Durst enlarger, anyone have info on this
Matthew Pieklik
a friend just gave me a Durst M600 enlarger that she knows nothing
about. I was wondering, is it just a b&w enlarger, or can you get
filters for it to do color? I currently have an older b&w enlarger that
works well, and if this newer one can do color I will keep it. Any info
you might have on its capabilities or quality would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Matt
RWatson767
Matt
>Durst enlarger, anyone have info on this
The probl;em with Durast enlargers is the lack of parts andc accessories. They
are a good enlarger but unless you get everything it will sit. I gather all the
things I can for them and when I have a complete one I sell it. That way the
customer is satisfied.
Bob AZ
KHOwen
>Subject: Durst enlarger, anyone have info on this
>From: Matthew Pieklik <mdpi...@lbl.gov>
>Date: Tue, Sep 29, 1998 12:22 EDT
>Message-id: <3611093E...@lbl.gov>
I work for Jobo USA, the new distributor for Durst in the USA, so please
consider my comments accordingly.
The Durst M600 was a very popular enlarger back in the 1960's. It was also
discontinued by some time in the 1970's as I recall, so parts are no longer
available from Durst for this unit. As another respondant already indicated,
If it does not already have all the parts it needs, it will probably take quite
a while to locate them through sources of used equipment.
Jobo just signed a contract with Durst at Photokina a couple weeks ago. It
will take 2-3 months before we can really have all the current products in
stock and available for shipping. If you have questions regarding Durst,
please bear with us. We have just started, and it will take us a little while
to build up the training and knowledge to assist you properly. However, we
fully intend to maintain a thorough inventory of Durst parts for current
products, and to provide the level of customer support for which we have become
known for all products distributed by Jobo Fototechnic (USA).
Ken -- Jobo USA
ke...@jobo-usa.com
Jobo web site: http://www.jobo-usa.com
Blady9
Hi, Ken:
I have a Durst M-601, and correspondence with Durst in Italy disclosed that
there are no parts available for that model either.
I think it is very strange that Durst would not stock parts for previous
models, since previous models are the ones parts are needed for. Suppose the
automobile manufacturers of the world only supplied parts for current models?
Does that make any sense?
Since Jobo is now representing Durst in the U.S., I think you should reason
with someone of intelligence in the Durst headquarters regarding this problem.
I would never purchase a piece of equipment of any kind if I knew before hand
that parts would not be available for it in the future, and this must have at
least some effect on the sale of new Durst equipment. This policy, to be blunt,
is pretty stupid.
Thanks,
Bill Lady
>
>The Durst M600 was a very popular enlarger back in the 1960's. It was also
>discontinued by some time in the 1970's as I recall, so parts are no longer
>available from Durst for this unit. As another respondant already indicated,
>If it does not already have all the parts it needs, it will probably take
>quite
>a while to locate them through sources of used equipment.
>
>Jobo just signed a contract with Durst at Photokina a couple weeks ago. It
>will take 2-3 months before we can really have all the current products in
>stock and available for shipping. If you have questions regarding Durst,
>please bear with us. We have just started, and it will take us a little
>while
>to build up the training and knowledge to assist you properly. However, we
>fully intend to maintain a thorough inventory of Durst parts for current
>products, and to provide the level of customer support for which we have
>become
>known for all products distributed by Jobo Fototechnic (USA).
>
>
>
>Ken -- Jobo USA
>ke...@jobo-usa.com
>Jobo web site: http://www.jobo-usa.com
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Charles Babington
> >From: Matthew Pieklik <mdpi...@lbl.gov>
> >Date: Tue, Sep 29, 1998 12:22 EDT
> >Message-id: <3611093E...@lbl.gov>
> >
> >Hello,
> >a friend just gave me a Durst M600 enlarger that she knows nothing
> >about. I was wondering, is it just a b&w enlarger, or can you get
> >filters for it to do color? I currently have an older b&w enlarger that
> >works well, and if this newer one can do color I will keep it. Any info
> >you might have on its capabilities or quality would be appreciated.
