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egbert_...@hotmail.co.uk

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Dec 17, 2009, 8:16:53 PM12/17/09
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which would you rather have and why?

tony cooper

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Dec 17, 2009, 9:57:59 PM12/17/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:16:53 -0800 (PST),
egbert_...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:

>which would you rather have and why?

If the reviews are correct, the D-60. The D-60 will shoot more
frames-per-second in burst mode. That, to me, is significant.

I'll know for sure next week or so. I have a D-40 and have purchased,
but not received yet, a D-60 as a second body.

The other differences are not important to me.

--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

David J Taylor

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Dec 18, 2009, 2:11:04 AM12/18/09
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<egbert_...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> which would you rather have and why?

I had both and /slightly/ preferred the lower noise in dark regions and
higher resolution of the D60. Shooting speed didn't matter greatly. I
could use either. Both are excellent cameras in their class.

I now have the D5000 and find the focussing in particular somewhat
enhanced over either the D40 or D60, and would not want to go back. Live
video and video modes are nice to have as well.

Cheers,
David

NameHere

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Dec 18, 2009, 4:30:44 PM12/18/09
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On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:57:59 -0500, tony cooper
<tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:16:53 -0800 (PST),
>egbert_...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
>
>>which would you rather have and why?
>
>If the reviews are correct, the D-60. The D-60 will shoot more
>frames-per-second in burst mode. That, to me, is significant.
>

Also significant to the anarchist machine-gunning snapshooter who hopes
that something they shot that year might have some redeeming value. Do you
relate? I figured you would. All who pride their cameras on their burst
rates do so for that exact reason.

Get a video camera and leave it on all the time. Perchance a single from
what it captures in your miserable life might one day want to be seen by
others--if you are lucky.

egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:48:23 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 9:30 pm, NameHere <w...@address.info> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:57:59 -0500, tony cooper
>

hi, mr (mr's?) name here

what camera do you use please?

I don't require video also

egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:49:44 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 7:11 am, "David J Taylor" <david-tay...@blueyonder.delete-
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> <egbert_no_ba...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

i thank you david

egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 18, 2009, 5:50:26 PM12/18/09
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On Dec 18, 2:57 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:16:53 -0800 (PST),
>
> egbert_no_ba...@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
> >which would you rather have and why?
>
> If the reviews are correct, the D-60.  The D-60 will shoot more
> frames-per-second in burst mode.  That, to me, is significant.
>
> I'll know for sure next week or so.  I have a D-40 and have purchased,
> but not received yet, a D-60 as a second body.
>
> The other differences are not important to me.
>
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

i thank you tony

David J Taylor

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Dec 19, 2009, 3:24:54 AM12/19/09
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"egbert_no_bacon" <egbert_...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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It is a resident troll - and best ignored.

David

Neil Harrington

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Dec 19, 2009, 5:43:02 PM12/19/09
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<egbert_...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> which would you rather have and why?

The D60.

The D40X is essentially the same camera as the original D40 but with a
10-megapixel sensor instead of 6. The D60 on the other hand has various
other improvements as well, including the newer "Expeed" image processor,
Active D-Lighting, an eye sensor at the viewfinder, an electronic
rangefinder in case you ever need to use manual focusing, and (if you buy it
with the usual kit lens) a superior 18-55mm VR lens instead of the (already
excellent) non-stabilized version.

If you're planning on buying a new one, you might also want to consider the
latest entry-level model, the D3000, which is basically a D60 with further
improvements.


egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 19, 2009, 6:41:54 PM12/19/09
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On Dec 19, 10:43 pm, "Neil Harrington" <ne...@home.com> wrote:
> <egbert_no_ba...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

the problem was (and reason for the question) is that i have seen on
ebay d60's cheaper than d40x's

sorta threw me that, that one

i thank you

tony cooper

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Dec 19, 2009, 7:28:53 PM12/19/09
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I was in the market for a camera body only. The D-3000 is not
available as a body-only yet, so I bought a D-60 to go with my D-40
lenses.

