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Help! I think my iguana is dying!

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herpo

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Mar 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/16/99
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Sorry for the dramatic subject line, but I really do think my iguana
is dying.

He has serveral black spots around his limbs which are flaky and have
deformed looking blackish grey skin underneath. These are not burns
and were present when I bought the lizard.

Now he has watery blisters on his tail and is getting little black
spots on his belly and under his tail. Also he has become noticeably
listless and inanimate.

I think he might have blackening skin syndrome.

Any suggestions would be helpful....

Tammie

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Mar 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/16/99
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Ummm.... how about taking it to a VET!!!!!!

herpo wrote in message <36eede5...@news.mindspring.com>...

Alta Brewer

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Mar 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/16/99
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[This followup was posted to rec.pets.herp and a copy was sent to the
cited author.]

In article <36eede5...@news.mindspring.com>, herpo says...


> Sorry for the dramatic subject line, but I really do think my iguana
> is dying.
>
> He has serveral black spots around his limbs which are flaky and have
> deformed looking blackish grey skin underneath. These are not burns
> and were present when I bought the lizard.
>
> Now he has watery blisters on his tail and is getting little black
> spots on his belly and under his tail. Also he has become noticeably
> listless and inanimate.
>
> I think he might have blackening skin syndrome.
>
> Any suggestions would be helpful....

TAKE HIM TO A HERP VET!!

I'm sorry to yell, but if you think he's dying, then we can't help you.
No one on the net can diagnose and treat an animal we cannot see. If you
don't have a herp vet, Melissa has a list at:

http://www.sonic.net/melissk/society.html

Alta

Deborah

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Mar 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/16/99
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TAKE HIM TO A VET NOW!!

Sorry to yell. If he is noticably listless he needs treatment NOW.
Sounds like a fungal infection though I have never had any experience with
that.
If it is an infection, which it sounds like, he needs medication and you
can't buy it over the counter.
He will dye a slow painfull death if not treated, I'm sure that's not what
you want.

herpo wrote in message <36eede5...@news.mindspring.com>...

herpo

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Mar 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/17/99
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Ouch! I only paid 14.99 for the iguana in the first place.

Oh well, there's a chance he'll fight the infection off I guess.

On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 03:11:09 GMT, "Deborah" <de...@tampabay.rr.com>
wrote:

>It depends on where you live. I'm in Florida and an office visit is $25.
>Antibiotics would be extra.
>There is no over the counter medication that you can treat this with. Based
>on the symptoms you described, the infection is internal and only treatment
>by a Herp Vet along with a perscription and/or a shot, can correct the
>problem.
>If you don't have the money or simply refuse to spend it, contact the local
>humane society. Perhaps there is a local NRA. Do something.

Greg Goodman

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Mar 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/17/99
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YOU MEAN THAT YOU WOULD RATHER LET YOUR PET DIE, THAN TO TREAT IT AT A
VET!!!
Just because you only paid $14.99, for a pet doesn't mean you shouldn't go
out and try to help it.

It sounds like to me you don't even deserve an iguana!! You probably went
out paid $14.99 on a pet not knowing what you were getting into. You pay
that 14.99 then you pay more for the tank, medicine, VET TREATMENT, etc..
That's what it is about keeping it happy so it will live.

If you go out and get a dog from the pound or something, would you let it
die? Just because you got it for practically free doesn't mean you can just
throw that life away.

In my opinion, you shouldn't have even bought it. You should have let
someone else buy it, who will also respect it.


herpo wrote in message <36f0235...@news.mindspring.com>...

ttr...@globalnet.co.uk

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Mar 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/17/99
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On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 21:50:46 GMT, herpo wrote:

>Ouch! I only paid 14.99 for the iguana in the first place.
>
>Oh well, there's a chance he'll fight the infection off I guess.
>

Your attitude is such that I feel extremely sorry for the unfortunate
creature who happens to have you as its owner. You have a legal and
moral responsibility to seek appropriate treatment for this animal now
- without delay. As several others have pointed out to you already.

If you cannot be bothered to do this, then you have zero right to keep
an animal in the first place.

Failure to seek veterinary attention can constitute a criminal offence
of neglect and causing suffering. This animal will die, in pain,
unless you obtain expert help.

When you spent your 14.99 you did not just buy an animal, you took on
some responsibilities towards it. If you are not prepared to meet
those responsibilities, kindly give this animal to someone who is.

Andy C. Highfield
Director, Tortoise Trust

Deborah

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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Your making me sick.
Take the Animal to a local shelter. If they can't help it, at least they
will be HUMANE and end his suffering.
I'm too offended by this comment to say anything else......I really must
think before I post in this case.

herpo wrote in message <36f0235...@news.mindspring.com>...

>Ouch! I only paid 14.99 for the iguana in the first place.
>
>Oh well, there's a chance he'll fight the infection off I guess.
>

CROC

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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Letting him die is a good idea. Chop his head off with a pair of scissors,
put it in the microwave and stuff it in some piece of bread. It will make a
good lunch (and that will save even more money).
Next time, buy a pet chicken. It will also die because you're too dumb to
raise it but when you will kill it, the sandwich you will make with his body
will be tastier...