> >
I had a Durst M600 enlarger from the late 60s to the mid-70s. I only
did B&W with it, but as I recall there was a filter drawer that took
square filters about 2.5 inches square. I had a set from Durst that
were for variable contrast B&W paper, but there's no reason why you
couldn't put color correcting filters in as well. You probably would
have to cut them to the proper size.
OTOH, if you're looking for a color head, I don't recall that that was
an option on the unit when I bought mine, although it may have been made
available later.
As I recall, it was a nice, solid machine. I only got rid of it when I
wanted to do 4x5 as well, and had a chance to pick up a 4x5 Beseler that
would also do the smaller negs.
Cheers,
Kip Babington
winddancing
customer service any user gets addicted to the quality. Unfortunately, they
are durable! So parts for earlier models are in demand. I strongly urge
novices to only buy complete, COMPLETE, units because even if the enlarger
costs you next to nothing you can spend years searching and more $ for a
part than you paid for the enlarger itself. (from a long term user and
owner of many larger Durst models).
JBlance696
This is very sound advice and my sentiments also. I am only now just starting
to wear out some of the parts on Durst Laborators that are 15 years old The
older 5x7(138) and 8x10(184) Laborators were, IMO, some of the most incredibly
well built pieces of darkroom eqipment put on this planet, due, no doubt to
being built to military/industrial specs BUT...it's a real pisser to own a
10,000$ enlarger and not be able to replace a 3$ clip in the negative carrier.
Personally, I place little value in the fact that Durst will supply parts
for current models. This is not saying very much considering that you would
have to take one of these enlargers and beat it to death before it would ever
need them.
Jon Blance-(long time Durst user and " current owner" of every freestanding
Durst Laborator manufactured: 138-S, SM183, G139, L184 )
JBlan...@aol.com
Dallas Tx
KHOwen
>Subject: Re: Durst enlarger, anyone have info on this
>From: bla...@aol.com (Blady9)
>Date: Fri, Oct 2, 1998 10:16 EDT
>Message-id: <19981002101651...@ng-cr1.aol.com>
>
>
>Hi, Ken:
>
>I have a Durst M-601, and correspondence with Durst in Italy disclosed that
>there are no parts available for that model either.
>
>I think it is very strange that Durst would not stock parts for previous
>models, since previous models are the ones parts are needed for. Suppose the
>automobile manufacturers of the world only supplied parts for current models?
>Does that make any sense?
>
>Since Jobo is now representing Durst in the U.S., I think you should reason
>with someone of intelligence in the Durst headquarters regarding this
>problem.
>I would never purchase a piece of equipment of any kind if I knew before hand
>that parts would not be available for it in the future, and this must have at
>least some effect on the sale of new Durst equipment. This policy, to be
>blunt,
>is pretty stupid.
>
>Thanks,
>Bill Lady
Due to the number of similar comments I have already received on this topic, I
will approach them on this topic of past model parts availability. However,
by your own example of the automobile industry, I think you'll find, parts for
old models are NOT available from the manufacturers themselves. I believe the
standard applied by most industries is either 5 or 7 years of parts support
after discontinuing a product. Within those guidelines I suspect Durst will
also supply "past" parts. But since we are newly appointed by Durst, this is
one of those details we have yet to learn for certain.
Rest assured, that Jobo Fototechnic will be making every possible effort to
support our customers. But please allow us a few months to get this new line
up and running, and for us to achieve enough knowledge to represent them
properly.
RWatson767
Bill
You can rest assurrerd that most enlarger manufactureres fall into the
category you describe.
Bob AZ
RWatson767
Ken
I have been a dealer in used computers and the associated repair and
maintenance for over 20 years. If you can bring some semblance of order and
Durst support to their many enlargers it will be appreciated. Good luck. Durst
is no JOBO.
Bob AZ