OT - My Life :} + Adios, leah. I TOLD YOU SO.
Jerry Howe
"Leah" <dfrnt...@aol.comMURK-OFF> wrote in message
news:20020518202630...@mb-mk.aol.com...
> Okay, so I hope you guys don't mind if I continue being personal with ya.
:}
I'd rather you didn't. My Daddy sez "if you lay with pigs, you'll wake
up smelling like them."
> We've known each other a year now, we talk every day...
My Daddy sez "you're judged by the company you keep."
> we smile with each other,
My Daddy sez "if you sing in the morning you'll cry by nite."
> cry with each other,
NOT ME. I don't sleep with pigs, keep bad company, and
I don't sing in the morning.
> and bicker with each other.
And my Daddy sez no fighting.
> Hell, we're family! :}
Yeah, now get the heel outta here you miserable Thug and take
your stinkin dog abusing lying sisters with you.
> Anyway, I've already told you about the medical stuff.
Big deal, you're a hypocondriac.
> I find out if I have cancer on Tuesday,
Yeah, I can hardly wait. Will you kill your dogs if you got to check out?
> and my cystoscopy is scheduled for Friday. Bummer week.
Good for you. dogman sez a little pain is good for us.
> But it gets worse. :}
Always does, that's HOWE COME I always listen to my Daddy...
> Hey, this sounds like a country song; let's see if I can
> make it one (moderately fast tempo, 4/4 time, insert deep-South accent):
Sounds like sining in the morning to me..., sista.
> (verses)
> All day I'm so tired
> My nights are filled with dreams
> I don't bring home no money
> No energy to think
So, that explains HOWE COME you can't outwit the cunning
of the domestic puppy dog.
> My body's like a used car
Don't tempt me...
> Each part is rusting thin
> If you think that's enough, well, honey,
> It ain't yet done begin
> <steel guitar riff - 2 bars>
> (verses)
> My house smells like a kennel
> My dog is going wild
> All's I can do is get through work
> Thank God I'm not with child!
Oy! What a thought! You can kill your dogs, but you'll go to jail for
killin your kids you'll not be able to raise to be decent human beings,
like mikey d and lying lois... poor kids.
> The last two years I lost six
> Of my closest family
> If you think that's enough, well, honey,
> Just listen here to me
You're OFF TOPIC and undesirable here on rpdb, leah. Take
it elsewhere. We got dog business to discuss. We don't appreciate
you playing your stupid games here.
> <steel guitar riff - 1 bar>
> (chorus)
> My man
> He's gonna leave me
> I'm in
> An awful place
> You got
> To love his timing
> 'Cause he just got an 8-thousand buck raise
EXCELLENT! He wised up. Perhaps he's read rpdb and figured
out you're a screwball, leah?
> I got A month to find me
> A place Where I can crash
> A home (Please, Lord, a fenced yard)
> I think I'm gonna end up trailer trash
Perhaps you still got time to fix things up? I think this
all started when you killed Buck for convienience. That
gave your Joey a discomfiting thought, wondering about
HOWE loyal you'd be to him when he's old and infirm?
That'd been enough to send me runnin that same day...
> (verses)
You could cry in your beer or you could TRY to rehabilitate
the situation. Works the same way it woulda worked had
you listened to me when Buck was KILLED.
> I kinda think it's funny
I ain't laughin. You have solutions and you'd rather
play around and do as you will, which have gleaned you
the results I predicted... (HOWE'S my granma, professor?
I don't wanna screw up any plural verbs.)
> It's all just so surreal A brand new chance to make
> A life for me, a way to heal
If that's what you prefer, that's what you'll get. You
can probably turn things around if you follow my
instructions.
> I've always been a loner
Yeah, me too. But you need a good push.
> Maybe it's for the best
Not as I see it, but I may be not aware of all that's
going on in your charts.
> If you think it's the end, now, honey,
> Just listen to the rest
You can write the final chapter anyHOWE you'd LIKE.
> <steel guitar riff - 1 bar>
"Sing in the mornin and you'll cry at nite..." sez Daddy.
> (chorus)
Not me...
> My man He's gonna leave me
That wouldn't be the case had you studied my manual
and took care of business properly. But you were too
lazy and selfish, and THAT'S HOWE COME your Joe
is HISTORY.
> He's taking All the debts
Duh-Oh!
