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Ken

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Apr 22, 2009, 12:45:22 PM4/22/09
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I have an older Nikon 7900 with 2" screen and even in normal light sometimes
have to take a guess when outside that I have got the subject in frame. I
was thinking of getting a modern digi camera with 2.5 or bigger LCD screen
but only if I feel convinced they are better to use outside. Whats the point
in having to guess the shot???

Anyone with a modern camera with the LCD that will work in brighter
conditions?

Ken

Jürgen Exner

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Apr 22, 2009, 1:19:16 PM4/22/09
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"Ken" <no...@none.co.uk> wrote:
>I have an older Nikon 7900 with 2" screen and even in normal light sometimes
>have to take a guess when outside that I have got the subject in frame. I
>was thinking of getting a modern digi camera with 2.5 or bigger LCD screen
>but only if I feel convinced they are better to use outside. Whats the point
>in having to guess the shot???

That's what a viewfinder is for. They are becoming a rare breed, but you
can still find them.

jue

Ken

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Apr 22, 2009, 1:39:30 PM4/22/09
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Sone of the Canons have them but not a wide angle lens I need. My Nikon 7900
has a viewfinder but with only a 75% of what you see is what you get. So I
end up using it and cropping in the software to get what I need for my idea
of the right composition.

Ken

Charles

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Apr 22, 2009, 6:17:01 PM4/22/09
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"Ken" <no...@none.co.uk> wrote in message
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LCDs are terrible in outside bright light.


Alfred Molon

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Apr 22, 2009, 6:28:43 PM4/22/09
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In article <49ef49a2$0$2544$da0f...@news.zen.co.uk>, Ken says ...
The LCD of the Sony R1 works fine even in the brightest daylight, even
with the midday sun shining on it. On the other hand the LCD of the Sony
A350 (a DSLR) performs quite poorly in bright light.
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Stormin Mormon

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Apr 22, 2009, 8:22:33 PM4/22/09
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Much the same problem, here. Sometimes when it's really bad,
I use my ball cap, or my jacket to shade the screen a bit.
Like the old guys with the 4 x 5 view cameras used to do.

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Bob Williams

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Apr 23, 2009, 1:09:01 AM4/23/09
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You may want to consider a camera with an EVF (Electronic View
Finder)such as one of the Panasonic FZ series.
They show 100% of what the sensor captures. NO guess work at all!
You can crop exactly how you want the image to look. Not having to crop
later, effectively gives you more pixels to use in the image itself.
The FZ-50 is Panny's Flagship entry in the big zoom competition.
It isn't pocketable by any means but it is incredibly versatile and puts
you in charge of most photographic situations.
Like ALL small sensor cameras, it suffers a bit in very low light level
situations. But IMHO, its benefits far outweigh this shortcoming.
Bob Williams

David J Taylor

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Apr 23, 2009, 3:39:48 AM4/23/09
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Charles wrote:
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> LCDs are terrible in outside bright light.

You haven't seen a transreflective LCD, have you?

David

J. Clarke

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Apr 23, 2009, 7:17:12 AM4/23/09
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How wide do you need to go? The 7900 has 38mm equivalent. A Canon G10 goes
to 28mm equivalent, which is a great deal wider, but still has the 77% or so
optical finder. You might want to look into something like an SX10IS, which
has an eye-level LCD that works fine in sunlight and a lens that goes to
28mm equivalent.

Alternatively, just get yourself a DSLR and whatever wide angle you need and
be done with it.

Chris Malcolm

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Apr 23, 2009, 9:20:01 AM4/23/09
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I haven't, but my camera also has a live view video output, so with a
piece of wire and a portable LCD monitor which is easily viewable in
bright sunlight (and devours batteries :-) I can use live view in the
sun.

But I mostly use it as a way of seeing the live view when I'm several
feet away from the camera. For simple holiday snaphot portability a
small folding black umbrella keeps both rain and sun off the camera.

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Mike S.

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Apr 23, 2009, 4:54:41 PM4/23/09
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In article <8XUHl.18007$OO7...@text.news.virginmedia.com>,

I'm not the OP, but your point is a good one.

I have seen a transflective screen. I see it every day on my Nokia cell
phone, and every time I drive, on my Garmin GPS unit. Both of them are
equally readable (but not necessarily true to color) in the dark as well
as bright, direct sunlight.


Why the hell can't camera makers get with the program?


ray

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Apr 23, 2009, 5:37:10 PM4/23/09
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On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:45:22 +0100, Ken wrote:

> I have an older Nikon 7900 with 2" screen and even in normal light
> sometimes have to take a guess when outside that I have got the subject
> in frame. I was thinking of getting a modern digi camera with 2.5 or
> bigger LCD screen but only if I feel convinced they are better to use
> outside. Whats the point in having to guess the shot???

Exactly. IMHO - today's LCD screens are not any good in any weather. I
can't compose a picture with the camera is out at arm's length - I use a
Kodak P850 with a decent EVF and I use that.

Chris Malcolm

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Apr 24, 2009, 6:34:29 AM4/24/09
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Mike S. <rets...@xinap.moc> wrote:

I suspect it's the current impossibility of getting reasonably good
colours and contrasts over the transmissive/reflective transition
which bothers them. The LCD would stop being a reasonably accurate
impression of the final image and could mislead people.

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Chris Malcolm

Ken

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Apr 27, 2009, 8:47:49 AM4/27/09
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Thanks you to you all for helping with this.

Coincidently we had a friend stay this weekend who had a Paznasonic FZ18 so
was able to make comparisons with my Nikon. It does prove the modern cameras
LCD can be viewed in bright conditions. But it also proved that I don't want
to carry this size of camera around. So I am now looking for smaller like
the Panasonic TZ5 or TZ4 but the drawback is no viewfinder but good zoom.
The Canon G10 looks perfect but I haven't go that sort of budget �400!!!
Half that at most :-)

So 28mm, viewfinder, image stabilisation, �200 max and I will start looking
at Dpreview unless anyone shouts with suggestions. I see Sony DSC W170 looks
interesting and wonder if anyone has any experience of this camera?

Ken

Deep Reset

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Apr 27, 2009, 4:04:44 PM4/27/09
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"Ken" <no...@none.co.uk> wrote in message
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Secondhand G9 *almost* fits the bill (not quite wide enough).

Ken

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Apr 28, 2009, 3:23:49 AM4/28/09
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If money was no problem this would be my idea of the right camera - well the
G10

Ken

Deep Reset

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"Ken" <no...@none.co.uk> wrote in message
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Too many pixels on too small a sensor.

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