Too many crickets!!
Adam
store is not the way to go), and asked them how
many crickets they fed him when they kept him. They told me 45, so I
purchased 45 crickets and gave them too him. Upon releasing them, what
looked like only a few crickets in the bag became a horde in his vivarium.
Now he's hiding in the corner and not eating the crickets. What can I
do?!?!
frank marini
week?...what your supposed to do is get a seperate container and keep the
crickets (like a 10 gal aquarium), feed the crickets w/ a enrichment
food, and water...then dole out 5 or 8 crickets a day (dusted w/ a
calcium/vitamin powder)....If you provide the lizard a place to get away
from the crickets this might be useful...as well as catching all the
crickets right now, and then trying again
frank
In article <h%_k5.7574$4T.4...@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
"Adam" <swor...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
:>> I went to the pet store where I purchaased my lizard (I know now that a pet
Jeremy Carroll
> Actually, the problem solved itself. My lizard does have a hiding
>place, which he is now in, and the crickets all eventually congregated
>beneath the peice of egg carton they were transported with, so they aren't
>bothering my lizard at all.
Wouldnt someone be smart enough to know how much a lizard eats by the size
of the lizard? 45 crickets and you dumped all of them in there? Sheesh man.
Has he ate any of them?
Lady Kadara
Also, the crickets can overrun and yes, EAT, the lizard! :( Gotta take
the lizard out, then try to catch and place the crickets somewhere else
they can stay. Good Luck! :)
In article <mxmisl-1108...@cleve-34.brokersys.com>,
--
Kadara http://mindwarp.plymouth.edu/~kadara
"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality"
- Jules de Gaultier
Adam
Actually, the problem solved itself. My lizard does have a hiding
place, which he is now in, and the crickets all eventually congregated
beneath the peice of egg carton they were transported with, so they aren't
bothering my lizard at all.
"frank marini" <mxm...@brokersys.com> wrote in message
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Adam
he's a big lizard, and hes plated, and the crickets are more scared of him
than vice versa. He's eaten a few of them. I am going to keep my eye on
the scene for a while though, and take out the congregated crickets as soon
as i figure out where to put them.
"Lady Kadara" <c_la...@oz.plymouth.edu> wrote in message
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>
> Also, the crickets can overrun and yes, EAT, the lizard! :( Gotta take
> the lizard out, then try to catch and place the crickets somewhere else
> they can stay. Good Luck! :)
>
>
> In article <mxmisl-1108...@cleve-34.brokersys.com>,
> frank marini <mxm...@brokersys.com> wrote:
> >WELL then....they feed him 45 circkets a day, and an hour, or a
> >week?...what your supposed to do is get a seperate container and keep the
> >crickets (like a 10 gal aquarium), feed the crickets w/ a enrichment
> >food, and water...then dole out 5 or 8 crickets a day (dusted w/ a
> >calcium/vitamin powder)....If you provide the lizard a place to get away
> >from the crickets this might be useful...as well as catching all the
> >crickets right now, and then trying again
> >frank
> >
> >
> >In article <h%_k5.7574$4T.4...@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> >"Adam" <swor...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> >
> >:>> I went to the pet store where I purchaased my lizard (I know now that
a pet
> >:>> store is not the way to go), and asked them how
> >:>> many crickets they fed him when they kept him. They told me 45, so I
> >:>> purchased 45 crickets and gave them too him. Upon releasing them,
what
> >:>> looked like only a few crickets in the bag became a horde in his
vivarium.
> >:>> Now he's hiding in the corner and not eating the crickets. What can
I
> >:>> do?!?!
>
>
Peter Gavin
regards, Pete.
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Adam
Damn PetSmart.
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Adam
gallon vivarium?
Scott
I buy them at a bait store for about $1 for 50 (this is about a week's
supply). This is MUCH less than a pet store and the crickets seem larger
and more healthy. I place them in a 10G aquarium with pieces of egg carton.
Next a place 2 potatoes sliced in 1/4's to provide food and water. Usually
the crickets survive the full week in the tank that is placed in a dark
outdoor storage room.
Scott
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Ruth Daniel
Iguana Meenie
is that they will eat anything. Normally they will be attracted to the feces
of the animal and eat that. Then the lizard comes along and eats them. Not a
healty senario.