> I'll still Be poor and ragged
Better to be poor than stupid and poor. You got it all, leah.
> I'm starting new,
Not unless something changes.
> but he's starting new frets
Maybe he don't wanna be with anyone who'd kill
their dog for the sake of a couple walks at nite.
> And love?
Look at HOWE you handle and train your dogs. That's LOVE?
You and dermer ought to get together. He'll tickle your fancy
with some scientific doubletalk and give you bits of rice cake
to motivate you to get off your dead ass and do some HOWES
work.
> Who really needs it?
You need psychiatric help, leah. It's NOT NORMAL what
you've been putting your dogs through for the sake of your
defective ego and inferiority complexes.
> I got All that I need
You got NUTHIN. You got no SUBSTANCE. You got no
CHARACTER. You got no MORALS. You got no ETHICS.
You got not PRINCIPLES. You got not HUMAN DECENCY,
leah. You're at the bottom of the bottom of the barrel...and
your SATISFIED, cause you NEED the pain, like you cause
your dogs.
> My life Is full of sweet love
You've been bitten three times by your own dog, leah. REMEMBER?
> With dog fur piling up all around me
That's probably a result of nerves from abusing your dogs.
> (verses)
Nope, not me.
> So that's the way it is, folks
That ain't HOWE it's got to be.
> My life's a country song
No. Your life is a NIGHTMARE. You wove it.
> But my dogs are alive and
I wouldn't bet on that for long, you're still having LOTS
of trouble with them, and apartments in C.FL are hard to
find with two dogs and NO JOB.
> My car don't have nothing wrong
You'll be selling that in two months to pay the trailer rent.
> I'm sick,
You're a hypocondriac.
> poor,
Because you're lazy stupid and self willed. You're UNTRAINABLE.
> and abandoned
You scripted it...
> But hopeful as can be
You're fantasizing again. Like when you think your dogs are
well behaved. Reality is coming like the wheels of justice,
and you'll be ground fine and sifted and your dogs will go
to kill shelters run by dog lovers like janet boss and mikey
ball and john richardson and lying "I LOVE KOEHLER" lynn
and sindy "don't let the dog SCREAM" mooreon or "kind 2
dogs" paulette to hold down and KILL them for you, as dog
lovers will do when they're HELPING dogs.
> If you think that's so strange, then, honey,
> You don't know Who's with me. :}
Yeah, I know moore than I care to.
> (heh heh... well, you know I'm a Bible-thumper. :}
Yes, a hipocrite. Say HOWEDY to BUBBA when you move
into the trailer park. You'll be able to make a living servicing
BUBBA'S when they run outta luck and enough dough to
have a real companion.
And they'll beat you and keep their hard earned dough.
BTW, there's a no kill shelter in ______, but the owner
is a screwball. But the dogs are well cared for and
pretty happy, considering. You'll get along well with them,
they may even hire you and let you live there.
That's HOWE COME I can't tell you the name of it,
I wouldn't want to see you abuse and mishandle the
poor dogs there like you've done to your own.
Even your Joey can't stand you and your petty selfishness.
Study my manual and I'll even HELP if you need it. Apply
the same techniques to your Joey and he may change HIS
mind IN ONE DAY, like my dog training students often find out.
My students write me telling me of their successes with their
employees and family members. Take this opportunity to
IMPROVE your lot in life, leah, as my students have told
you they have.
You know, the ones you call liars, paid shills for Jerry, and
animal fuckers, leah. Ask Nevyn. Ask Anthony. Ask Joe The
Guru. Ask Misty. Ask Charlie W. Ask Robert Crim. Ask
any of my students if changing EVERYTHING you do
and think MIGHT save your marriage and ultimately
yourself and your dogs.
Now get the heel outta here. Jerry.
> See My Furry Family At:
> http://www.angelfire.com/fl5/dogs0
> Madigan's Theme:
> "When she was good, she was very, very good
> But when she was bad, she was HORRID"
Yes, that's YOUR fault, not the dog's. j;~)
"Anthony Testa" <testa...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I moved to Jacksonville, Florida about a year ago with my lovely wife
< snip horror story >
> Listen to this...My wife wrote one of the so called know it all of
> pets. His response to the exact letter we initially wrote to
> Jerry..."Get rid of the dog, bring her back" I'll save this person
> embarrassment by not saying the name. However, you know who you are
> and I have this to say to you. Go pump gas or bus tables because you
> sir, do not belong working with animals!
