Canine Air Travel
Chris Iacovelli
already checked and he is too big to bring in the cabin. Therefore, I have
to put him in cargo. Does anybody have any suggestions that will help
with the filght, flight has two legs and is approx 7 hours flight time.
Please e-mail or post any responses.
ADthanksVANCE
cdi
Stella Wirk
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NO NO NO NO NO, I urge you NOT to put your loving pet into the hold of
the airplane!!! Please check the statistics about this -- *many* pets
have DIED horrible deaths in there, obviously having tried to scratch
out of their cargo container cage! I'm sure others will offer some
more comments on this. Truly do check it out.
Maybe this time you could take the TRAIN? I don't think you can take
a dog on a bus. Oh, try getting a "drive away" car (someone who wants
a car delivered near where you are going)! Anything. I personally
would NEVER put my pet in the cargo area -- usually it is not pressure
or temperature controlled. It is very unsafe for living creatures.
>ADthanksVANCE
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Dena Delgado
>Subject: Canine Air Travel
>From: stell...@toadhall.com (Stella Wirk)
>Date: Mon, 9 May 94 02:41:00 -0700
>>ADthanksVANCE
Sorry Stella,
You are very much misinformed. There are many airlines who will take your dog
in a travel crate and keep it safe in a pressurized cabin right under the
passenger area. This is where the main kitchen is located and there are crew
members there working during the flight. If the dog is acclimated to the
crate a few weeks in advance of the flight, there is little or no trauma
involved for the dog. You must check with the airlines to find out how they
treat live animal passengers to determine which one would be best for your
needs.
Granted there have been accidents with regard to animals traveling, but there
are far more successful trips for our furry friends. Care and being well
informed are paramount when flying an animal. Making sure your pet is on the
plane before you board is also something you should do, as well as claiming
him between flights if necessary to make sure he gets on the next flight with
you.
Dena Delgado (a.k.a. the dachshund lady) :-)
Cindy Tittle Moore
>>Chris Iacovelli wrote to All
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>> I am relocating an will need to take my dog on an airplane. I have
>>already checked and he is too big to bring in the cabin. Therefore, I have
>>to put him in cargo. Does anybody have any suggestions that will help
>>with the filght, flight has two legs and is approx 7 hours flight time.
>>
>> Please e-mail or post any responses.
>NO NO NO NO NO, I urge you NOT to put your loving pet into the hold of
>the airplane!!! Please check the statistics about this -- *many* pets
>have DIED horrible deaths in there, obviously having tried to scratch
>out of their cargo container cage! I'm sure others will offer some
>more comments on this. Truly do check it out.
I think you're being a little alarmist here. Yes, there are some
problesm with shipping by air, but a little preparation can reduce
much of the risk.q
For example, always put ;your dog on a direct flight to the
destination. If they sit around on the tarmac or have to change
planes, the chances of something going wrong go up dramatically.
Don't ship to or from somwhere when the temperatures are extreme. You
want between 0 and 60 F in general (a higher minimum if the dog is
sensitive to the cold).
I know people who ship their dogs all the time. It can be done with
relaltively little risk. Just use common sense. There's a list of tips
in the faq, I think the first part (could be second) of the misc faqs.
--Cindy
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Melanie Morris
temperature is above 85 degrees, or the flight is longer than 4 hours. I don't know
exactly what you mean by a flight of "two legs" but a nonstop flight is always best
if possible. The dogs are loaded last and unloaded first, but if the plane is delayed
on the tarmac, the dog could get overheated and you must DEMAND that the dog be
removed. You also need to be quite insistent in checking that the dog has indeed been
loaded onto the plane.
I was further told that if the dog could stand up in its carry-on crate, it could go
in the cabin. Of course that limits it to pretty dang small dogs!
Like Chris, I am concerned abou this (actually I'm having hysterics) and if anyone
could offer advice, I'd love to hear it. Rebel, by the way, is a 27-pound beagle.
If a dog travels in a Sherpa bag, do you have to buy a ticket for him, or can he go
under the seat? That is, does the Sherpa bag take the place of a crate, or does it
mean the dog goes in a paid-for seat? The fiberglas crate dimensions I was given are 17" long, 12" wide, and 8" high. So for a dog to be able to stand up in an 8" high crate, he'd have to be
pretty little...
Lisa K. Baird
thrill me, but she has dome just fine! And this is a sleep on the bed
type of pet! We used USAir's PDQ service and had NO problems. A recent
Gazette issue (the brood bitch issue) had a good, informative article on
shipping by air. Good luck, Lisa
Carolyn Peterson
> There are many airlines who will take your dog
>in a travel crate and keep it safe in a pressurized cabin right under the
>passenger area. This is where the main kitchen is located and there are crew
>members there working during the flight.
This sounds nice! Can you name some of these airlines? I haven't had
good luck trying to make air travel arrangements for our dog.
We were planning to fly on Morris air this spring with our dog. At the
time we bought the tickets, we weren't 100% sure he was going, so asked
about taking him, but didn't get his ticket. He is small enough we
could take him as carry on, which is what I wanted to do. A few weeks
later, I called Morris to get his ticket and was told Morris and
Southwest would now only allow service dogs on the airplane. The
supervisor I spoke with claimed they had been losing 35% of the animals
on the airline. They did at least give us a full refund on our tickets.
We ended up taking a 3400 mile auto trip so the dog could go along.
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Carolyn Peterson
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pam
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a problem (die or are injured). Even the "scare you to death" shows on
television have stated this. There is a risk, but things have improved very
much. It is very important that you schedule your flight so that you are
not flying during the middle of the day (which given the length of the flight
may be difficult) atleast make sure the time spent on the ground during
layovers is not in the middle of the day (night time is best, but early
morning will do). This will be greatly appreciated by your pet as it means
the cargo area will not heat up too much. The cargo area is cool when you
fly because the outside temp at that altitude is cold.
If I were you I would find out the percentage of "incidents" involving pets
for all of the airlines that fly the route you need to go. Also talk to them
and find out what their policy is in terms of taking care of your pet, what
will happen if the plane is delayed (they should take the pet off the
airplane) etc. Go with the company that gives you the answers you want.
Be aware that "incidents" include injuries to pets, lost pets, and death of
pets etc.
Make sure that the kennel is secure. You may want to put a lock on the kennel
and put one key in a pouch attached to a kennel and carry the other one. To
do this you must make sure that the people can give your pet water from the
outside of the cage. If they have to open the door the likely hood of
something happening to your pet increases. Attach food to the kennel and
an extra leash (anything your dog may need if it gets on a different flight
than you do). Make sure the kennel is extremely secure and airline approved.
Also be aware that airlines reserve the right to not take a pet if they
think that the conditions (usually temperature) will be unsafe for the pet.
This could be a problem if you are flying with the dog. Make sure you
know what happens if this case occurs.
I hope this helps.
- Pam
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