With my bd's i use a separate feeding tank so I know that they cant get at
anything nasty. It works for me.
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Beverly Erlebacher
Adam <swor...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>I managed to remove all but 10-15 crickets. Is this still too many in a 50
>gallon vivarium?
Put a piece of carrot in the vivarium for the crickets to eat until the
lizard eats them. Also provide a piece of carrot or other vegetable and
some grain food to the crickets that you took out. Don't add any more crickets
until the ones in there are all eaten.
Everybody makes mistakes at first. See if you can find a book or some care
sheets about your lizard.
VIN-PCF Wyvern
place, which he is now in, and the crickets all eventually congregated
beneath the peice of egg carton they were transported with, so they aren't
bothering my lizard at all.<<<
oh yeah problem solved until the crickets come out at night hungry and start
chomping down on a sleeping lizard who can't protect himself.
Wyvern
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Lady Kadara
Nod, he has a great defense, but crickets can eat his toes and eyes. :(
Anyway, it is best to house the crickets in a separate container, even a
tupperware one, for obvious feeding convience. :) Good luck!
Oh, and throw in a slice of potato for the crickets to munch on until you
can safely remove them, that way they'll be less inclined to munch on your
lizard's toes! :)
In article
<oP2l5.15059$gW5.9...@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
Adam <swor...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>Well, at first i was worried about him beaing attacked by the crickets, but
>he's a big lizard, and hes plated, and the crickets are more scared of him
>than vice versa. He's eaten a few of them. I am going to keep my eye on
>the scene for a while though, and take out the congregated crickets as soon
>as i figure out where to put them.
>
>
>"Lady Kadara" <c_la...@oz.plymouth.edu> wrote in message
>news:3994b...@news.plymouth.edu...
>>
>> Also, the crickets can overrun and yes, EAT, the lizard! :( Gotta take
>> the lizard out, then try to catch and place the crickets somewhere else
>> they can stay. Good Luck! :)
>>
>>
>> In article <mxmisl-1108...@cleve-34.brokersys.com>,
>> frank marini <mxm...@brokersys.com> wrote:
>> >WELL then....they feed him 45 circkets a day, and an hour, or a
>> >week?...what your supposed to do is get a seperate container and keep the
>> >crickets (like a 10 gal aquarium), feed the crickets w/ a enrichment
>> >food, and water...then dole out 5 or 8 crickets a day (dusted w/ a
>> >calcium/vitamin powder)....If you provide the lizard a place to get away
>> >from the crickets this might be useful...as well as catching all the
>> >crickets right now, and then trying again
>> >frank
>> >
>> >
>> >In article <h%_k5.7574$4T.4...@bgtnsc07-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>> >"Adam" <swor...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >:>> I went to the pet store where I purchaased my lizard (I know now that
>a pet
>> >:>> store is not the way to go), and asked them how
>> >:>> many crickets they fed him when they kept him. They told me 45, so I
>> >:>> purchased 45 crickets and gave them too him. Upon releasing them,
>what
>> >:>> looked like only a few crickets in the bag became a horde in his
>vivarium.
>> >:>> Now he's hiding in the corner and not eating the crickets. What can
>I
>> >:>> do?!?!
>>
>>
Lady Kadara
Heh, I didn't even know that 4"-5 inch crickets existed...
Learn something new every day, eh?
In article <8n39h6$24f$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,
Peter Gavin <pe...@monitor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>I think you misunderstood the guy. He said "4 to 5", you heard "forty five".
>
>regards, Pete.
>
>Adam <swor...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Adam
toss the rest because they began escaping from the bags I put them in. Now
the remaining ones are hiding inside the lizard den, which worries me a bit,
because he sleeps in there every night and he seems to be having trouble
finding them when he wants to eat them. If they bothered him in his sleep,
he'd leave the den, right?
Jake Berkes
so many crix running around is... what if a female finds a nice warm damp spot,
and lays her eggs? Soon your 10 crickets may be gone but there will be
hundreds of nearly microscopic babies running all over your lizard. You'll
have to change out your 55 gallons worth of substrate (ok probably not that
much) when it could have lasted a lot longer. Also, do we know what kind of
lizard this is? I'd think that a soft-skinned gecko would be more at risk than
a monitor or some other tough-skinned lizard, but i may be wrong.
