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pobo...@ix.netcom.com

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Dec 1, 2002, 4:17:55 AM12/1/02
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Woman Killed Aiding Stricken Puppy
Victim Hit by Car Moments After Running Into Street to Help
Injured Pet

By Colleen Jenkins
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, December 1, 2002; Page C08

Bronx, a German shepherd-pit bull mix,
came off the streets and into Luz Marina
Acuña's home just seven months ago, a
stray rescued by her adult daughter,
Wendy Acuña.

The brown and black puppy was a
present for Luz Acuña's son, John
Guttierez, 14, but the Nicaraguan native
and longtime Montgomery County
resident loved the dog as her own and
walked him every night.

That's what she and John were doing
Friday night before Bronx got away.
When the dog ran into Bel Pre Road and
was hit by a car, Acuña, 48, dashed after
him. Within seconds, she was struck by
a Buick Century.

In a matter of moments, John saw his
mother and his dog die.
=========================
Story at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A58542-2002Nov30.html

Jeff Harper

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Dec 1, 2002, 10:12:42 AM12/1/02
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Perhaps if we take this as a reminder to drive cautiously and to continue to
educate dog owners on the danger of allowing a dog off-leash near traffic,
the influence will *save* the lives of other people and dogs.

Jeff

Jeff Harper
jeff#doplay.com


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SoCalAirshowNews

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Dec 13, 2002, 1:41:55 AM12/13/02
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Thats why ya dont run out into the street!!! DUH!!

Roy. Just Roy.

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Dec 13, 2002, 11:23:19 AM12/13/02
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socalair...@aol.com (SoCalAirshowNews) wrote in message news:<20021213014155...@mb-cm.aol.com>...

> Thats why ya dont run out into the street!!! DUH!!

Your message was dated 12/12. The original was dated 12/1. It took you
12 days to think up this little gem?

Dayum, with blinding speed like that, I'd better not say anything
more. After all, you'll probably need the much of the rest of the day
to tie your shoes, and I would hate to distract you.

Rereading the article, one thing did catch my eye though:

"As she stood over the stricken dog, a car driven by Mayufe Kimberly
Changwe, 17, of the 3000 block of Bel Pre Road, struck and killed her,
police said."

In other words, it wasn't the grief stricken mother at fault, it was
yet another effing know-it-all teenager driving mommy's car without
the slightest clue as to how to handle it in an emergency.

The little sprog was probably driving at 20+ mph over the limit,
gabbing on the cell phone while she changed CDs on the stereo.

The FIRST thing I was taught in driver's ed is that you do ANYTHING
necessary to avoid hitting pedestrians. Swerve, spin it, flip the car
over, put it into a damn light pole, but you do NOT just slam on your
brakes and pray that you'll stop in time.

Ronald Mason

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Dec 15, 2002, 6:58:10 PM12/15/02
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"Roy. Just Roy." wrote:
>
>
> In other words, it wasn't the grief stricken mother at fault, it was
> yet another effing know-it-all teenager driving mommy's car without
> the slightest clue as to how to handle it in an emergency.
>
> The little sprog was probably driving at 20+ mph over the limit,
> gabbing on the cell phone while she changed CDs on the stereo.
>
> The FIRST thing I was taught in driver's ed is that you do ANYTHING
> necessary to avoid hitting pedestrians. Swerve, spin it, flip the car
> over, put it into a damn light pole, but you do NOT just slam on your
> brakes and pray that you'll stop in time.

I'm not "rolling" my car to avoid anything! I could be killed.
There is trend in the DC area for pedestrians to run across
lanes of traffic. This is almost suicide! Why should I "roll"
my car to avoid some idiot who makes irrational decisions?

Ron

Another example:
=================

Infant, Man Fatally Struck
4 Other Pedestrians Hurt in Md. Incidents

By Clarence Williams
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, December 13, 2002; Page B10

An infant was killed and a 2-year-old boy and two women were
seriously injured last night when they were struck by a car as
they tried to cross a busy street near a Prince George's County
shopping center, authorities said. They were among at least six
pedestrians who were struck yesterday in Prince George's and
Montgomery counties, two of them fatally.

Shopping packages and purses lay scattered across New Hampshire
Avenue just after the 7 p.m. accident on New Hampshire Avenue
near Langley Park Shopping Center. The women, ages 24 and 30,
and the toddler were struck soon after they stepped off the
curb, officials said. They were not in a crosswalk.