> Jerry, after reading some of the threads in the news group, I can't
> for the life of me understand why this many people are so dang blind
> or ignorant.
> You just keep plugging away at what you do, because you my friend are
> a life saver!!!
> Anytime you need someone to speak about the results of your product,
> you have my number. We would gladly talk to them.
> Thank you very much for all your help. God bless you...
> Anthony & Linda Testa
> Jacksonville, Florida
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"misty" <Mom...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> I don't now whether Peach is dead or alive. I do know she's not here
> with us. I really can't blame anyone here for her loss. I'm the one
> who ignored your advice. I did it because of how you write/wrote. I
> was unwilling to accept the idea that my using a shock collar could have
> any bearing on Peach not wanting to stay home. Up until I started using
> it my main concern had been keeping my dogs in their own yard. Once I
> started using the e-fence...well, then my concern became how to keep
> them from running off for days on end.
> I lost valuable training time becoming embroiled in the anti-shock
> debate and the "Jerry sux" tirades.
> I lost one dog but I have the bestest dog in the world now <g> A Wits
> End Trained dog, one who is completely housetrained, doesn't chew up
> stuff, stays in the yard, and doesn't bark all the time. IOW a great
> companion and friend.
> Thanks Jerry!
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"misty" <Mom...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> We just installed a PetSafe brand fence this Spring.
> Two dogs, two collars We now have one dog and no
> collars.
> Peach and Zelda would run thru the fence, not want to
> come back in the yard and would run for days. The
> last time, Peach didn't come back home.
> I used the Wit's End Training Manual to learn how to
> train my dog. She is now border trained. A few
> minutes each day reinforces her desire to stay in the
> yard.
> She no longer runs out into the road, I can stop her
> from chasing cats and she no longer cringes when we
> walk around the yard.
> I can not say loud or long enough how much I hate the
> e-fence and its collars. If you can't get a regular fence
> then you need to train your dog. I will never rely on an
> electronic collar to keep my dog in our yard again.
> The price was too high:-(
> ~misty
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"JoeTheGuru" <joeth...@hotmail.com.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:3cab77eb$0$9993$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
> JERRY SAVE THIS LAD!!!!
> or it could be a troll <are you a troll??>
> do not use it on your dog..... would you use it on your best friend.....
> I have read jerry's book, it seems to easy at first. however I started to
> use some of the training out of it and now.
> I have a dog that heels as fast as a collie in a trial.<great dane X
> mastiff
> I have a dog that stays and never leaves the spot.
> I have a dog that comes when ever I call.
> I have a dog that never leaves the yard, never runs away.
> I have a dog that stands still to be washed with the cold hose.
> I have a dog that never pulls on the lead when we walk.
> I have a dog that puts up with more abuse then a dog should from my 2 year
> old <and loves it>
> I have a dog that barks at the fence only when some ones there.
> I have a dog that would not care less if there is another dog in the park
> <only wants to be with and please me>
> though a lot of this is due to me training the dog <spending the time with
> the dog>.
> jerry's book showed me not to punish the dog. but just to work with the
> dog. which I liked the idea of hence why I tried it. it is easy to become
> frustrated with a dog when you are trying to train them. I look forward
> to my next puppy <ban dog> so I can use the information from jerry's book
> and see just how good a dog can get. the dog I have now was when I picked
> her up from the RSPCA. she could not walk on a lead <no idea>. cowered
> from every noise <and wet her self>, messed in the house at every turn.
> acted like I was killing her when I dragged her over to the mess. this was
> a 6 month old pup that had been beaten <2.5 feet to the shoulder>.
> I could of taken her back however I knew I could bring her back to being
> to be a dog. the dog I have now at 1.5 years <same dog> is a dog to be
> proud to walk down the street with <3 feet to the shoulder and still
> growing>.
> so well behaved even when people walk passed with a out of control dog.
> gentle with my child and trust worthy < I never have to worry that my dog
> will bite her, only have to worry if a stranger comes over to my child.
> still that is not a worry she places herself between my child and the
> stranger>
> I may be plugging jerry's book, however with the crap out there it is good
> to see that someone has moved forward. looked at a different way to train
> dogs. yes he gets into people, and in their face < you should back off a
> little jerry> however he is sick of the bashing, choking, shocking,
> shaking, and everything else.