Jake Berkes
1.1 Staffordshire Terrier
1.0 Solomon Island Boa
1.0 Crocodile Gecko
1.2 Israeli Leopard Gecko
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0.1 Hawaiian Scorpion
0.1 Flower Mantis
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Adam
environment. Would this hamper cricket breeding? Wouldn't even a single
pair of crickets be capable of breeding anyway?
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CBriden
buy 500 or more crickets at a time by mailorder, much cheaper than getting
them at pet stores. Keep fresh slices of potato, sweet potato, carrot, etc.
in there for water and finely grind good quality catfood for them to eat.
Leave the egg crate they are packed in for them to hide in and sweep the
dead crickets and waste out occasionally to keep the stink down. Use a
screen top, or if the box is really deep you don't need a lid, which is
better as moisture tends to build up, which makes them stink.
Of course you don't need all this for one lizard, but you can do it on a
smaller scale with those plastic boxes with plastic screen lids with little
doors in the tops that they sell at pet stores. Those little doors are
really handy for getting crickets out without them jumping all over the
house. I usually dump crickets out of the eggcrates into the little box to
feed them.
Oh and keep them in the garage because those little devils sing really loud
when there are that many of them.
Cindy
Jeremy Carroll
>Oh and keep them in the garage because those little devils sing really loud
>when there are that many of them.
Oh yeah and never leave your bookbag opened either. One time at school last
year I reached down and grabbed a pencil and by dumb luck the one I pulled
out had a large cricket attached to the eraser looking at me. It jumped off
and no way in hell was I going to chase it during a final so I let it run
under the teacher's desk.
Adam
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> I bought a deep rubbermaid-type box at Target about 2' X 18" or so, and I
> buy 500 or more crickets at a time by mailorder, much cheaper than getting
> them at pet stores. Keep fresh slices of potato, sweet potato, carrot,
etc.
> in there for water and finely grind good quality catfood for them to eat.
> Leave the egg crate they are packed in for them to hide in and sweep the
> dead crickets and waste out occasionally to keep the stink down. Use a
> screen top, or if the box is really deep you don't need a lid, which is
> better as moisture tends to build up, which makes them stink.
> Of course you don't need all this for one lizard, but you can do it on a
> smaller scale with those plastic boxes with plastic screen lids with
little
> doors in the tops that they sell at pet stores. Those little doors are
> really handy for getting crickets out without them jumping all over the
> house. I usually dump crickets out of the eggcrates into the little box
to
> feed them.
> Oh and keep them in the garage because those little devils sing really
loud
> when there are that many of them.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
>
>
Denise Loving
wrote:
>my crickets were silent. all 45 of them
>
Only adult males chirp. Luckily for me my geckos and green snakes
don't need any that big, so I buy them no older than 4 weeks and feed
them out before they get mature. Now and then an escapee reaches
maturity and sings in hiding in the house.
Denise
mca...@my.mindspring.com
and everyone in here has been able to give you ideas on a better
storage system.
I work for a small pet store (4 employees) and I deal with a lot of
reptiles and various other creatures. So when you say that a pet store
is not the way to go, I am dismayed. You have grouped "Pet Smart" with
the pet store industry. I do not consider them a pet store in anyway.
About the only thing that they are good for is selling dog food and
pet supplies. But never pets!
There are many store across the United States, around the world for
that matter, that do know how to care for the animals in their charge.
I personally will not sell any animal to anyone that I think will not
take care of them. When I hear "What can I get by with today", they
are out the door minus an animal. I do not care if I don't sell an
animal to someone, that is not what it is all about.
I would recommend this. Next time you go to get a rep or anything else
that you are unsure about. Get some information about them first. Stay
away from Pet Smart. Stay away from any store that has a IPO on the
stock markets. Go back to the little guys. The ones that deal with
these animals on a daily personal basis.
That is my two cents. Now, if you can collect another eighty cents or
so you may be able to buy a soda, that is if you can find a machine
that takes pennies :)
1 Emperor Scorpion
2 Female Water Dragons - 1 Male
1 Savannah Monitor
1 Nile Monitor
and last but not least - 2 Honduran Milk Snakes
Julie Pascal
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(...)
> I work for a small pet store (4 employees) and I deal with a lot of
> reptiles and various other creatures. So when you say that a pet store
> is not the way to go, I am dismayed.
