Places you've illegally snuck your dog
Melanie L Chang
Having a small (9 lbs), highly portable dog who sneaks into 'no dogs
allowed' places with me in a shoulder bag, I was wondering if other small
dog owners often sneak their dog places too. Harley lies quietly in a
tote and smiles up at me while I go to Ikea, into bone lab (doggie
heaven!--and no, she's not allowed to eat the human skeletal materials),
and to various administrative offices to sit down, chat, and fill out forms.
This only works because she's the world's mellowest Pom, I guess. Oh,
and she adores car trips too, quietly sharing my seat with me.
Anyone else do this?
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Rebelady
>Having a small (9 lbs), highly portable dog who sneaks into 'no dogs
>allowed' places with me in a shoulder bag, I was wondering if other small
>dog owners often sneak their dog places too. Harley lies quietly in a
>tote and smiles up at me while I go to Ikea, into bone lab (doggie
>heaven!--and no, she's not allowed to eat the human skeletal materials),
>and to various administrative offices to sit down, chat, and fill out forms.
>Anyone else do this?
I snuck my mini longhair dachshund, Sonia, into the Trump Taj Mahal and a few
other casinos in Atlantic City in a backpack. She was seen by quite a few
employees (sticking her little head out of the bag) who just smiled, petted
her and said watch out for security. :) She also used to go with me into the
Quick Check convenience store when I lived in Bradley Beach, NJ... not hidden
though, I'd just carry her in in my arms--and the clerk always had a bunch of
cold cut scraps waiting for her which she would feed her right at the checkout
counter. I guess it pays to have a small adorable dog (not that all dogs
aren't adorable in one way or another). My hairdresser even let her sit in my
lap during my bi-weekly harcuts. Actually, during the first couple of years
she went everywhere with me. No pets allowed just meant hiding her in the
packpack, not leaving her. (I certainly wasn't going to leave my baby in the
car while I went shopping at the mall!)
Jessica
Everett Jennings
the reservation takers what animals we were bringing -- then arrived to
discover a notice informing us that ONE SMALL DOG ONLY was permitted.
It's not easy, but we have discovered that two Afghan Hounds and three
Dalmatians CAN be disguised as ONE SMALL DOG, if you are in a rear room,
and you are very quick and clever! It's sure a relief when we DON'T have
to sneak, however! (And we ALWAYs travel with crates, and pick up after
our dogs, BTW!) Jeri Collari, SoCalif.
Matt Dettman
>Having a small (9 lbs), highly portable dog who sneaks into 'no dogs
>allowed' places with me in a shoulder bag, I was wondering if other small
>dog owners often sneak their dog places too. Harley lies quietly in a
>tote and smiles up at me while I go to Ikea, into bone lab (doggie
>heaven!--and no, she's not allowed to eat the human skeletal materials),
>and to various administrative offices to sit down, chat, and fill out forms.
>
>This only works because she's the world's mellowest Pom, I guess. Oh,
>and she adores car trips too, quietly sharing my seat with me.
>
>Anyone else do this?
A friend of my dads gave us a long haired chihuahua (sp?) many years ago (
the dog has since passed away). My older brother used to bring her in the
car every where we went and would put her in his jacket with the dogs back
to his stomach and the jacket zipped up so the dogs head would just peak
out. He even did it in restaurants. The wait-persons would never even see
her. The dog loved it and never made a sound, just licked my brother on the
chin occasionally.
Matt
Junko Shiota
: Please excuse the grammar in the title line. :)
: Anyone else do this?
:
We used to have a 65 lbs standard poodle and we've snuck him into a dorm,
onto trains (usually dogs have to be under 45 lbs to be allowed on
trains), classrooms, office and gym. Now our new 25 lbs puppy does the
same. Also our last poodle (65 lbs) who considered my boyfriend the
leader of the pack, himself the second, and me the third, used to refuse
to give up the front passenger side seat, so very often I had to sit with
the dog in the front pulling the safety belt way out!
Matt Friedman
(Valerie Chapman) wrote:
> I once took Norman to Grateful Dead Night at the Blue Moon tavern
> (Seattle). He sat at a back booth. Not too many people notice he was a dog.
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> Valerie, owned by Nick Norm and Dot
Well, I guess that says a lot about the clientele.
marlene
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Stephanie, Library Office, 6124
I stayed at a Motel 6 recently in Helena, MT, over a dog show weekend. The
motel was listed in the show premium list as one that would welcome us
show-goers, and sure enough, the place was packed with exhibitors and their
dogs. There were signs saying ONE SMALL DOG ONLY - but it was a joke,
surely: next door to us was a massive Great Pyrenees peering out of the
window, two doors down were three Dalmatians..... No-one complained,
no-one was thrown out, the management appeared to be quite happy with
the masses of canine guests. The grassy areas where people walked their
dogs were being kept clean, and I'm sure the motel appreciated the extra
revenue that weekend. (And I was happy at getting the final 2 points on
my Puli male!)