> so jerry save this lad from ruining his dog. later,
> Joe
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> <"Terri"@cyberhighway
> > Hey, do like me, and killfile Jerry.
> > He has millions of people aleady reading his posts and
> > watching him extract his soggy foot out of his mouth!
> > Out of these MILLIONS, I've only seen 2 naive childs
> > come forward and actually believe in his training manual.
> Robert Crim writes:
> I assume that I and my wife are those two naive childs since
> I freely admit to having read and, I hope, understood enough
> of the manual and it's counterparts by John Fisher and the
> posts of Marilyn Rammell to believe and use it. This naive
> child would like to say thank you to both Jerry and Marilyn for
> putting up with a constant barrage of really infantile crap at
> the hands of supposedly adult dog lovers.
> The other naive child (LSW) has to put up with the nagging
> idea that if people like them had been posting earlier, maybe
> we would not have had to hold the head of a really
> magnificent animal in our arms while he was given the
> needle and having to hug him and wait until he gasped
> his last gasp.
> To my mind, "naive" is believing you can terrorize a dog into
> good behavior. Naive is believing that people that hide
> behind fake names are more honest than people that use
> their real names. Naive is thinking that dilettante dog
> breeders and amateur "trainers" like Joey (lyingdogDUMMY,
> j.h.) are the equal or better than those that have studied and
> lived by their craft for decades.
> "Stupid" is believing that people do not see kindergarten
> level insults for what they are. Really stupid is believing that
> people like Jerry Howe and Marilyn Rammell are going to
> just go away because you people act like fools. Why do you
> act like fools? I really have no idea, and I don't really care.
> > And, to date: I've not seen ONE come forward and actually
> > admit to buying and having success with his little black
> > box.
> I think I'm going to get one myself for Father's day and take
> it down to the Animal Shelter for their use and testing. You
> would never believe the results, so you'll never know.
> > Anyone by now that doesn't see a scam man coming by
> > Jerry's posts deserves to get what is sure to be coming to
> > him! LOL!
> I don't see a "scam man", so I guess I and Longsuffering
> Wife and Rollei will just have to get what we deserve, eh?
> As Joey (Dogman) says, "poor Rollei.".......right.
> >Terri
> Yes it was, and that is sad.
> Robert, Longsuffering Wife and Rollei (do I get to listen to the box
> first?)
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Nevyn writes:
Jerry I cannot even begin to tell you the success Ive had with your training
manual! My two mutts have gone from out-of-control psychos to obedient well
behaved companions within a matter of weeks! AND My friends have seen the
success and have asked me to work on their dogs! I was working with a 5
month old Ridgeback female today and she was being an angel after like an
hour of working with her! it is AMAZING!! I pity those fools who take their
dogs to classes where the "Trainers" abuse their dogs! (do they have a
degree? A masters? a Phd? by the way? NO they are average joes off the
street who think they know how to train dogs!)
Once again, Jerry, you are a genius!
NEVYN and my Dogs, Rizzo and Midget, My Grandparents
dogs, Dusty and Snoopy, and my friends pup, Jazz.
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Here's a discussion I just had with Nevyn, who wrote in here
about four weeks ago with some dog aggression problems
and THEN some.
Never give out your password or credit card number in an
instant message conversation.
Nevyn says:
hello Jerry.
Jerry says:
HOWEDY Nevyn
Nevyn says:
How are you?
Jerry says:
sup?
Nevyn says:
Oh nothing
Nevyn says:
My dogs are alot better now!
Jerry says:
fine
Jerry says:
tell me
Nevyn says:
I can walk them on or off the leash and they don't give a #@% about other
dogs
Jerry says:
naah
Nevyn says:
I can let them inside and they wont eat the cats
Jerry says:
naah
Nevyn says:
Yup
Jerry says:
what did you do, buy a shock collar?
Nevyn says:
No
Nevyn says:
Praised them
Jerry says:
ahh!
Jerry says:
you think they're 100% better
Nevyn says:
'cept they still bark at the neighbour but only coz he swears at them and
pours water on them
Nevyn says:
nahh they still have stinky breath!