> I would recommend this. Next time you go to get a rep or anything else
> that you are unsure about. Get some information about them first. Stay
> away from Pet Smart. Stay away from any store that has a IPO on the
> stock markets. Go back to the little guys. The ones that deal with
> these animals on a daily personal basis.
Not all the little ones are any good either. I don't
think that there is anything inherently wrong with
a pet store, but the reptiles at PetsMart don't look
any worse off than some I've seen other places.
Not that every employee is going to be equally
knowledgeable, but just yesterday I asked about
some "Yellow Spotted Amevia" that one local
store had for sale. The label on the tank was a bit
hard to read and the kid working there couldn't
even tell me if "Amevia" was the correct spelling.
I'd just been to PetsMart and I think I managed to
snag a manager or something to help me find mite
medicine and he asked about my animals and offered
to special order Tokay Geckoes and said the name
of the place they got them from, etc. I'm tempted.
Even so I'll be going to a herp specialist pet store
a bit farther away today and buying a pair of Tokay
Geckoes. *If* they have an unrelated pair, of course.
Not that I've always gotten correct advice from
them, either, but generally they seem to know what
they are doing and the animals look healthy and
happy in naturalistic vivariums. (The babies are
in shoeboxes in the back.)
--Julie
Natalie Rigertas
: Not all the little ones are any good either. I don't
: think that there is anything inherently wrong with
: a pet store, but the reptiles at PetsMart don't look
: any worse off than some I've seen other places.
Unfortunately, PetsMart and PetCo utilize mills for their small animals
(reptiles, birds, mice, ferrets, etc). Stuff like Fluker's farm (and
their infamous "blue iguanas"), Edna's bird farm, etc. What they dont'
get from millers they tend to get from importers. I have yet to find one
of these big chain stores that actually gets any animals from small local
breeders.
:
:
: Even so I'll be going to a herp specialist pet store
: a bit farther away today and buying a pair of Tokay
: Geckoes. *If* they have an unrelated pair, of course.
: Not that I've always gotten correct advice from
: them, either, but generally they seem to know what
: they are doing and the animals look healthy and
: happy in naturalistic vivariums. (The babies are
: in shoeboxes in the back.)
:
Have you tried your local herp society as a resource yet? Many of them
have people who breed occasionally, as well as animals that need
rehoming. Places like PetsMart expect deaths (they see nothing wrong with
something like 5 dead animals out of a box of 20). The ones in my area
still do crap like feed leopard torts animal protein, not provide UVB, etc
even when given the correct information, because they can only do what the
corporation lets them do regarding the care. IT just really sucks.
natalie
--
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Adam
to sucker me into buying too many crickets and risking my lizard
> and everyone in here has been able to give you ideas on a better
> storage system.
>
> reptiles and various other creatures. So when you say that a pet store
> the pet store industry. I do not consider them a pet store in anyway.
> About the only thing that they are good for is selling dog food and
> pet supplies. But never pets!
>
> There are many store across the United States, around the world for
> that matter, that do know how to care for the animals in their charge.
> I personally will not sell any animal to anyone that I think will not
> take care of them. When I hear "What can I get by with today", they
> are out the door minus an animal. I do not care if I don't sell an
> animal to someone, that is not what it is all about.
>
> that you are unsure about. Get some information about them first. Stay
> away from Pet Smart. Stay away from any store that has a IPO on the
> stock markets. Go back to the little guys. The ones that deal with
> these animals on a daily personal basis.
>
Wrathchild
give me the smaller half-grown ones. When I ask for smaller crickets,
they give me pinheads. I like to use the one's that aren't quite
adults yet, because they are very quiet.
Justin Kimberlin
1.0.0 Blue-tounged Skink (Thor)
2.0.0 Leopard Geckos (Lou and Frank)
?.? Crickets
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 20:19:25 GMT, "Adam" <swor...@worldnet.att.net>
wrote:
Rowanwood OwlCat
some good advice -- granted, I've never bought an animals from them . . . .
RW
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five".<<<
THAT is the FUNNIEST thing I have heard in a long time!
later,
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potatoes. Excellent gut load. Do not add vitamin dust to cricket food.
Kills them and can cause a vitamin build-up in the animals that eat the
crickets.
