it has a strange, slightly surreal look about it that I find charming.
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For me , the most distracting thing about it is the uncorrected
diverging verticals. Some correction of that (perhaps not total)
would have been welcome.
But overall, I agree. Too much effort has gone into manipulation of
an image that was perhaps not such a good choice of starting point.
But who do we blame for that? Those who develop image editing
software who sell it on the basis that it can turn mediocre images
into masterpieces?
You must hate paintings and drawings, which are
completely manipulated, with no "original"
data at all.
BugBear
Love it.
Would look great at some kind of bar, club, etc.
And that's where we disagree. I find the diverging verticals contribute a
lot to the general surreal feeling of the photo. The more I look at it, the
more I like it.
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Tom Royer
If you're not free to fail, you're not free. -- Gene Burns
Show it to someone who did not know any better and they would say it
was not a photograph but an image pulled straight from a computer game.
Well over-processed but mysteriously engaging.
On the fence.
MC
I love the light and processing, and technically it's very well done.
But in the end it's just an empty staircase. There's no real subject.
It's like a movieset without the actors.
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In a wide-angle shot like that, the verticals are going to diverge. If you
"correct" them, something else has to give. (For example, the upper stairway
might start to curve.) I might quibble over which line was positioned as the
true vertical. (Usually you want it to be the one to which your eve is most
immediately drawn.) But I think it would be a mistake to attempt any
perspective correction of this image.
Bob
I tend to agree. Though at first I thought it was another HDR
monstrosity, it isn't, just an interesting interpretation of the
subject.
> Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com
Spooky!
Very Blade-Runner-eque, I like it too.
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It could be corrected but the perspective adds to the feeling in a
powerful way. We are used to looking up in photos & seeing it taper
toward the top, this angle is very disturbing.
That's like saying no message can be imparted, no story told, no symbollism
posited, without a human in an image. That's just silly.
It kicks ass.
>>> > I saw it on Dpreview, one of their challenges. Whenever I see an
>>> > image,
>>> > particularly a manipulated one, I asked myself, "Would I hang it on
>>> > a wall where I'd be looking at it every day?"
>>> >
>>> > http://c.img-dpreview.com/0152635-01.jpg
>>>
>>> I love the light and processing, and technically it's very well done.
>>> But in the end it's just an empty staircase. There's no real subject.
>>> It's like a movieset without the actors.
>
> That's like saying no message can be imparted, no story told, no
> symbollism posited, without a human in an image. That's just silly.
It would be if that was what I said. But I didn't.
It's beyond photography even if (a) photo(s) was(were) used as a
baseline for the image. It would be interesting to see the original
photos used.
In terms of colour and tone it's more like an oil painting.
Nothing I'd hang on my wall however.
What Matt said. And more.
This reminds me of the movie critic who panned a film because "...they go
on a journey, things happen, and it ends." Depending upon your definition
of journey, doesn't that describe just about every film ever made.
In a similar way, your criticism of this photo boils down to "there are no
people."
That pretty much describes Ansel Adams' landscapes and a lot of landscape
paintings.
It may not be to your taste, but there a lot of plusses to this image and
I, for one, like it a lot
>>> http://c.img-dpreview.com/0152635-01.jpg
>>
>> I love the light and processing, and technically it's very well done.
>> But in the end it's just an empty staircase. There's no real subject.
>> It's like a movieset without the actors.
>
> This reminds me of the movie critic who panned a film because "...they
> go on a journey, things happen, and it ends." Depending upon your
> definition of journey, doesn't that describe just about every film ever
> made.
>
> In a similar way, your criticism of this photo boils down to "there are
> no people."
No it doesn't.
> That pretty much describes Ansel Adams' landscapes and a lot of
> landscape paintings.
Matt, Alan and you are the ones generalizing my comment.
I didn't do that myself.
> It may not be to your taste, but there a lot of plusses to this image
I didn't say there are no plusses to this image. I even complimented on a
couple of them myself.
If anyone else cares to reply to my comment, I'd suggest you READ my
comment first.
And maybe rewrite it. When I read it I get the impression he would
hate the work (or subject matter, at least) of decay photographers
like Rob Dobi. (I mention him in particular because he's been a bit of
an inspiration to me in my photography, showing how much you can find
beauty and interest in things that would ordinarily fall beneath
notice. He's not the only one, but I like him.)
>>> If anyone else cares to reply to my comment, I'd suggest you READ my
>>> comment first.
>>>
>>I suggest that _you_ should re-read your comment.
>
> And maybe rewrite it. When I read it I get the impression he would hate
> the work (or subject matter, at least) of decay photographers like Rob
> Dobi.
That's because when YOU read it, somehow your twisted mind extends my
comment - which was aimed at a SINGLE image - to ALL decay photography.
I'm not going to rewrite my comments to be idiot proof.
The uniformly sharp depth of field and lack of random dust and dirt makes it
difficult to dispell the initial impression that the image is entirely CGI.
If you're into digital texturing and mood lighting, this might be a picture
for your wall. I much prefer the endless irregularities and nonlinearities
that together make up real life. The composition and viewpoint sends a
powerful message, but overall I see very little else that sparks of creative
originality or technical brilliance.
> >http://c.img-dpreview.com/0152635-01.jpg
>
> I love the light and processing, and technically it's very well done.
> But in the end it's just an empty staircase. There's no real subject.
> It's like a movieset without the actors.
>
> --
> Regards, Robert http://www.arumes.com
I think differently; more than anything else there is a lot of Human
in the picture, from the wear of the stair and the banister to the
graffiti and the bike parked on the upper level.
My describing it brings to mind the phrase "if these walls could
talk..." we've all heard of.
berk
>> http://c.img-dpreview.com/0152635-01.jpg
>
> The uniformly sharp depth of field and lack of random dust and dirt makes
> it difficult to dispell the initial impression that the image is entirely
> CGI. If you're into digital texturing and mood lighting, this might be a
> picture for your wall. I much prefer the endless irregularities and
> nonlinearities that together make up real life. The composition and
> viewpoint sends a powerful message, but overall I see very little else
> that sparks of creative originality or technical brilliance.
I quite like it. However, to my tastes the HDR needs toning down a lot.
The great shame is that no-one is looking after the building, a lick of
fresh paint would work wonders.
Pete
I'm a foe of fresh paint on old buildings. I like the old, the rusty,
the shopworn, and the derelict look. They make good photographic
subjects.
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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
> I'm a foe of fresh paint on old buildings. I like the old, the rusty,
> the shopworn, and the derelict look. They make good photographic
> subjects.
>
>
When did you last paint your house...
It looks like a waste of a good building.
But would make for a boring photo.
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