question to phtographers
Cherry Blossom
but i don't see my message only in this group
anyway,,i would like to know what people think about attending a 4
year art college to learn photography?
as oppossed to photojounalism courses or just learning on the job?
thank you
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I am a fine art student majoring in photography, and looking forward to
graduating this year, so maybe I can answer your question. It really
depends on what your goals as a photographer are. Do you want to be A
Fine Art Photographer? Or a Photojournalist, or a portrait photographer,
or a commercial (advertising, industrial) photographer? Or a teacher?
If you want to be a Fine Artist, or an Art teacher (I am going to be a
university professor, but I must get my Masters degree for that) then
Art school is definately the way to go. Art school will teach you
almost nothing that is relavent to journalism, although much of it can
be used by the commercial photographer. If you want to be a journalist,
then go to a university that has a good Journalism program. The
University of Missouri and Indiana University are both good, especially
Missouri. If you want to be a portrait studio photographer you are best
going to work as an assistant to an established photographer, and join
the Professional Photographers of America. This organization of
portrait photographers has a school for it's members that most good
portrait photographers have taken classes from. If you want to do
commercial photography exclusively, then go to a commercially oriented
photography school like the Rochester Institute of Technology or The
Brooks Institute. These places won't teach you much about Art, so they
are not the place to go if you have much desire to produce works of art
for museum and gallery exhibition. If you want to be mostly an artist,
but you want to do commercial work to make a living, then you should try
to find an art program that offers some commercial oriented classes as
well as art classes. Hope this helps, E-mail me if you have any
questions.
Christopher David Crawford
Artist, working in the medium of Photography
Represented by The Fort Wayne Museum of Art
Fort Wayne, IN
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Cherry Blossom
>depends on what your goals as a photographer are. Do you want to be A
>Fine Art Photographer? Or a Photojournalist, or a portrait photographer,
>or a commercial (advertising, industrial) photographer? Or a teacher?
thank you very much for answering my questions..;)
i like documentational photography,wildlife,underwater
basically everything in national geographic..but i don't like the idea
of being a journalist..i hate writting
i just want to take those kinds of meaningful pictures.
Cherry Blossom
wrote:
>It really depends on what kind of photography you'd like to do, and
>also if you plan to go into business for yourself (run your own
>studio, shoot stock photos, etc).
thank you for your response i
appreciate this very much
cherry blossom
Jimfinkle1
Institute of Photography, Turners Falls, Mass.
They have compressed what they can into the one year: Portrait, Commercial,
Business, and general, well rounded courses to get you started in photography.
Plus you could use the money you didn't spend on the other three years
toward you business/career.
(JIM)
Cherry Blossom
>An alternative to a four year B.A. program would be a one year one. Hallmark
>Institute of Photography, Turners Falls, Mass.
i have never heard of this..well looking into
thank you very much
Jimfinkle1
Usually 80-100 students, due to tough program
10-20% dropout rate.
Be ready to work hard.
In business since 1975/6
Large facilities
Housing is with network of rentals in and around town
I haven't found their E-mail address yet
Hope this helps
Let me know
(JIM)
Ron K
responses. If you want a career in photography - try your hardest to get
into a studio working for nothing or little or nothing - you will learn
more working in a studio for a week than you will in a year of school. I
was working in a studio (for nothing - which beats paying for school) and
was paying for college as well. I dropped out of College after 1 semester.
Since it was so basic and pertained to things that was geared more for the
hobby level photographer rather than the pro. I spent 2 years with one
studio, worked for one year for nothing, 2nd year for 3.00 an hour (in the
70s) left and went to another studio which gladly hired me after 2 years of
on the job training... at 5.00 per hour (78 - 79) in 80 I started my own
studio. I now work 4 months a year at 300k gross. The other 8 months I
vacation and play. I know of two guys that went to college for photography
instead, I worked with both of them. Neither one is a photographer today.
Jimfinkle1 wrote in message <19990204063438...@ng30.aol.com>...
>An alternative to a four year B.A. program would be a one year one.
Hallmark
>Institute of Photography, Turners Falls, Mass.
Cherry Blossom
wrote:
>I didn't see the original post - but I can assume what was asked by the
>responses. If you want a career in photography - try your hardest to get
>into a studio working for nothing or little or nothing - you will learn
>more working in a studio for a week than you will in a year of school. I
thank you for your input,i appreciate it very much.
Jimfinkle1
one week in a studio vs. one year in school.
But, I agree that one year in a studio would
be better than school if it was a good studio.
(JMI)
Cherry Blossom
>I think this person is very wrong about the
>one week in a studio vs. one year in school.
yes..i would not think one week ANYWHERE would teach you more than a
year in school..;)
Moreno Polloni
>I think this person is very wrong about the
>one week in a studio vs. one year in school.
>be better than school if it was a good studio.
The gist of what he was saying is that you'll learn much faster working for a
studio that you would in school. And the practical experience you get in a
studio is not something that is taught in school.
Jimfinkle1
(JIM)
cd_cr...@hotmail.com
cherryber...@altavista.net (Cherry Blossom) wrote:
> On 5 Feb 1999 12:14:20 GMT, jimfi...@aol.com (Jimfinkle1) wrote:
>
> >one week in a studio vs. one year in school.
>
> year in school..;)
>
> remove "BERRY" to e-mail me
>
Some of the people here have a rather strong prejudice against formal
education in general, and teachers in particular. There have been many
threads in the past where teachers were ridiculed as people who have no real
skills, so they teach. I disagree with this. It's true, I've had some
teachers who were worthless, but most have been knowledgeable about thier
subject. If it weren't for the dedication and caring my high school art
teacher, I would not have made a career of art. And if it were not for my
university photography instructor, I would not have achieved what I have as
an artist. Go to school and get a degree. You will learn a lot, and the
degree WILL make a difference in how much money you can make and what job you
can get. I know many of the older members of the group will have stories of
how they have achieved success without schooling, but that is not going to
happen to us young people. The world has changed. My dad has no college
education, and he is a well paid manager with GTE (30 years service). But
he told me himself that he has only gotten where he is because of his long
service. The company does not hire people without degrees any more.
Photography is no different. You can do well if you have your own business,
but you risk a lot financially for many years to get established. So get a
degree, then work as an assistant while you are in school, the experiance
from work and school will give you a complete background to find a job.
Christopher David Crawford
Artist, working in the medium of Photography
Fort Wayne, IN
Cherry Blossom
>Some of the people here have a rather strong prejudice against formal
>education in general, and teachers in particular. There have been many
>threads in the past where teachers were ridiculed as people who have no real
thank you for your time,it is well appreciated..i have received soooo
many responces from this post..i thank everyone.
i am started to sway towards going to art college for 4 years<actually
3..i have my foundation in art and design already>
thank you once again
cherry blossom