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Lawrence Akutagawa

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Mar 17, 2009, 1:04:52 PM3/17/09
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Thanks for the heads up. I was not aware that Harman acquired Kentmere.
Too bad about that Art line of papers - that was the paper recommended for
bromoil. And Harman also owns Ilford. hmmm...I see some kind of
consolidation in papers down the road.


Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Mar 17, 2009, 1:23:37 PM3/17/09
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Lawrence Akutagawa wrote:

> Thanks for the heads up. I was not aware that Harman acquired Kentmere.
> Too bad about that Art line of papers - that was the paper recommended for
> bromoil. And Harman also owns Ilford. hmmm...I see some kind of
> consolidation in papers down the road.

It depends upon how you look at it. Harman was, according to the marketing
propaganda, the original name of Ilford. Or Ilford was the place, Harman
was the person.

Ilford decided to get out of the black and white and chemical photography
business by "spinning off" as Harman. Financially it makes a lot of sense,
Ilford can go on with it's other product lines and digital photographic
products, Harman becomes a botique producer of film.

In order to succeed Harman will have to charge more for its products and
market them differently. As a separate company they can do that.

Harmans purchase of Kentmere is IMHO a good thing. Yes the product lines
will contract, but there will be more variety with one company than with
two with a large overlap.

Geoff.

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Richard Knoppow

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Mar 19, 2009, 2:11:01 PM3/19/09
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"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote in message
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My impression is that Harmon is an investment company.
In any case part of the merger with Kentmere is the loss of
the last brand of printing out paper on the market.
Kentmere's POP was marketed in the USA as Centenial POP.
According to Ilford they can't make the stuff after moving
the Kentmere line to Ilford. Kentmere sold paper under its
own name but also made a lot of stuff on a custom basis for
places like Freestyle. AFAIK Kentmere has either never made
film or hasn't made it for a very long time.
BTW, Ilford is a fairly large city in England and the
company is named after it. I don't think Ilford photo
products was ever called Harmon.


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Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Mar 19, 2009, 3:18:34 PM3/19/09
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Richard Knoppow wrote:
> BTW, Ilford is a fairly large city in England and the
> company is named after it. I don't think Ilford photo
> products was ever called Harmon.

From: http://www.ilfordphoto.com/home.asp

"ILFORD PHOTO has experienced a tumultuous history since its origins in
1879, with ownership of the company changing hands several times. The
latest development was the acquisition in February 2005 of its
black-and-white photographic business, premises and ILFORD PHOTO name
from the receivers of the old ILFORD Imaging group by HARMAN technology
Limited, a company created by former managers of the company and named
after the founder of the ILFORD business, Alfred Harman."


According to: http://www.ilford.org.uk/history.php

Ilford (the place) is part of London since 1965.

Richard Knoppow

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Mar 20, 2009, 4:00:39 AM3/20/09
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"Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <g...@mendelson.com> wrote in message
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I may have mis-read your original post. Did Harman call
his company Harman or Ilford at first?

Geoffrey S. Mendelson

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Mar 21, 2009, 5:10:06 PM3/21/09
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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
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> It depends upon how you look at it. Harman was, according to the marketing
> propaganda, the original name of Ilford. Or Ilford was the place, Harman
> was the person.

I was sort of wrong, I found a site with the history of Ilford:

http://www.photomemorabilia.co.uk/Ilford/Chronology.html

In 1879, Alfred Hugh Harman begins making Gelatine Dry Plates in the
basement of his house in Cranbrook Road, Ilford, Essex. His business was
named 'Britannia Works'.


So Ilford was the place, Harman was the person and Britannia Works was
the company.

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