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Battery tech improvements are just not happening
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Rich
Jan 13, 2024, 10:10:04 PMJan 13
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I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
Alfred Molon
Jan 14, 2024, 6:47:04 AMJan 14
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Am 14.01.2024 um 04:10 schrieb Rich:
> I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
Sodium batteries are now marketed by CATL.
> I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
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Alan Browne
Jan 14, 2024, 10:19:31 AMJan 14
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On 2024-01-13 22:10, Rich wrote:
> I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
Not at all. It takes a long time for battery technology to be taken up
> I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
and massive investments to scale it up.
Li-ion was well known for decades, but because volatility could not be
widely employed until low cost, reliable charge controllers could be
made en-masse. My 90's era laptops were all NiCd or NiMH even though
Li-ion was used in other narrower applications.
Currently the entire small battery industry is Li-ion oriented. It's
what is spec'd for most things from phones to cars.
Tesla for one keeps tinkering with chemistry to improve them (various
tradeoffs) and will likely begin using newer technology in the coming years.
Easy to gripe. Hard to do.
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Rich
Jan 14, 2024, 5:23:55 PMJan 14
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This'll be on the shelf next week. Really!
https://techxplore.com/news/2024-01-high-energy-sodium-ion-battery.html
geoff
Jan 16, 2024, 5:42:21 PMJan 16
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On 14/01/2024 4:10 pm, Rich wrote:
> I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
If that were correct then I'm sure it would cause you much joy.
> I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
geoff
Rich
Jan 21, 2024, 10:25:46 PMJan 21
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On Saturday 13 January 2024 at 22:10:04 UTC-5, Rich wrote:
> I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
Hey! This'll be available next week! Honest!
> I swear, every WEEK, more often we see new battery tech boldly announced on science and tech sites and NONE of it EVER comes to market. How long have we had lithium ion? DECADES. Yet the iron, sodium, air all endlessly talked about for decades as well, none of it amounts to anything. Battery tech revolutions are like the "hydrogen economy," pure B.S.
https://phys.org/news/2024-01-cobalt-free-batteries-power-cars.html
geoff
Jan 22, 2024, 8:06:34 PMJan 22
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