Neil Harrington

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Dec 19, 2009, 8:31:56 PM12/19/09
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Yes, that seems odd. The D60 is definitely the more advanced camera. I don't
have a D40X, but I have an original D40 and also a D60, and just about a
week ago bought a D3000. I love these small-body Nikon DSLRs! . . . But
don't need that many of them, and will probably put the D40 up for sale on
eBay next month.

>
> i thank you

You're welcome. Another new feature of the D60 that I forgot to mention is
its sensor anti-dust system. Very worthwhile.


David J Taylor

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Dec 20, 2009, 2:20:11 AM12/20/09
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"Neil Harrington" <ne...@home.com> wrote in message
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> You're welcome. Another new feature of the D60 that I forgot to mention
> is its sensor anti-dust system. Very worthwhile.

Yes, I'd forgotten about that, and the Active-D lighting. Definitely
makes the D60 a more desirable item, although I'd still recommend the
D5000 (or D3000) over either model if cost isn't a major deciding factor.

David

egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:04:01 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 7:20 am, "David J Taylor" <david-tay...@blueyonder.delete-

oooops, read this early morning and rushed out and brought the body

i seem to have forgotten to add a '0'

i was looking at the d5000 or d300 (i thought) on your recommendation

the shop worker helped here also so i have returned with a d300, is
this any good

i could aways take it back and say i got the wrong present or
something

my mistake I know


David J Taylor

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Dec 20, 2009, 5:23:58 PM12/20/09
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> oooops, read this early morning and rushed out and brought the body
>
> i seem to have forgotten to add a '0'
>
> i was looking at the d5000 or d300 (i thought) on your recommendation
>
> the shop worker helped here also so i have returned with a d300, is
> this any good
>
> i could aways take it back and say i got the wrong present or
> something
>
> my mistake I know

Well, the D300 is about four times the price of the D3000! It lacks the
swivel LCD and video capabilities of the D5000, and is more "serious" (and
heavy) camera. Yes, it is an excellent camera.

Cheers,
David

egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 20, 2009, 7:04:39 PM12/20/09
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On Dec 20, 10:23 pm, "David J Taylor" <david-tay...@blueyonder.delete-

video i dont need as i said above so this is good

i also dont have to take back these three lenses the shop keeper
thought might help also, so this is even better news to me

prob i got now, i just found out i won a d40x and d80 on ebay however
at least i now got lens for each if they fit/work here, so good news i
hope, thanks again

right, i'm off, weddings anyone


Neil Harrington

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Dec 21, 2009, 1:59:37 AM12/21/09
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It's a lot more than "any good," it's a much higher grade of camera than the
models we've been discussing.

It's also a lot more camera than you probably need at this stage of your
photography, but if you don't mind the much higher price (and greater
weight), that's fine. You certainly won't outgrow the camera in a hurry (if
ever)!

>
> i could aways take it back and say i got the wrong present or
> something
>
> my mistake I know

I'm just curious as to why you (apparently) didn't balk at the much higher
price than the models we've been talking about..


egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 21, 2009, 5:26:18 PM12/21/09
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> price than the models we've been talking about..- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

originally the model i was after was for a gift for xmas however after
spending a few days reading this group and seeing the mistakes and
misinformation being discussed (and endorsed even) elsewhere I just
had to get involved albeit in a big way

i now have the gift and my own camera (or two now) and three lenses to
play with

no matter what i do, i seem to do it in a big way, it is just in my
character sorry


tony cooper

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:02:18 PM12/21/09
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The DX lenses designated for the D-40, D-40x, D-60, and D-3000 are all
interchangeable on all of those bodies. I don't know if they work on
the D-5000 or if D-5000 lenses work on those bodies. You'll find out,
I suppose.

egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 21, 2009, 6:57:53 PM12/21/09
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> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

i sure will

i can say at this moment in time, that the 50mm f2.8 dg macro ex sigma
does not auto-focus on the d40x

hope it helps

tony cooper

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Dec 21, 2009, 7:28:51 PM12/21/09
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There is no focus mechanism in the D-40, D-40x, D-60, and D-3000
bodies. The auto-focus for those bodies is in the DX lenses
designated for those bodies. Other lenses that fit the bodies, but do
not have the focus mechanism built-in to the lens, will work only on
manual focus.

egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 21, 2009, 8:02:07 PM12/21/09
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On Dec 22, 12:28 am, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:57:53 -0800 (PST), egbert_no_bacon
>
>
>
>
>

so the other two will work just fine

sp af17-50 f/2.8 xr ld aspherical (if) tamron
af-s vr zoom-nikkor 70-200 f/2.8g if-ed

i thank you

David J Taylor

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:13:18 AM12/22/09
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"tony cooper" <> wrote in message
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> The DX lenses designated for the D-40, D-40x, D-60, and D-3000 are all
> interchangeable on all of those bodies. I don't know if they work on
> the D-5000 or if D-5000 lenses work on those bodies. You'll find out,
> I suppose.

The D5000 accepts any lens which works on the D40, D40X, D60, D3000 etc.,
and vice-versa.

Cheers,
David

J�rgen Exner

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Dec 22, 2009, 3:40:08 AM12/22/09
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>i can say at this moment in time, that the 50mm f2.8 dg macro ex sigma
>does not auto-focus on the d40x

Why instead of giving random examples don't you simply break it down in
a coherent and understandable manner?

First: there are full-frame and DX-lenses. Full-frame lenses work on any
camera, DX as well as FF, while DX lenses have a smaller picture
circle, therefore are likely to cause vignetting on a full-frame camera,
and thus should not be used on such.

Second: For autofocus to work on D40/D40x/D60/D5000 they require an AF-S
lens because they don't have the motor to drive older AF lenses without
the -S designator. For Sigma lenses the corresponding designation is
HSM, for Tamron it's NII.

In addition even very old lenses (>30 years) will work on some bodies,
but unless you are sitting on a stockpile of old lenses or are looking
for a specific old lens for a special purpose there is no reason to go
into those details.

jue

tony cooper

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Dec 22, 2009, 9:50:52 AM12/22/09
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:13:18 GMT, "David J Taylor"
<david-...@blueyonder.delete-this-bit.and-this-part.co.uk.invalid>
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"Accepts" or "accepts and auto-focuses"? I really don't know.

David J Taylor

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Dec 22, 2009, 1:51:21 PM12/22/09
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"tony cooper" <tony_co...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>>The D5000 accepts any lens which works on the D40, D40X, D60, D3000
>>etc.,
>>and vice-versa.
>
> "Accepts" or "accepts and auto-focuses"? I really don't know.
>
> --
> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida

If a lens works in a particular manner on the D40/D40x/60, it will work in
just the same way on the D3000/5000. The current range of Nikon lenses
auto-expose and auto-focus on these cameras.

Cheers,
David

Bristolian

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Dec 22, 2009, 2:40:58 PM12/22/09
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egbert_no_bacon wrote:

>
> so the other two will work just fine
>
> sp af17-50 f/2.8 xr ld aspherical (if) tamron
> af-s vr zoom-nikkor 70-200 f/2.8g if-ed
>
> i thank you
>
>
>

There is a complete (as of 11 Dec 09) list of Nikon and 3rd party lenses
that will auto-focus on the D40/40X/60/3000/5000 on Nikonians at
http://tinyurl.com/yavfsc9

HTH :-)

--
Regards


Bristolian

egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 22, 2009, 8:00:56 PM12/22/09
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On Dec 22, 8:40 am, Jürgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> egbert_no_bacon <egbert_no_ba...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >On Dec 21, 11:02 pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> The DX lenses designated for the D-40, D-40x, D-60, and D-3000 are all
> >> interchangeable on all of those bodies.  I don't know if they work on
> >> the D-5000 or if D-5000 lenses work on those bodies.  You'll find out,
> >> I suppose.
>
> >i can say at this moment in time, that the 50mm f2.8 dg macro ex sigma
> >does not auto-focus on the d40x
>
> Why instead of giving random examples don't you simply break it down in
> a coherent and understandable manner?