Ginni Diaz

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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I've heard of all these topicals. But you want to take him to the vet to make
sure to get the infection under control. You can call any vet office and they
will tell you their fees. Many will also let you pay over time is cash is
tight. Don't wait!

herpo wrote:

> Have you heard of any treatments for fungal infections? I heard of
> using Lotrimin as a topical remedy.
>
> Also, I have heard of iodine/provodine baths.....Anyone had success
> with either of these treatments?
>
> By the way, what's the usual cost for taking an iguana to the vet?


>
> On Tue, 16 Mar 1999 23:41:32 GMT, "Deborah" <de...@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >TAKE HIM TO A VET NOW!!
> >
> >Sorry to yell. If he is noticably listless he needs treatment NOW.
> >Sounds like a fungal infection though I have never had any experience with
> >that.
> >If it is an infection, which it sounds like, he needs medication and you
> >can't buy it over the counter.
> >He will dye a slow painfull death if not treated, I'm sure that's not what
> >you want.
> >

ginni.vcf

Ginni Diaz

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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Oh, my. Not another one. (troll yanking out chain?) Owning a pet is not about the
price you paid for it. I know folks who've spent $30k on a wedding and got
divorced in less than a year. It's about an honest commitment to care for a
creature you've taken on.

If you must, try the topicals while you look for another ig keeper who will do
what's needed to ensure the happy, healthy life of a wonderful animal. By the
way, black spot disease is usually caused by less than diligent cage cleaning.

herpo wrote:

> Ouch! I only paid 14.99 for the iguana in the first place.
>
> Oh well, there's a chance he'll fight the infection off I guess.
>

> On Wed, 17 Mar 1999 03:11:09 GMT, "Deborah" <de...@tampabay.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
> >It depends on where you live. I'm in Florida and an office visit is $25.
> >Antibiotics would be extra.
> >There is no over the counter medication that you can treat this with. Based
> >on the symptoms you described, the infection is internal and only treatment
> >by a Herp Vet along with a perscription and/or a shot, can correct the
> >problem.
> >If you don't have the money or simply refuse to spend it, contact the local
> >humane society. Perhaps there is a local NRA. Do something.
> >

ginni.vcf

diana

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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Jeez, I wonder.... when you were little and you got sick, do you suppose your mom
and dad said, "well he was born free to us, why should we take him to a doctor?
If he dies, we'll just have another one. They're free after all."

YOU ARE A JACKASS!

You made a choice to buy this little iguana. It does not matter if you spent $15
or $1500, you have a moral obligation to care for this animal!!!

If you can not do that, then 1. you do NOT deserve to own a pet 2. you owe it the
respect to put it out of it's misery NOW!!!!!!!! 3. you do NOT have the right to
get any other pets that you refuse to care for properly. 4. You are criminally
neglegent for willful neglect and abuse of that iguana.

Since you won't pay for a vet, take it to the animal shelter and let them put the
poor guy to sleep humanely. However, since they will likely charge you a sign
over fee, that you won't want to pay, please put him to sleep yourself, if a
PAINLESS way. Put him in the freezer and leave him there for at least 24 hrs. It
will kill him quickly and painlessly! In his compromised state, he'll go quickly
and be happier for it.

And do all of us a favor, DON'T get anymore animals!

diana

ttr...@globalnet.co.uk

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:09:06 GMT, diana <jes...@extrodinaire.com>
wrote:

Put him in the freezer and leave him there for at least 24 hrs. It
>will kill him quickly and painlessly! In his compromised state, he'll go quickly
>and be happier for it.
>

I'd just point out that contrary to advice and information often
published here, this is *categorically not* a humane method of
euthanasia for reptiles. There have been several veterinary papers
published on this topic, and there is clear evidence that this method
may cause substantial pain. It is specifically advised against in
current veterinary texts.

Andy Highfield
Tortoise Trust Website
<http://www.tortoisetrust.org>
Tortoise Trust Mailing List <http://www.onelist.subscribe.cgi/tortoisetrust>
Carapace Press books and videos <http://www.vidi-herp.com>

Alta Brewer

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Mar 18, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/18/99
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In article <36f168e9...@news.globalnet.co.uk>,
ttr...@globalnet.co.uk says...

> On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 18:09:06 GMT, diana <jes...@extrodinaire.com>
> wrote:
> Put him in the freezer and leave him there for at least 24 hrs. It
> >will kill him quickly and painlessly! In his compromised state, he'll go quickly
> >and be happier for it.
> >
>
> I'd just point out that contrary to advice and information often
> published here, this is *categorically not* a humane method of
> euthanasia for reptiles. There have been several veterinary papers
> published on this topic, and there is clear evidence that this method
> may cause substantial pain. It is specifically advised against in
> current veterinary texts.

Melissa has an article by herp Stephen Barten on methods of euthanasia at
her site:

http://www.sonic.net/~melissk/euth.html

which also recommends against freezing as a form of euthanasia.

Alta

AngelCalif

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Mar 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/26/99
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Herpo...now that you have managed to piss everyone off let me offer my two
cents....Take your little iglet to a reptile vet...put him on the counter , and
walk away. Please do not ever get a reptile or any animal in the future unless
you know something about them and are willing to cough up the cash it takes to
get them even basic medical care when THEY need it.
Good luck Herpo (please select another screen name too...you're givin us a bad
rep)

Gina, Juana the Iguana & Feo the Stud Dragon of Venice

Thundrhil3

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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TAKE HIM TO THE VETS!!!!

Strange982

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Mar 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/28/99
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this post has been going on for two weeks. is it dead yet?
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