Kodak Color Processor Model 11 chemistry volume
Robert Meyer
manual. Could anyone tell me how much chemistry is required?
Hemi4268
The model 11 takes 8 oz of chemistry. You can get away with as little as 5 oz.
These things are a little hard to use and waste lots of chemistry vs a
replenishment system which uses less then 1/4 oz of chemistry per 8x10. You
can put two 8x10's on the machine by cutting 16x20 paper in half to 10x16.
This machine was great when developer times were in the 7 minute range. Now
that they are under 45 seconds you will have to work quick.
Larry
Mike King
ingenuity and if you work at a lower temperature you can extend the
processing times somewhat.
Bertram Miller mentioned his Model 11 several times in the color articles he
did for Darkroom & Creative Camera Techniques and it's predecessor.
Bob Nadler's Color Print Manual (1978) has several pages on the care and
feeding of this unit and suggests that 4 oz. of chemistry is adequate for
EP-2, 7 oz. for EP-500 reversal. So I'd start with 4 oz of RA-4 chemistry.
He's got a lot of good stuff in his book about older equipment so I
recommend it.
It's different from any other piece of processing equipment you'll ever run
into so I recommend making many dry (and wet) runs before committing to a
run in the dark.
I haven't used one in many years but it's still capable of turning our
excellent work.
--
darkroommike
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ArtKramr
>From: "Robert Meyer" rme...@rochester.rr.com
>Date: 3/2/03 4:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <Hjx8a.2935$cE4....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
>
>I recently brought a Kodak Model 11 Color Processor, but it didn't have a
>manual. Could anyone tell me how much chemistry is required?
4 ounces.
Arthur Kramer
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
Jazztptman
you're planning on, but if it's RA-4, check out Kodak's web site for Pub J-39.
it tells how to do small tank, tray, and tube with RA-4 and includes
recommendations specific to the old Model 11.
Bernie
Bert Miller
Yes, indeed!
I (Bertram W. MIller) have used the Kodak Rapid Processor 11 from the
time I bought it new in early 1960s until just recently when my
infirmities cancelled my darkroom work entirely. I used it for 8x10,
11x14 and 12x16 (Agfa). Working in the dark presented no problem. I
had identified the essential places on the processor with
phosphorescent tape dots (1/4" punched out) and the bottles of
chemistry with similar dots--one dot=developer, two dots=short stop,
three dots for bleach/fix. The important thing was to develop a work
system so that processing became semi-automatic in the dark. This, of
course, included having the chemistries lined up and within ready
reach. I used a wall-mounted timer with phosphorescent numbers. The
timings included a five second drain time following each step. Wash
time was included in the calculated sequence. The light emitted by
the timer had absolutely no effect on fogging the paper!
The Kodak instructions about placing the paper on the drum were faulty
to the point of misery. I found the following to be foolproof.
Before starting fill the processor tippable tray with tap water.
Alongside the processor, to its right, place a 11x14 tray filled with
tapwater at room temperature. Place the nylon net blanket in the tray
with its s.s. bar across the far end of the tray. The procedure then:
turn out the darkroom lights--no safelight! Place the exposed sheet
of paper face up on the blanket in the water. Turn on the processor
to cause its drum to revolve. Use both thumbs and index fingers to
hold the far end of the paper against the s.s. bar. Raise the bar and
paper together and drape them on the moving drum. Fix the bar into
the slots provided on the machine. The blanket then holds the wet
paper against the wet moving drum. Tip the tray to empty it of water
and simultaneously add the developer and start the timer.
For forty years I used 4 oz. infant formula bottles obtained from a
hospital newborn nursery to hold the chemisties. I used only 2 oz. of
each chemistry per print, regardless of print size, and never, never
found the need for more, up to and including the present rapid access
processing.
After retiring to Mexico in 1969 I became anxious to print 16x20s. I
chanced upon a used Kodak Rapid Processor 16K in the U.S. which was
transported to me by a friend. I followed the same technique with the
16K as I did with the 11.
The difference was that the presoak tray was 16x20 inches. The 16K
can also be carefully used for 20x24 inch prints with the loss of only
1/8 inch along one border. This processor needs 8 oz. of each
chemistry.
All the darkroom work, after my retirement, which led to the
development of the MILLER METHOD III (C) computerized color printing
balancing method, was done on the Kodak Rapid Processor 11. The final
three minute rinse/wash at the end of the process leaves the processor
clean and ready for the next print. That is a lot more convenient than
having to dry tubes before inserting the next printed sheet of paper.
It makes working in the dark trivial.
Bert Miller
ArtKramr
>From: bertm...@prodigy.net.mx (Bert Miller)
>Date: 3/8/03 8:36 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <8f380f18.0303...@posting.google.com>
Hi Bert. Hope all is well with you. Nice to hear from you again. You might find
my website interesting.
Regards,
Bert Miller
> >Subject: Re: Kodak Color Processor Model 11 chemistry volume
> >From: bertm...@prodigy.net.mx (Bert Miller)
> >Date: 3/8/03 8:36 AM Pacific Standard Time
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> >> >Subject: Kodak Color Processor Model 11 chemistry volume
> >> >From: "Robert Meyer" rme...@rochester.rr.com
> >> >Date: 3/2/03 4:27 PM Pacific Standard Time
> >> >Message-id: <Hjx8a.2935$cE4....@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
> >> >
> >> >I recently brought a Kodak Model 11 Color Processor, but it didn't have a
> >> >manual. Could anyone tell me how much chemistry is required?
> >>
> >>
> >> 4 ounces.
> >>
> >> Arthur Kramer
> >> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> >> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
> >
> >
>
> Hi Bert. Hope all is well with you. Nice to hear from you again. You might find
> my website interesting.
>
> Regards,
>
> Arthur Kramer
> Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
> http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer
Hello, Art,
I looked up your WW II website a while back. My own WW II experience
was purely SW Pacific leading to Japan itself. My surviving photos of
my journey are all in color. I used Kodachrome in my model D Leica,
and in the 1980s made internegs from the chromes. The prints are
terrific! It's remarkable how the chrome dyes persisted. I remember
Jesse bringing you to my house in Flushing a long time ago.
At eighty-seven it's not possible for all to be well, but I am
surviving. The incapacitions limit me quite severely
Thanks for the regards and I hope you're in better shape than I.
Bert