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Britain moves even further towards control of all people, all activities

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RichA

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May 22, 2012, 4:01:47 PM5/22/12
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DanP

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May 23, 2012, 5:13:02 AM5/23/12
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On Tuesday, 22 May 2012 21:01:47 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/538755/photography-on-underground-set-for-outright-ban-update-friday

Good luck imposing the ban. In my living room I have a canvas of a photo taken by me in a Glasgow Subway station.

At the time I had no idea what their policy was, me so I took no chance and did it without drawing too much attention and that was with a DSLR in a Lowepro slingbag. As it is private property it is within their rights to set the rules.

To prove a point I could go back and take it again, what would I risk? A lifetime ban on the Subway?

See how they treat the Duke of Wellington in Glasgow, the bloke who defeated Napoleon. http://goo.gl/jQDnU


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PeterN

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May 23, 2012, 10:42:53 AM5/23/12
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On 5/22/2012 7:38 PM, MC wrote:
> RichA wrote:
>
>>
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/538755/photography-on-underground-set-for-outright-ban-update-friday
>
> It is technically private property so the "owners" can dictate what
> they like. It is the same with any privately owned properties,
> shopping malls, restaurants, office blocks, other public transport
> buildings. They can all make whatever rules they like with regards
> photography and quite often do, whereever you may be in the world.
> However, this does not mean these countries are moving towards further
> "control" because it has always been the same and these
> companies/property owners are just being idiots.

Many times there is good reason. Why did Kodak ban photography on it's
factory tours.


>
> You sensationalise too much.
>

The poor soul s bored.


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Martin Brown

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May 24, 2012, 5:17:22 AM5/24/12
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On 23/05/2012 00:38, MC wrote:
> RichA wrote:
>
>>
> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/538755/photography-on-underground-set-for-outright-ban-update-friday
>
> It is technically private property so the "owners" can dictate what
> they like. It is the same with any privately owned properties,
> shopping malls, restaurants, office blocks, other public transport
> buildings. They can all make whatever rules they like with regards
> photography and quite often do, whereever you may be in the world.
> However, this does not mean these countries are moving towards further
> "control" because it has always been the same and these
> companies/property owners are just being idiots.
>
> You sensationalise too much.

He doesn't seem to be able to understand the difference between a
private company enforcing *its* rights over what is done on its land and
the UK government. Stupid twisted halfwit troll that he is.

These landowners rights over what they permit have always existed
although they are seldom enforced against private non-commercial
photographers. For commercial use you do have to be very careful that
you are not stood on the wrong side of brass studs in the pavement (US
sidewalk) which denotes the public/private landowner boundary.

A few high profile cases have rested on where the photographer was
stood. See Refuge Assurance v King's College, Cambridge ca 1978 for
instance where a whole ad campaign had to be shredded.

The studs on pavement are actually quite common in major UK cities. A
small notice on the wall or not-so-small in supermarkets and malls
forbidding photography or imposing other rules on the private land may
be displayed by the landowner or simply a "Private - Keep Out" sign.

There are plenty of places where the public is allowed to walk through
private land but is not given any public right of way. The route has to
be barred at least once per year to prevent new rights of way forming.
(usually Christmas Day but not always)

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RichA

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May 24, 2012, 10:05:43 AM5/24/12
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On May 24, 5:17 am, Martin Brown <|||newspam...@nezumi.demon.co.uk>
wrote:
> On 23/05/2012 00:38, MC wrote:
>
> > RichA wrote:
>
> >http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/photo-news/538755/photography-on...
>
> > It is technically private property so the "owners" can dictate what
> > they like.  It is the same with any privately owned properties,
> > shopping malls, restaurants, office blocks, other public transport
> > buildings.  They can all make whatever rules they like with regards
> > photography and quite often do, whereever you may be in the world.
> > However, this does not mean these countries are moving towards further
> > "control" because it has always been the same and these
> > companies/property owners are just being idiots.
>
> > You sensationalise too much.
>
> He doesn't seem to be able to understand the difference between a
> private company enforcing *its* rights over what is done on its land and
> the UK government. Stupid twisted halfwit troll that he is.
>
You queer little "company man."

DanP

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May 24, 2012, 11:39:36 AM5/24/12
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Irwell

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May 24, 2012, 11:46:20 AM5/24/12
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Or take a ride with this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEg9mBWl1us&feature=fvst

It seems an old system but well maintained and clean,
no graffiti on this video.

I remember the Glasgow trams taking us out to
the HLI barracks at Maryhill in the 1940s.

PeterN

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May 27, 2012, 4:54:03 PM5/27/12
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I guess that means any of us can go to your house and photograph
whatever we want, at any time of the day or night.

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Peter

Grimly Curmudgeon

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May 28, 2012, 8:05:43 AM5/28/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 10:42:53 -0400, PeterN
<pete...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

>Many times there is good reason. Why did Kodak ban photography on it's
>factory tours.

Yeah, because Glasgow Underground is such a hotbed of design
innovation and nothing short of a sheer patent factory - everybody
know that and the industrial spies would be all over it if they could.

<facepalm>

Honestly, I've not read a bigger load of sheer shite on here for weeks
and that's saying something.

PeterN

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May 28, 2012, 8:37:39 AM5/28/12
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Please read my comment. "Many times" has a specific meaning.

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Mxsmanic

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May 28, 2012, 11:23:35 AM5/28/12
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PeterN writes:

> Please read my comment. "Many times" has a specific meaning.

To which specific number does it correspond?

PeterN

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May 28, 2012, 5:05:44 PM5/28/12
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Troll question not worthy of answer.


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Grimly Curmudgeon

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May 29, 2012, 3:50:14 PM5/29/12
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On Sun, 27 May 2012 16:54:03 -0400, PeterN
<pete...@nospam.verizon.net> wrote:

>I guess that means any of us can go to your house and photograph
>whatever we want, at any time of the day or night.

From the pavement, certainly. Welcome. Fecking Google did it without
any permission, as none is needed.
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