The infant, whose sex was not immediately known by a police
spokeswoman, died before reaching a hospital. The toddler
was listed in fair condition last night at Children's Hospital.
The women were in serious condition at Washington Hospital
Center.

The driver stopped, and the preliminary police investigation
indicated that pedestrian error caused the accident, said
Officer Debbi Sabel, a county police spokeswoman. The names of
the pedestrians were not immediately available.

About 8 p.m., an unidentified man was fatally struck as he
tried to cross the 7700 block of Landover Road in Prince
George's, authorities said.

About 2 p.m., a 25-year-old Germantown woman was was struck
by a 1995 Pontiac Sunfire as she walked across Great Seneca
Highway at Dairymaid Drive in Germantown, Montgomery County
police said. The victim was flown to Maryland Shock Trauma
Center, where she was in critical condition last night.

Neither the man nor the woman had been in a crosswalk.
-----------------------------------------------------
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48752-2002Dec13.html

Ricardo

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Dec 15, 2002, 9:07:46 PM12/15/02
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On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 18:58:10 -0500, Ronald Mason
<ronm...@nospam.com> wrote:

>I'm not "rolling" my car to avoid anything! I could be killed.
>There is trend in the DC area for pedestrians to run across
>lanes of traffic. This is almost suicide! Why should I "roll"
>my car to avoid some idiot who makes irrational decisions?

Totally agree. I will hit the horn and brake for a pedestrian, and
yes, even try to avoid them if it is safe to do so (i.e. use due
care to avoid hitting them), BUT will NEVER risk my own butt in an
attempt to save suicidal punks who shouldn't even be there anyway
(as far as jaywalkers are concerned). Jaywalking ain't a crime for
nothing.

--
ricardo, ex-euroslav
vancouver bc canada
e-mail: sovietjamaicanguy <at> yahoo <dot> ca
for liability purposes: I *always* obey the law.

Unknown

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Dec 15, 2002, 9:38:19 PM12/15/02
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On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 18:58:10 -0500, Ronald Mason <ronm...@nospam.com>
wrote:


>


>I'm not "rolling" my car to avoid anything! I could be killed.
>There is trend in the DC area for pedestrians to run across
>lanes of traffic. This is almost suicide! Why should I "roll"
>my car to avoid some idiot who makes irrational decisions?
>

That's what i say. I can't believe some of the stupid jaywalkers in
this world. Some of them will cross right in front of you daring you
to hit them.


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Hank Zimmerman

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Dec 16, 2002, 1:17:24 AM12/16/02
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In article <9ueqvu48oii4fdns1...@4ax.com>,
Pride of America wrote:

>That's what i say. I can't believe some of the stupid jaywalkers in
>this world. Some of them will cross right in front of you daring you
>to hit them.

I would add the comment, as a frequent pedestrian, "I cannot belive some
of the stupid drivers in this world. Some of them will speed into a
crosswalk, daring you walk in front of them."

Of course, they are acting illegally when they do so (no jaywalking, I
have the right of way unless they have a green light)
--
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It can be found at <http://www.vampy-alumni.org/eudora/faqs/>
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(c) 2002 Hank Zimmerman

Raneman-GR

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Dec 16, 2002, 3:36:12 AM12/16/02
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Hank Zimmerman wrote:
>
> In article <9ueqvu48oii4fdns1...@4ax.com>,
> Pride of America wrote:
>
> >That's what i say. I can't believe some of the stupid jaywalkers in
> >this world. Some of them will cross right in front of you daring you
> >to hit them.
>
> I would add the comment, as a frequent pedestrian, "I cannot belive some
> of the stupid drivers in this world. Some of them will speed into a
> crosswalk, daring you walk in front of them."
>
> Of course, they are acting illegally when they do so (no jaywalking, I
> have the right of way unless they have a green light)


The discussion is about jaywalking, i.e. pedestrian not crossing in
a pedestrian crossing zone or at a light or stop sign.