Stef
Cathy Tweeddale
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> Posted: 19 Oct 1994 16:38:34 GMT
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> Org. : University of Washington
>
> I once took Norman to Grateful Dead Night at the Blue Moon tavern
> (Seattle). He sat at a back booth. Not too many people notice he was a
> dog.
>
> -------
> Valerie, owned by Nick Norm and Dot
I've had dates like that, too! :-)
Cathy
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Burnaby, B.C., Canada
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Valerie Chapman
Steve Phillips
>Subject: Re: Places you've illegally snuck your dog
>From: ma...@CAM.ORG (Matt Friedman)
>Date: Fri, 21 Oct 1994 00:58:22 -0500
It was too hot to leave kindchen our dobe in the car so my wife took him into
the restroom at burger king! The lady in the next stall got a big surprise
when she saw his head peering under the divider... She took it well and
was very glad to meet him.
Ellen Shay
I've been following this thread for a while, and it concerns me for 2 reasons.
First, I've followed people who have snuck dogs into places. I've been asked
to sign hotel sign-in forms to verify/promise I will not bring in a dog.
When I asked the clerk about it, I was told that irresponsible dog owners
had forced them to use the policy. This hotel chain normally welcomes dogs.
When I've been in a position such that I had one of my dogs with me and
needed to run into a store, etc., I've been turned down, often because
people have snuck their dogs in, without permission, and, when caught, not
even bothered to apologize.
Second, and more important, people who sneak their dogs in and/or allow
their dogs to act irresponsibly when they are allowed to take their dogs
places make it very difficult for people with service dogs (guide, hearing,
assistance, seizure-alert, etc.) to have the access federal and state laws
allow them. I recently spent almost a week at a conference with several
people with service dogs and was appalled (and embarassed) by the reaction
many businesses, etc. have to them and their dogs. While at the conference,
they had cabs drive off as soon as the cabbie spotted the dog, even though
the person had their hand on the door handle. One woman had to spend a lot
of extra time convincing the store security and manager that her dog was
allowed access--all she wanted to do was buy an alarm clock (BTW, by law,
she was not required to prove her dog was certified--she decided to educate
the store rather than report it--she was eventually able to buy to clock).
Getting their dogs into restaurants was especially difficult. These are by
no means isolated incidents. They go through this every day, all day. One of
the reasons they have such trouble is because people with pet dogs have not
been responsible about where they take their dogs and how they act when they
are (or are not) allowed entry.
It would be wonderful if the US were more like Europe in its attitude
towards dogs, allowing us to take our dogs with us almost everywhere. All we
can do is act responsibly and think about the fallout from our actions.
Maybe sometime in the future our dogs will be more welcome.
End of soapbox.
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Everett Jennings
: I stayed at a Motel 6 recently in Helena, MT, over a dog show weekend. The
: motel was listed in the show premium list as one that would welcome us
: show-goers, and sure enough, the place was packed with exhibitors and their
: dogs. There were signs saying ONE SMALL DOG ONLY - but it was a joke,
Stef -- Yes, Motel 6 (bless their hearts) DOES open its doors to the dog
population when it's showtime -- we just came back from a stay at the
Motel 6 in Las Vegas, and it was great. HOWEVER ... when it is NOT dog
show time, they are very serious about that sign. And, in fact, the
Motel 6 in Las Vegas NORMALLY does not allow ANY pets. (Nor do most Las
Vegas motels, BTW). Jeri Collari
Steven Abrams
<sha...@hps.sso.loral.com> writes:
> [...] I've been turned down, often because
> people have snuck their dogs in, without permission, and, when caught, not
> even bothered to apologize.
In general, places put up and enforce no-dogs-allowed policies not
because people have snuck their well-behaved dogs in, but because
when there was no policy, irresponsible people came with their
badly-behaved dogs. Most places find it easier to have "no dogs"
policy than a "well-behaved dogs welcome policy."
What was the sign someone saw in a motel? Something like..
Are dogs allowed?
A dog has never skipped out without paying the bill
gotten drunk and beat up the clerk
stolen towels
[etc., etc.,]
So, maybe I should ask your dog if I should let YOU stay here!
