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RichA

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Dec 8, 2009, 6:56:29 PM12/8/09
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How could they not? You f--- with the rights of enough innocent
people, you are bound to catch at least one terrorist in the process.
Unless you defy the law of averages.
P.S. I think the creation of "special constables" is a nice idea.
Integrating the retarded into society and all. Maybe they could
rename them, "special needs constables?"

http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/

Irwell

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Dec 8, 2009, 9:27:05 PM12/8/09
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'Cos you can't trust a special
like the old time coppers when you can't
find your own way 'ome'
The Old Kent Road.

MC

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Dec 8, 2009, 9:32:39 PM12/8/09
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RichA wrote:

I think you refer to Police Community Support Officers or "plastic
policemen" as they are known here in the UK. They are a cheap way of
maintaining an authoritative presence on the streets. Most UK citizens
show them very little little respect. These officers can and
occasionally do try and act above their staion but to all intent and
purpose they have very few powers and cannot search or arrest you and
in many cases cannot even detain you. You can, in effect, walk away
from a PCSO if they approach you.

MC

Rich

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Dec 8, 2009, 10:31:20 PM12/8/09
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The most dangerous thing is to give power or authority to people who
wouldn't have a chance in Hell of obtaining that power through
legitimate means. Someone likes to play cop? Watch out.

Paul Heslop

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Dec 9, 2009, 1:24:41 AM12/9/09
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yeah, all those terrible movies!

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Mahatma Vindaloo

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Dec 9, 2009, 2:58:58 AM12/9/09
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"RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:544f07c4-dc11-4e30...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

You are getting confused between Special Constables (SCs) and Police
Community Support Officers (PCSOs).
SCs are sworn officers, whereas PCSOs are not.
SCs's have the same powers as professional sworn officers, but carry out
onerous tasks for no pay. They are good citizens trying to help out
undermanned police services.
Please get your facts straight before you malign good people (not to say
that PCSOs are bad people).
I am an ex-SC and also an ex-sworn officer (Constable) and finally an
ex-Warrant Officer (Air Force). So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Martin Brown

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Dec 9, 2009, 4:41:32 AM12/9/09
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Mahatma Vindaloo wrote:
> "RichA" <rande...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:544f07c4-dc11-4e30...@m3g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>> How could they not? You f--- with the rights of enough innocent
>> people, you are bound to catch at least one terrorist in the process.
>> Unless you defy the law of averages.
>> P.S. I think the creation of "special constables" is a nice idea.
>> Integrating the retarded into society and all. Maybe they could
>> rename them, "special needs constables?"
>>
>> http://www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/
>
> You are getting confused between Special Constables (SCs) and Police
> Community Support Officers (PCSOs).
> SCs are sworn officers, whereas PCSOs are not.
> SCs's have the same powers as professional sworn officers, but carry out
> onerous tasks for no pay. They are good citizens trying to help out
> undermanned police services.
> Please get your facts straight before you malign good people (not to say
> that PCSOs are bad people).

Worth noting here that RichA is a demented whinging righttard troll with
absolutely no clue about policing in the UK or anything else for that
matter.

We have had some risk of being stopped for taking pictures that could be
of use to terrorists since the 1970's IRA bombing campaigns. One set of
my photos were taken on location exactly 24 hours before a major IRA
bomb attack in Manchester. Unfortunately they didn't show anything
useful to the police. I expect to get challenged when taking certain
types of architectural pictures of potentially high profile targets.

Whenever I have been stopped the police have always been civil and it
was a professional encounter. Same goes for airport security. I am not
convinced that an encounter with the clueless wannabees that are now
PCSOs would go so well but so far the situation has not arisen for me.

There was incidentally a recent report of a negative interaction between
a former police officer who wanted to photograph the blue light above
the door of the old style police station where he once worked and two
PCSOs who prevented him. Reported in the Independent end of the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/police-uturn-on-photographers-and-antiterror-laws-1834626.html

ACPO have been forced to rein in their PCSOs overzealous behaviour.
If you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

Regards,
Martin Brown

Bristolian

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Dec 10, 2009, 6:55:41 PM12/10/09
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I object to your postscript above and the inference that people with
special needs are, by definition, retarded. This is far from the truth
but if we have to discuss the merits of integrating the retarded into
society, well they let you in, didn't they?

--
Regards


Bristolian

Paul Heslop

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Dec 11, 2009, 2:49:13 AM12/11/09
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oh well played sir!

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