Gordon

Nathan Nagel

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Dec 16, 2002, 5:45:37 AM12/16/02
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Ricardo wrote:
>
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 18:58:10 -0500, Ronald Mason
> <ronm...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm not "rolling" my car to avoid anything! I could be killed.
> >There is trend in the DC area for pedestrians to run across
> >lanes of traffic. This is almost suicide! Why should I "roll"
> >my car to avoid some idiot who makes irrational decisions?
>
> Totally agree. I will hit the horn and brake for a pedestrian, and
> yes, even try to avoid them if it is safe to do so (i.e. use due
> care to avoid hitting them), BUT will NEVER risk my own butt in an
> attempt to save suicidal punks who shouldn't even be there anyway
> (as far as jaywalkers are concerned). Jaywalking ain't a crime for
> nothing.
>

To the OP: I agree with you but keep in mind that in the DC area there
are several areas where you will probably be found at fault should you
hit a pedestrian, no matter how arrogant they are. Annapolis and
Bethesda jump to mind, as they have mid-block crosswalks everywhere.
Fortunately, the pedestrians in Annapolis still display some common
sense (can't say the same for Bethesda.)

nate

ken...@shangrila.net

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Dec 16, 2002, 9:59:33 AM12/16/02
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Ronald Mason wrote:

>
> I'm not "rolling" my car to avoid anything! I could be killed.
> There is trend in the DC area for pedestrians to run across
> lanes of traffic. This is almost suicide! Why should I "roll"
> my car to avoid some idiot who makes irrational decisions?
>

I cannot believe some of the idiotic responses I've read in this thread.
There seems to be absolutely no sense that any of you drivers has any
responsibility at all. It's those dumb pedestrians. They deserve to die!
Has it occurred to any of you that the thing to do when you're somewhere
there are apt to be pedestrians that you should slow down enough so that
you can stop quickly? "Roll" your car? Are you heading into the first
turn at Indy?

Marc

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Dec 17, 2002, 3:56:26 AM12/17/02
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Where pedestrians can legally or reasonable be expected to be on the
road, I drive as if they are about to jump in front of me. Where it
is illegal and unreasonable for them to be there (i.e. illegally
crossing a freeway or at an intersection I know to be posted with "no
pedestrian crossing" signs), I will drive a reasonable speed. I've
stopped for children running into the street before their parents 5
ft.. from them noticed the dash. But I refuse to kill myself to avoid
some drunk walking in a lane on the freeway.

And yes, more than twice as many pedestrians struck are drunk than the
person that struck them.

Marc
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Ytterbie Bannerjee

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Feb 12, 2003, 12:06:52 AM2/12/03
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>>>>> "Nathan" == Nathan Nagel <njn...@earthlink.net> writes:

Nathan> To the OP: I agree with you but keep in mind that in the
Nathan> DC area there are several areas where you will probably be
Nathan> found at fault should you hit a pedestrian, no matter how
Nathan> arrogant they are. Annapolis and Bethesda jump to mind,
Nathan> as they have mid-block crosswalks everywhere.
Nathan> Fortunately, the pedestrians in Annapolis still display
Nathan> some common sense (can't say the same for Bethesda.)

If there's a crosswalk, it's your duty as a driver to watch out for
pedestrians. If you can't do that, with huge painted lines on the
roadway, you're an incompetent driver and a hazard who doesn't have
control of a potentially lethal implement.

Crosswalks are big indicators that maybe, just maybe, people might be
crossing the street there. Guess what -- it's legal and acceptable to
cross the street in a crosswalk.

It's the pedestrian's job to use common sense, but it is your job as a
driver to watch out for them, and to yield to them when they cross the
street.

cheers.

Nate Nagel

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Feb 12, 2003, 9:20:34 AM2/12/03
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Ytterbie Bannerjee <use...@astrogoth.com> wrote in message news:<ud6lyc...@astrogoth.com>...


Wow, that's an old post that you're responding to... but anyway... my
annoyance at the pedestrians in those areas stems not from the fact
that they desire to cross the street (perfectly understandable) but
from the tendency of said pedestrians to completely bring all traffic
to a continuous halt. In other words, it is literally faster to walk
in some areas rather than drive! If you follow the letter of the law
and yield to all pedestrians in the crosswalk you may very well end up
sitting still for 15 minutes at the same spot. And yet public
transportation sucks... so if you don't live there, better to just
avoid the area altogether. Also they will step right out in front of
you without even looking, regardless of the fact that you're mere feet
away from the crosswalk and there's a half block with no traffic
immediately behind you... god forbid they'd wait .5 seconds, they'd
rather waste half a minute of your time.

I haven't been in Bethesda in two years or more, and I don't miss it
at all.

nate

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Nov 29, 2016, 10:19:40 PM11/29/16
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how about people should just be cautious when driving. 8; other vehicles saw her there was NO reason why this one person didnt. DUH shit i pray nothing such as this happens to someone you love and someone comments " duhh"
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