VIN-PCF Wyvern
Feed 5 to 8 a day? depends on the lizard...My Bearded dragon eats 20
to 30 crix a day...I buy crix 500 or 1000 at a time.<<<
For an animal whose diet is heavy on the vegetarian side of omnivorous-ness
that seems to be way more than they need especially on a daily basis.
war...@my-deja.com
>
On a related note, I have a BD I have had for 3 weeks now(she is 8-9
weeks now). From day one she has been a healthy eater. The Herp store
I got her from told me to feed her 10 small - med (depend on size I
know) crickets a day. I feed her 5 in the morning and 5 in early
evening. She always looks at me as if she wants more, when I give her
more she always eats them. I also give her fresh vegetables daily.
She loves peas. My question is, what is the norm for a BD for crickets
each day. If I only fed her 5 she would starve!
Thanks for any input!!! Lisa
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Before you buy.
Adam
orange slices in with my lizard? I was told oranges are bad for Sudan
Plated Lizards.
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VIN-PCF Wyvern
>Use dark greens and orange slices to provide food and water instead of
>potatoes. Excellent gut load. Do not add vitamin dust to cricket food.
>Kills them and can cause a vitamin build-up in the animals that eat the
>crickets.
I use sliced carrots rather than oranges...much better results and also gives
the crix. a decent source of beta carotene. I also found that if you lace the
cricket food with calcium powder it will kill them as well. I only feed the
calcium laced stuff to crickets the morning of the day I would feed the crix.
to an animal.
Bart
kind), whether or not they are also eating pellet food, cage temperature,
activity level, growth rate of the beardie, nutritional value of the crix
(gutloaded?), and the metabolism of the individual lizard. I have found
that the best gauge for how much to feed a beardie is their weight and how
eagerly they are eating at the moment. Beardies will usually keep eating
their favorite foods as long they have more. They'll slow down after a
while, but they will also get FAT, and obesity can cause serious health
problems for the dragons
In other words, use your best judgement, feed them only healthy foods (easy
on the meal worms and pinkies) and you should be fine.
Bart
1:1:20 bearded dragon (17 more due any day!)
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PETEDITTIE
McM West
gravid. They ate a box of 1000 crickets all in one meal and still ate their
alphalfa and dandelions
Wrathchild
crickets. I also use ESU Reptile Gut Load food for the crix. I was
dusting the crix before putting them in their temporary comtainer. I
noticed that I was losing quite a few. I didn't realize that it was
because of the dusting. I put some in without dusting and they almost
all lived (until begin eaten). I dust them now before putting them in
with the Leopard Geckos. I think I will try alternating carrots with
orange slices and see how that works.
Justin Kimberlin
1.0.0 Blue-tounged Skink (Thor)
2.0.0 Leopard Geckos (Lou and Frank)
?.? Crickets
Rob Cowitz
>
> Unfortunately, PetsMart and PetCo utilize mills for their small animals
> (reptiles, birds, mice, ferrets, etc). Stuff like Fluker's farm (and
> their infamous "blue iguanas"), Edna's bird farm, etc. What they dont'
> get from millers they tend to get from importers. I have yet to find one
> of these big chain stores that actually gets any animals from small local
> breeders.
Depends on where you are. I'm in Calgary, Canada, and have been
suprisingly pleased with the local PetSmart stores. The herp folks
actually seem to know what they're doing, from what they tell me they
won't sell chameleons to people until they get a book and do some
research, and then come back later, and they've been very interested in
buying some of my juvenile day geckos that I've been raising. For the
most part, the conditions they keep their animals in seem to be as good
as, if not better than, the other pet shops in town (although pet store
enclosures are generally pretty bad, in my opinion).
As for my decision to sell my day geckos, I'm still holding back as I'd
much rather sell them to serious herpers who know what they're doing and
what they're getting into than turning my "babies" loose on an
unsuspecting public and (even relatively good) pet store conditions.
- Rob
tonyke...@gmail.com
> I went to the pet store where I purchaased my lizard (I know now that a pet
> many crickets they fed him when they kept him. They told me 45, so I
> purchased 45 crickets and gave them too him. Upon releasing them, what
> looked like only a few crickets in the bag became a horde in his vivarium.
> Now he's hiding in the corner and not eating the crickets. What can I
> do?!?!