.
>>
>> --
>> YOP...
>
> Don't know about cameras but a lot of cars are sold as demo's and
> probably not a few demo's sold as new.
>
> Have to ask the OP if it was sold as new. Maybe it was just "new" to
> him.
>

The razor's a bit dull today? There would be no point to the op's post if
he didn't think it was "new," as in new, new.

Ockham's Razor

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Apr 14, 2009, 8:22:23 PM4/14/09
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In article <e49Fl.47045$_R4....@newsfe11.iad>,
"Matt Clara" <no...@myexpense.com> wrote:

You may be familiar with the fact that the D40 has been out of
production for about 2 years. Thus, any D40 a camera shop still has in
inventory is probably their last one and was probably used to demo to
try to sell that last one.

And, my question is still unanswered, was it sold as new? Or did the OP
only assume that. The camera shop was not required to go into such
detail unless asked.

whisky-dave

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Apr 15, 2009, 9:06:32 AM4/15/09
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"Ockham's Razor" <Men...@pdx.net> wrote in message
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An interesting point, I sometimes see items sold as 'mint condition' rather
than new,
I assume this to mean the product wasn;t used, perhaps an unwanted or
duplicate gift
at xmas so in effect as good a new apart from breaking seals and maybe a
few test shots
in the case of a camera.
I've often wondered what 'mint' actually means, I think it comes from the
royal mint
meaning a coin fresh from them.

Any idea how many 'pictures' might have been taken during a test procedures
that canon (or Nikon, etc..) might 'take' to test the operation of the
camera of the
production line or perhaps this camera was selected for a quality control
then put back
on the conveyer belt with the rest.

Matt Clara

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Apr 15, 2009, 12:20:31 PM4/15/09
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"Ockham's Razor" <Men...@pdx.net> wrote in message
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Still, it would be an odd question for the OP to ask if he assumed the
camera was anything other than new/unused.

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