Nevyn says:
muahaha
Jerry says:
ok
Jerry says:
I'll go for that
Jerry says:
it'll take a couple more days to break the neighbor thing if you're
consistent
Jerry says:
then he won't swear and throw water at them
Nevyn says:
yeah but he's only out on the weekends
Jerry says:
but they'll still have stinky breath
Nevyn says:
muahahaha
Jerry says:
you gonna write the group and tell them they're suckin hind teat?
Nevyn says:
eh
Nevyn says:
nah
Nevyn says:
cant
Nevyn says:
my news server isn't workin
Nevyn says:
how about u just screenshot or copy this chat and post it
Jerry says:
why not.
Nevyn says:
sorry been tryin all day to get on the news server
Jerry says:
you got anything you'd like to tell the dog lovers who would prefer
to see you choke and shock and lock your dogs in a box?
Jerry says:
I guess you don't want to tell them nuthin that they don't already know,
huh?
Nevyn says:
hah
Nevyn says:
tell them they're fuckers who need to die
Nevyn says:
dogs aren't for abusing they are for loving they love so much
Jerry says:
that's HOWE COME they got me now
Jerry says:
howe much training time did it take for the two of 'em?
Nevyn says:
pfftt
Nevyn says:
it didn't even seem like training
Nevyn says:
its been 24 days since I got your manual
Jerry says:
pfffttt!!!!
Jerry says:
hhahahahaha
Jerry says:
have you got that feeling that they're in tune with EVERYTHING you're
wanting them to do?
Jerry says:
I forgot what city you're in.
Jerry says:
maybe if you're near alphalpha sweeny you can swing by and LAUGH your ass
off at him growling at his dogs???
Jerry says:
BWWWHAHAHAHAHAAAA!!!
Nevyn says:
LOL
Nevyn says:
I'm in Perth, Australia!
Nevyn says:
and yes they do seem to be in tune
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Nevyn says:
oh!! the other day my dogs went into submissive position when a
tiny little toy poodle came up barking at them! !LOL
Jerry says:
EXCELLENT!
Nevyn says:
lol
Jerry says:
they knew they didn't need to fight, cause everything was in
your expert control.
Keep up the good work. j;~)
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From: Nevyn (ali...@wasp.net.au)
Subject: Newsgroups: rec. pets. dogs. behavior
View this article only
Date: 2002-03-01 03:15:50 PST
Hello
I have two mungrel females; the breeds exactly are Blue Heeler
(spots) x Kelpi (dominant genes) x American Pitbull (behavioural) x Pug
(don't laugh!).
They are gentle loving dogs when I'm at home with them, and they are
friendly with unknown people. They are sisters. One is obviously
dominant over the other, and I don't have a problem with that,
however;
Their behaviour is very odd. Some days they are very good whilst I'm
walking them, some days they are not. They are 3 years old and have
only been walking for about 12 months because my mom didn't walk them
and now I'm home so I walk them for about an hour and half every
afternoon. I take them to the park where they chase birds and swim in
the lake.
This is my problem :
The less-dominant dog viscously barks at every other dog we walk
past; I have tri ed using a stick and giving her a tap when she does it,
and treating her with treats when she doesn't, using a choke chain, a
muzzle and a thing that sprays stuff in her mouth when she barks.
She won't stop! Does anyone know how I can stop her? ]
Also, the more-dominant dog seems to know this is WRONG, when the
other dog barks, she doesn't bark, but she nips at the other dog as
if telling her to cut it out, and then the barking one attacks the
more-dominant one and they fight on the leash... it is quite
disturbing to the people walking past.
And also the more-dominant one is okay around other
dogs... SOMETIMES... sometimes she completely ignores them, and yet
other times she will attack them, like yesterday. The less dominant
one I must keep on a leash if a person brings there dog to the park.
How do I stop them attacking other dogs? I have tried all the methods
I have used above for 10 months every afternoon. Is it just a pac
k-behaviour thing?
It can really be quite embarrassing when your dogs attack some old
lady's or little girl's dog.
They are good dogs, when at home or when there are no other dogs
around. Today there were hundreds of sparrows flying around the park
and they were chasing them and jumping up trying to catch them for
more than 90 minutes (They went straight to bed when I bought them
home!). Can anyone help me? Email me at my emails address,
ali...@wasp.net.au coz this list is tooo crowded.
Thanks,
Nevyn
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