> [....] They go through this every day, all day. One of
> the reasons they have such trouble is because people with pet dogs have not
> been responsible about where they take their dogs and how they act when they
> are (or are not) allowed entry.
This is the key. If a place had a no-dogs policy but people were
consistently sneaking well-behaved dogs in, they'd probably change the
policy, sooner or later. Similarly, dogs are usually prohibited only
because of irresponsible acts in the past. The more well-behaved dogs
and owners there are, the fewer restrictions there will be.
Brandy has been in many places with no-pets policies (usually with
permission) without problems. Now, because he's known, they let him
in. I used to pick him up and stand at the door asking if I could
bring him in. The answer was usually 'yes' even if there's a no-dogs
allowed sign. They get to know him and then I don't have to carry
him.
My favorite place where this happened was the butcher shop, which
happens to be next door to a pet supply shop that we frequent. Of
course, we've gotten some free bones to take home for him this way!
One of the countermen is actually afraid of dogs, and when we go in,
the others give him a hard time about the killer sheltie. ;-).
We are considerate. A customer was afriad of dogs, so I went outside
while my wife paid for our stuff.
~~~Steve
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past thousands of people. Last year I was invited to bring one of my
greyhounds to the animal rights booth at the state fair. The General and
I had no problem getting onto the fairground but when we tried to enter
the building where the AR booth was, someone pointed out a sign, probably
left up from the last flea market prior to the fair, that said "NO PETS."
I explained that the General was not a pet but a display. The lady said,
"Oh, come on in." Even the fair cops came by to see him and a highway
patrol officer asked for a greyhound adoption application.
BTW, the General is now redesignated as a pet now and like it better. :-)
Dan Fleming
: It might have been illegal but it is hard to sneak an 80 lb. greyhound in
: past thousands of people. Last year I was invited to bring one of my
We have a Pug, Kelly, that has been a wonderful, faithful, companion to
us for several years. (pugs are GREAT) Anyway, my Dad always took care
of Kelly in the daytime as my wife and I work. He loved this dog more
than you can imagine (maybe not or you wouldn't be in this confence).
Well, Dad got sick and had to go to the hospital and the prognosis was
not good. Saturday night we decided to smuggle Kelly into the Intensive
Care Unit. In my father's weakened condition he still managet to smile
and stroke Kelly in the loving way that he had done many times before.
Kelly loved Dad just as much and was very happy to see him since he
had been in the hospital for several weeks.
I cried when I saw my Dad and his (our) Kelly saying their last
goodbyes. (I'm getting teary eyed now).
Dad passed away the next evening and it will be a year in January.
Somehow I always felt that both dog and man knew a destiny was about to
end and start again.
Kelly still goes back to his bedroom looking for some old man she once
knew. I still look too.
Ruth Evans
><sha...@hps.sso.loral.com> writes:
>> [...] I've been turned down, often because
>> people have snuck their dogs in, without permission, and, when caught, not
>> even bothered to apologize.
>In general, places put up and enforce no-dogs-allowed policies not
>because people have snuck their well-behaved dogs in, but because
>when there was no policy, irresponsible people came with their
>badly-behaved dogs. Most places find it easier to have "no dogs"
>policy than a "well-behaved dogs welcome policy."
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>My favorite place where this happened was the butcher shop, which
>happens to be next door to a pet supply shop that we frequent. Of
>course, we've gotten some free bones to take home for him this way!
>One of the countermen is actually afraid of dogs, and when we go in,
>the others give him a hard time about the killer sheltie. ;-).
I've never understood our American phobia of dog's in public places. While
visiting Germany, I was astounded to see dogs in publics places just about
everywhere. When I asked my English speaking friend about it, she seemed
astonished that we would NOT allow dogs to go with their human friends. She
said dogs are allowed anywhere...however SOME butchers do place placards in
their windows requesting that dogs not come inside.
Ruth Evans
wvdg...@inter.nl.net
> I've never understood our American phobia of dog's in public places. While
> visiting Germany, I was astounded to see dogs in publics places just about
> everywhere. When I asked my English speaking friend about it, she seemed
> astonished that we would NOT allow dogs to go with their human friends. She
> said dogs are allowed anywhere...however SOME butchers do place placards in
> their windows requesting that dogs not come inside.
In Holland things are a bit different. Although lots of people own a dog
they are not allowed in butchershops and supermarkets (basically any place
where food is being sold). Not because people are afraid, but because of
government regulations. This is done purely for hygienic reasons.
Unfortunately, lots of people with a dog simply refuse to clean up the
litter, even in the middle of the pavement. Because of this, dogs are
being restricted more and more, which is a pity for those who do clean
up.