why don’t you do what you preach here and tell us to whom you are
replying

tony has replied but you use my last reply

the total confusion for this is yours alone = Jürgen Exner

J�rgen Exner

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Dec 23, 2009, 1:36:07 AM12/23/09
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egbert_no_bacon <egbert_...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>On Dec 22, 8:40�am, J�rgen Exner <jurge...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> egbert_no_bacon <egbert_no_ba...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> >On Dec 21, 11:02�pm, tony cooper <tony_cooper...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >> The DX lenses designated for the D-40, D-40x, D-60, and D-3000 are all
>> >> interchangeable on all of those bodies. �I don't know if they work on
>> >> the D-5000 or if D-5000 lenses work on those bodies. �You'll find out,
>> >> I suppose.
>>
>> >i can say at this moment in time, that the 50mm f2.8 dg macro ex sigma
>> >does not auto-focus on the d40x
>>
>> Why instead of giving random examples don't you simply break it down in
>> a coherent and understandable manner?
>
>why don�t you do what you preach here and tell us to whom you are
>replying

As indicated by the quotation marks ">" and the ".... wrote" I am
replying to a certain egbert_no_bacon <egbert_no_ba...@hotmail.co.uk

>tony has replied but you use my last reply

Yes. Exactly as I intended to do. Is there anything wrong with that?

>the total confusion for this is yours alone = J�rgen Exner

Why do you believe I am confused?

jue

Neil Harrington

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Dec 23, 2009, 7:57:21 PM12/23/09
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I'm getting confused. You said you bought a D300. Are you saying you *also*
bought a D40X?

>>
>> There is no focus mechanism in the D-40, D-40x, D-60, and D-3000
>> bodies. The auto-focus for those bodies is in the DX lenses
>> designated for those bodies. Other lenses that fit the bodies, but do
>> not have the focus mechanism built-in to the lens, will work only on
>> manual focus.
>>
>> --
>> Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> so the other two will work just fine
>
> sp af17-50 f/2.8 xr ld aspherical (if) tamron
> af-s vr zoom-nikkor 70-200 f/2.8g if-ed
>
> i thank you

Those are excellent lenses. You certainly "do it in a big way," as you say.
You did not get a kit lens with the D40X?

By the way, if you want a macro lens that will autofocus properly on both
the D40 and D300, I recommend the Tamron 90mm f/2.8 SP Macro very highly.
Just make sure if you buy one that it's the latest model with built-in motor
(for autofocusing), because the earlier version does not have the AF motor
built-in and will not autofocus on the D40X, though of course it will on the
D300.

If you're in the mood to buy any more cameras, consider either the D60 or
D3000 for reasons stated previously, and by all means get one with the
18-55mm F/3.5-5.6 VR kit lens. It would only cost you about $100 more with
lens than the body alone, and the kit lens is a bargain when bought that
way. It's much smaller and lighter than the lenses you have now. Either the
D60 or D3000 (but especially the latter because of its "Guide" feature and
other enhancements) is an excellent camera for someone who's more or less a
newcomer to digital SLRs, and still is a camera you wouldn't outgrow. (I
have bigger and more advanced Nikons too, but still love my D60 and D3000
for their compactness and light weight.)


egbert_no_bacon

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Dec 24, 2009, 9:04:44 PM12/24/09
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> for their compactness and light weight.)- Hide quoted text -


sorry tony,

to clarify, i have too date purchased, d40x, d80 and d300

and some flash thing called an sb800

all nikon stuff

Neil Harrington

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Dec 27, 2009, 7:18:25 PM12/27/09
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I'm Neil. :-)

>
> to clarify, i have too date purchased, d40x, d80 and d300
>
> and some flash thing called an sb800
>
> all nikon stuff

All very good, too. For someone who apparently is relatively new to digital
SLR photography, you certainly have acquired some choice hardware. I'm sure
you will be very happy with it.


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